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Scoring the BCS Bowl Results For All 16 Years

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LordJeffBuck said:
Right now, Ohio State is elite. Michigan State and Wisconsin are performing at their peak, but probably don't have the "brand" to ever be elite. The main problem with the B1G is that high-profile programs like Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska are performing far beneath their potential. If Ohio State, Michigan State, and Wisconsin can maintain their present levels, and Michigan, Penn State, and Nebraska can get their acts together, then the B1G would have six perennial top-20 programs. At that point, it wouldn't really matter what the bottom feeders of the B1G did.

And one more thing - Illinois is a traditionally crappy team (since 1980, 3 conference titles and a .459 winning percentage, 81st amongst the FBS teams), but given their location (close to both Chicago and St. Louis) they are a sleeping giant. If Illinois could hire the right coach, they could easily become another Virginia Tech.
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Haven't we already seen that play out with Zook to some extent? Including the farcical Rose Bowl trip as an at-large the same year App. State beat scUM.
 
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kujirakira said:
Haven't we already seen that play out with Zook to some extent? Including the farcical Rose Bowl trip as an at-large the same year App. State beat scUM.
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In seven years at Illinois, Zook was 34-51 (.400 winning percentage); take out the fluky 2007 when Illinois was 9-4, and his record was 25-47 (.347 winning percentage). So Zook was actually far worse than average, despite his so-called recruiting prowess.
 
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kujirakira said:
That's kind of what I was getting at though... he had some success in recruiting as far as I remember; but it never translated to anything on the field.
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I said "so-called" because Zook's recruiting prowess was largely mythical. His reputation was based on signing a few high-profile (often troubled) recruits like Arrelious Benn, Juice Williams, Josh Brent, Martez Wilson, and Cordale Scott. However, in Zook's six recruiting classes (2006 to 2011), his average class ranking was #37 (according to Rivals), with his best class ranking only #20 in the nation. His problem was local recruiting - in six years, he signed only 15 top-ten recruits from the state of Illinois (that's 15 out of 60, or 25%). Zook was a complete fraud - a mediocre recruiter who signed a few star players and then wasted their talents on the field.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
In seven years at Illinois, Zook was 34-51 (.400 winning percentage); take out the fluky 2007 when Illinois was 9-4, and his record was 25-47 (.347 winning percentage). So Zook was actually far worse than average, despite his so-called recruiting prowess.
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My estimation is that what we really need to have is for Illinois to have a fluky year once in a while, while being genearlly good enough to look like they're right under those other schools you mention. I'm dubious about this sleeping giant idea. I've seen them with Simeon Rice, Kevin Hardy and Robert Holcombe all on the same team and still suck.... So, yeah, I dunno, I'm in serious I'll believe it when I see it on this.
 
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