scUM idiocy

[Alan]

that's all great....very delusional...here's a question....

if scum is all that....why are you our bitch??


truth hurts doesn't it....

 

[sandgk]

Not only is Henne better than Smith, but if Troy goes down OSU is SOL b/c Zwick sucks.

Or maybe not if you ask Oklahoma State ...

Why are you acting like saying WRs are about a push is such a stretch? Michigan is ALOT deeper in that department than tOSU and Holmes isn't exactly a world beater. 55 catches, 700 yards and 7 tds. Oh my god! Alert the press because he is unreal!

In citing those stats are making the mistake of focusing on style over substance.
Substantively, W/out Edwards your Wide Receiver Corps will not produce as many touchdowns because you will have lost your go-to guy and a 1st day/ round draft pick...
The style of play JT called at Ohio State was so close to the vest early in the year, and with the path to finding the best deployment of talent in the "2nd Quarter" of the 2004 schedule its no wonder the WR Corps reeled in fewer catches. Add in the running game difficulties and the ability to open up the passing game becomes more extreme. However, you look at the second half of that season and there is no mistaking what it foreshadows for the 2005 campaign.
And as for depth -- well others have stated this at length, but no, you are down in your WR Corps -- we bring back all we had -- plus one.

Ginn's freshman season he had pretty much the same exact stats as Breaston. Breaston was injured all last year and was really only healthy the final 3 games of the year. What if Ginn gets injured like Breaston did? Ginn isn't even that PROVEN as a WR- he gets all of his hype from returning punts.

Stats don't tell the story of what Ginn did on the field of play. Once a known commodity every team had to plan for him. That opened up lots of opportunities. Consider also, Ginn was effectively used only for 50% of the season. Plus he was learning an entirely new position and responsibility at the same time(CB converted to WR, remember). His numbers will improve, greatly -- and that's no hype, its a promise.
Plus, saying all of Ginn's publicity comes from returns alone is a) simply not true, and b) is not relevant considering Ginn's growth into the WR position.
Last but not least, how many times will you ignore the litany of names who belong to the Ohio State WR Corps? Its not just the publicized top of the line (Holmes, Ginn) its all the rest mentioned above.

Hell, go ahead, ignore 'em -- it'll be like last year but with the Buckeyes riding into town in Ann Arbor. Pitch and catch - Gonzo to open the scoring..

As for the coaching, I agree with you...I am not the biggest Carr fan.

Who is that fat fan, and do you have a picture of the worlds most obese mental midget :tongue2:

 

[H2Ho720]

Uh, then why is Holmes on so many pre-season first-team all-american lists? As for Ginn, he started somewhat slow at WR because he was a corner in HS. Once the light went on, he was the single-most dangerous WR in the country, with the possible exception of Chad Owens in Hawaii. Ginn had five catches in The Game, including a 42-yarder and a 26-yarder, not to mention his 82-yard punt TD.

See my above post. Holmes is better than Avant...period. Ginn is better than Breaston...period.

Yeah, those two guys were really more dangerous than Braylon Edwards <sarcasm>

Holmes is not better than Avant...period. Avant is a better route runner, has better size, and better hands.

and Ginn is not better than Breaston.....period.

Breaston's WR stats > Ginn's.

Ginn can only run two routes and his hands aren't as good as Breaston's.

 

[buckeyeboy]

I'll just leave it at 37-21 and 3 out of 4.

Well said. What we've got here in H2Ho720 is an scUM fan who is bitter because when the chips were on the table, we were the team that stepped up and won 3 of 4, even when we were underdogs in two of our wins. So he can waste his time "proving" that scUM is supposedly better on paper. I'll just wait until November 19. Maybe his heroes who are such great players will repeat their phenomenal performances against us (Hart 3.4 yards/carry, Breaston 4 catches for 17 yards, Avant 4 catches, Henne 50% completion percentage and 2 INTs).

 

[sandgk]

Yeah, those two guys were really more dangerous than Braylon Edwards <sarcasm>

Holmes is not better than Avant...period. Avant is a better route runner, has better size, and better hands.

and Ginn is not better than Breaston.....period.

Breaston's WR stats > Ginn's.

Ginn can only run two routes and his hands aren't as good as Breaston's.

And Gonzalez?
</sarcasm>

 

[H2Ho720]

And Gonzalez?

What about him? He made an excellent catch against Michigan.

Michigan is deeper at WR with Avant, Breaston, Dutch, Tabb, Arrington, Manningham, and Bass.

 

[osugrad21]

Your intentions are becoming obvious...here is more rope

 

[H2Ho720]

Ohio State fans really are the biggest homers....

Ginn and Holmes really are the best WR duo in the nation..

never mind that Steve Smith-Dwayne Jarrett thing....

Nevermind the fact that Holmes and Ginn's combined stats were 80 catches, 1,118 yards, and 9 touchdowns.

Really bodes well for "best duo" in the nation thing there....

As for Lyons and Dukes... no namers.

Manningham and Bass are both coming in and are LIGHT YEARS ahead of those guys in talent. Bass and Manningham are both top 50 players in the nation. Were Lyon or Dukes?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Yeah, those two guys were really more dangerous than Braylon Edwards <sarcasm>

Holmes is not better than Avant...period. Avant is a better route runner, has better size, and better hands.

and Ginn is not better than Breaston.....period.

Breaston's WR stats > Ginn's.

Ginn can only run two routes and his hands aren't as good as Breaston's.

Moron, are you even paying attention to what others post?

Ginn started slow because he wasn't a WR in high school, but has developed beyond what Breaston is. Breaston didn't show me shit in The Game...nada. As for Ginn's hands, did you even watch The Game? His 42-yarder and 26-yarder were excellent hand-catches at a full sprint.

As for Avant being better than Holmes...again, why is Holmes the one on first-team AA lists? Holmes made your all-world corner his bitch in The Game. If you think Homes doesn't run good routes, check out the below clips (right-click and save...don't view directly as they may not completely download):

Holmes burns Jackson

Holmes schools Jackson for TD

 

[H2Ho720]

LMAO? What 1st Team AA lists are Holmes on? Where are these "lists"

Holmes won't end up a 1st Team AA..I can name 5 WRs who will end up 1st team before Holmes does off the top of my head....

Derek Hagan- ASU
Dwayne Jarrett- USC
Calvin Johnson- Georgia Tech
Mike Hass- Oregen State
Greg Lee- Pitt

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

LMAO? What 1st Team AA lists are Holmes on? Where are these "lists"

Holmes won't end up a 1st Team AA..I can name 5 WRs who will end up 1st team before Holmes does off the top of my head....

Derek Hagan- ASU
Dwayne Jarrett- USC
Calvin Johnson- Georgia Tech
Mike Hass- Oregen State
Greg Lee- Pitt

Homo2Go: Holmes is AA on the Playboy AA team and nationalchamps.net AA team, and those are those ones I know of right now. And didn't you say that Avant is better than Holmes? So why isn't he one of the five WRs you listed as being AA before Holmes?

 

[H2Ho720]

Homo2Go: Holmes is AA on the Playboy AA team and nationalchamps.net AA team, and those are those ones I know of right now. And didn't you say that Avant is better than Holmes? So why isn't he one of the five WRs you listed as being AA before Holmes?

Because NEITHER of them are going to end up as AA's.

To be an AA you have to put up NUMBERS and neither of them are going to put up huge numbers.

Hagan, Jarrett, Johnson, Haas, and Lee all put up huge numbers last season and they will again.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Because NEITHER of them are going to end up as AA's.

To be an AA you have to put up NUMBERS and neither of them are going to put up huge numbers.

Hagan, Jarrett, Johnson, Haas, and Lee all put up huge numbers last season and they will again.

Hump2Hoe: If NUMBERS are so important, and Holmes lacked them last year (as you so astutely pointed out earlier), then why is he even on those lists?

 

[H2Ho720]

Hump2Hoe: If NUMBERS are so important, and Holmes lacked them last year (as you so astutely pointed out earlier), then why is he even on those lists?

Because of idiots such as yourself. Who knows?

Why was Cro Thorpe on ESPN's Pre-Season All-America team over Braylon Edwards?

Pre-Season All-America nod = worthless popularity contest

Get back to me when the season is OVER and if he is an All-American than we'll talk

 

[LloydSev]

So question me this...

Why is Ginn a Heisman favorite this year??

I mean if your WRs are better than him?