Roy Williams....The Ultimate Classless Loser?

[Bucklion]

It's all about winning games. You want none of your stars to be injured, and if the walk-ons care about the overall team record, they'd be proud to play out the end of the game to protect their stars and the rest of the season. We're talking the possibility of ankle sprains and bruises, not death.

What a lot of falsely self-righteous hoohah is being spouted here. If this same scenario were to play out at, say, Northwestern against the Buckeyes, you better believe I'd want the end of our bench to be on the court at the end of the game.

By the way, I'm no Tarhole fan. But this is straining at gnats.

Every coach in America would empty the bench...but you are actually saying you would want the rest of the team to walk out of the arena before the game was over? Sorry, that's not falsely self-rightoeus hoohah, Roy Williams is a bitch for leaving the court before the game was over. At the very LEAST he should have kept the entire coaching staff out there with the players that finished the game. They wear the same [censored]ing uniform, they put the same effort in during practice, they deserve the same treatment from the coaching staff as everyone else.

Call me whatever you want, but Roy Williams is a first class bitch for abandoning his players. Even the linked article trying to explain it away says as much.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Every coach in America would empty the bench...but you are actually saying you would want the rest of the team to walk out of the arena before the game was over? Sorry, that's not falsely self-rightoeus hoohah, Roy Williams is a bitch for leaving the court before the game was over. At the very LEAST he should have kept the entire coaching staff out there with the players that finished the game. They wear the same [censored]ing uniform, they put the same effort in during practice, they deserve the same treatment from the coaching staff as everyone else.

Call me whatever you want, but Roy Williams is a first class bitch for abandoning his players. Even the linked article trying to explain it away says as much.

bingo. to pull starters and meaningful players is a "well... duh" move. to pull starters and meaningful players and then leave the walk-ons more or less stranded is shameful. it was a classless move by roy to leave his team. it's a defenseless position to take roy's side here.

 

[WhoDeyForever]

i know im late...this is the first time i am seeing this..whatever happened to sportsmanship?

Awful.

I know if I'm one of those walk-ons, I'm taking my ass down the road to Duke.

 

[Wells4Heisman]

Leaving your walk-ons out there alone isn't exactly the message I would want to send out as a coach.

 

[darbypitcher22]

I guess it looks really bad, but after reading the story and seeing how they had issues when UNLV beat them, I can understand why he did it. It does suck to be one of those walkons having to fight your way through that mess after everyone else has left, but when you've already had members of your staff injured in something like that, I can understand, especially if it was Hamilton's suggestion

 

[Oh8ch]

I have no problem with Williams sending his players and assistants off early. That is his protecting his charges from fan behavior that is the greater issue here. And in this case it was done with the agreement if not encouragement of the FSU coach.

However, I can't condone his personally leaving any players behind whose safety is his responsibility. He should have stayed as a symbolic gesture if nothing else. Famous or not those UNC jerseys made them targets. Roy could have done little, but he is the captain of that ship.

All that said, the larger issue is fan behavior - not Roy Williams judgement.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I have no problem with Williams sending his players and assistants off early. That is his protecting his charges from fan behavior that is the greater issue here. And in this case it was done with the agreement if not encouragement of the FSU coach.

However, I can't condone his personally leaving any players behind whose safety is his responsibility. He should have stayed as a symbolic gesture if nothing else. Famous or not those UNC jerseys made them targets. Roy could have done little, but he is the captain of that ship.

All that said, the larger issue is fan behavior - not Roy Williams judgement.

I didn't see this thing go down but that's an important distinction...did he stay out on the floor with the walkons or did he hike his ass in the locker room as well?

 

[OHSportsFan]

I didn't see this thing go down but that's an important distinction...did he stay out on the floor with the walkons or did he hike his ass in the locker room as well?

Every single coach went to the locker room. The remaining players were alone to play out the final 14 seconds. It was the 5 and then a completely empty UNC sideline.

 

[y0yoyoin]

i hope now that UNC has a game that ends exactly the way the Indiana vs Kentucky game did....and i want Roy and all the 5 starters to get trampled to death

 

[Jaxbuck]

Every single coach went to the locker room. The remaining players were alone to play out the final 14 seconds. It was the 5 and then a completely empty UNC sideline.

Ok then that's some bush league shit.

Starters and assistants you guys go in, the walkons and I are going to stay out here and take one for the team....that I can understand.

You kids stay out here in harms way while I hitch up my skirt and run for the locker room.....you don't need to be in a leadership position in fact you are, as they say, bitch made.

If my kid is one of those walkons Roy Williams and I are going to fight. The BOT, President and AD should be questioned about how a University employee in a position directly responsible for students could act in such a manner.

Were there any stories of teachers at Columbine shoving retarded kids into the hall to distract the shooters and running the other way? Probably not since Roy Williams wasn't a teacher there.

 

[darbypitcher22]

Were there any stories of teachers at Columbine shoving retarded kids into the hall to distract the shooters and running the other way? Probably not since Roy Williams wasn't a teacher there.

A little over the top don't you think?

 

[colobuck79]

I think Jax's comparison is fair. Williams thought there was a risk to players remaining on the floor. He chose which players would be submitted to the risk and would therefore be sacrificed. He chose which players were expendable based on their basketball playing abilities. And worst of all, in an unbelievably cowardly show, he left the floor himself.

 

[OHSportsFan]

And worst of all, in an unbelievably cowardly show, he left the floor himself.

If a coach wants to participate in an early exit, as was apparent by Roy once his team got down big, earn it like a real man- get tossed in an expletive-laced rant while slamming a water bottle at the refs.



At least, that's what my dad did when he coached. :p

 

[MaxBuck]

I think Jax's comparison is fair. Williams thought there was a risk to players remaining on the floor. He chose which players would be submitted to the risk and would therefore be sacrificed. He chose which players were expendable based on their basketball playing abilities. And worst of all, in an unbelievably cowardly show, he left the floor himself.

I see no problem leaving the more expendable players on the court - so long as the head coach remains there. Roy had no business bolting. That, I agree with.

 

[Zurp]

As far as how the game was going, was anyone taking cheap shots or doing anything dirty? If so, definitely take your big-name players and put them in the locker room. Especially the ones who may want to start fights or who might be targets from the opposing team's players who want to start fights. But if it was clean, and you're still worried about the fans either purposely or accidentally injuring the players, at least have an exit strategy in place for the kids still on the court. The one announcer said something like, "the five guys still out there - they don't know if they're also supposed to go to the locker room." If you're truly worried about the fans injuring your players, tell your players to inbound the ball, pass it way down court to an FSU player, and get in the locker room.

I don't mind the head coach sending his players in the locker room. But just leaving 5 guys - ANY 5 guys - out there, while going into the locker room himself, is sending a message to, and about, those 5 guys.