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Rod Gilmore, More ESPN Lovin'

Discussion in 'ESPN's 04-05 war against tOSU and Tressel' started by Dryden, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    Another article, posted Wednesday on ESPN Insider

  2. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Just another attempt to keep the story in the spotlight....nothing new, just opinion
  3. Clarity

    Clarity Will Bryant Staff Member

    I'd suggest that anyone feeding info (no matter how benign) to ESPN about any of this isn't a booster at all.
  4. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    That guy's actually a lawyer that played football at Stanford. And he's quoting a friend (who doesn't want his named revealed) repeating a story from a guy who supposedly played 50 years ago. How old is that story, and maybe the guy was joking when he first told it.

    You'd think he'd understand the concept of 'hearsay evidence'. But I guess that doesn't matter in the court of public opinion.

    And he throws that article together as part of the 'fair and balanced' assault.

    Maybe the NCAA will investigate tOSU's jobs in the 1950's now.
    I wonder if our 1954 or 1957 titles are in jeopardy?? What a joke.
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2004
  5. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    is this the same fuckwad who wont admit that stanford lost the "band is on the field" game?
  6. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    Yep that is him, I remember him bitching about that game and how the guy was was pitiful.
  7. Airspace

    Airspace Newbie

    The part of Ohio State having phatom jobs in the 50's is true. Ohio State was placed on probation for some players being paid for work not being done. Howard 'Hopalong' Cassady was paid to turn on the sprinklers at the Ohio Union. Ohio State paid for that violation. Woody was partially responsible for the players being given cash. What is not said (was told in the WOSU video on Woody) that black players in the 50's were given less money as their stipend vs the white players. Woody believed that was wrong and did not give a damm and ensured that they were treated equally (gave out of his own pocket).

    To equate what happened in the 50's to today is plain wrong. I remember when Doug Donley (late 70's) was being paid to run a bulldozer in eastern ohio on rehabing strip mined land. I also remember the stories of OSU football players in the 60's painting Galbreath's fence around his property on the westside. They were being paid around $5 an hour from what I was told. Ohio State players always got good summer jobs but the fact is they had to work. It was not show up and get paid but actually peform services for pay. This was all because of what happened in the 50's.
  8. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    in light of bspn's fantastic research, please remove the following years from your sig:

    1949, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1961, 2002

    49 and 61 count as years in the 50's. players obviously overlapped those years.
  9. HineyBuck

    HineyBuck Old newb

    Back in the 70s I worked at a Roadway terminal with Doug Plank and Champ Henson. We worked our asses off. When we got off work, I would go smoke dope. They would go work out.
  10. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member


    holy shit its mr. such and such!
  11. HineyBuck

    HineyBuck Old newb

    I am Mr. Such & Such. After the scUM victory I will be loaded with vCash. Send the vBoys around to see me.

    Seriously, Mr Such & Such is evil incarnate. The fact that ESPN is not going after him reveals this whole story as a sham to paint Tressel black. Mr Such & Such hates Coach Tressel and his integrity. Mr Such & Such hates Coach Tressel because he's cut off his access to the players. Mr Such & Such thinks the OSU football program belongs to him. Mr Such & Such will bring Coach Tressel down if he can. If he is not "outed" now, he will rear his ugly head again.

    ESPN--bring us Mr Such & Such
  12. NoVABuck

    NoVABuck Newbie

    The comment about the player from 50 years ago aside, this is the most fair and balanced article that has come from ESPN on this issue. He never says he believes the allegations. He is just taking the opportunity to point out that academic fraud is even worse than the improper benefits for athletes. I don't disagree with him at all on that point.

    He is the first to make the point that the graduation rate for the football team under Tressel has increased from an unbelievable 15% to 53%. Also, I'm sure not many people know that Tressel influenced Katz to go back to school to finish up his degree. I actually appreciate that he took the time to report those things.

    The only agenda Gilmore seems to have in this article is to encourage the university to look at how it educates the athletes and see how they can improve, because there is always room for improvement. The same is true at every school in the country.
  13. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    At least that didn't appear to be as bitter as other espn articles. It appeared to be more of a knock on cfb.


    When I was at school, we picked our own classes. How can tOSU help it if some turds would rather take cake classes than take major-related classes that will truly help them ? Does steered imply that the advisor held a gun to their head and made them sign up for that course ? Thats such b.s.

    At least he noted the increase in the grad rate with JT as opposed to JC.
  14. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    To Paraphrase Rod G:

    Lost in all these reports is the fact that Clarett graduated early from high school. This means that when he wants to do so Clarett can study.

    The fact that he chose cake courses at tOSU shows only that Clarett was willing to do less while demanding more for himself.
  15. coxew

    coxew Newbie

    That light story is funny because I work with a Purdue alum from back in the days when Griese played. He told me the exact same thing happened there. He had a friend on PU's football team that got paid to turn the lights on every day. He also drove the team bus that took them to and from their practice fields to locker rooms every day and said he'd never seen so many $100 bills flying around.

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