Rich Rodriguez (official thread of last laughs)

[Oh8ch]

Spin anyone?

Tressel, RRod, Pete Carroll... all the big time coaches really are similar in many respects. When you like that or not is not keeping them away from being hired and supported by the universities who know that there is money that has to be generated to support the other athletic programs at the schools.

It's interesting that LC, Jim Brandstatter and other UM alumni don't share his view. Since they are closer to the program, I prefer to believe them.

he (the author) didn't do his homework. he wanted to write a ridiculous and slanted piece of garbage. he has succeeded.

Rosenberg ripping on UM is just same old, same old. It's not just him, it's pretty much all michigan papers.

In summary - there is nothing wrong with the Michigan football program, but there is a problem with objectivity at virtually every newspaper in the state of Michigan.

 

[Dryden]

"I assure you, there is absolutely nothing wrong within the Michigan football program, nor are there any conflicts at the highest levels of our University's administration. Our new coach is very, very popular and will be a great success!"

 

[Buckeye86]

Out of all the spin and denial, I think this line is the most damaging.

But those who have attended his practices say Rodriguez?s staff uses some of the foulest, most degrading language imaginable. I know coaches curse, and I?m no prude, but this goes way beyond a few dirty words. He belittles his players.

Either DickRod and his coaches curse worse than a sailor, or they don't, there is no gray area here, this is not an opinion, this is a fact, and if it wasn't it would be easy enough to deny, and no one is denying.

Everything else aside, and there is a whole lot of shit to put to the side, this alone should have the Michigan faithful up in arms in my opinion. This alone signals that Michigan football is not what it used to be, this alone signals that DickRod is taking a proud program with over a hundred years of history into the toilet without even playing a single game.

RichRod could win every game he coaches at Michigan (which he won't) and the asshole will still dig Michigan into a hole that will take a long time for them to dig out of when it comes to class, integrity, and doing things the right way, things that Michigan used to pride itself on (to a fault).

I don't think "still and ass" quite covers it but anymore, but my god, what an ass.

 

[Dryden]

RichRod could win every game he coaches at Michigan (which he won't) and the asshole will still dig Michigan into a hole that will take a long time for them to dig out of when it comes to class, integrity, and doing things the right way, things that Michigan used to pride itself on (to a fault).

Which is the beauty of it. Ws and Ls won't be so important to the U-M alum when they see the respect that Coach Dantonio brings to the MSU program over the next three to four years. It won't be immediate, and it may not always be reflected on the scoreboard or in the Big 10 standings, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, ever has or ever will write the kind of articles about Mark Dantonio as they do about Rich Rodriguez.

That will ultimately drive them bat shit crazy. They sold their souls for the flavor of the month in a panic hire, and they've already been beaten senseless by the consequences of this in just six short months; and R-Rod hasn't even coached a game yet.

 

[Steve19]

I agree with Dryden. TSUN has enjoyed respect as a storied program. No matter how many games he wins, RR is likely to diminish that respect through his behavior. In time, especially with more of a class act in Lansing, this is gonna hurt recruiting.

If Tressel can hang the first three on RR, this is gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

...I sense such an overwhelming confidence in beating scUM this year - for so many, many dead on valid reasons - that y'all are in danger of not taking the little weasel seriously.

That's a luxury we, as fans, have. I assure you, Jim Tressel will never take scUM lightly. He's heard the 1969 parallels and has heard the Woody-Bo, Tressel-DickRod comparisons. Hell, it was one of the centerpoints of his famous halftime speech after his hire.

I highly doubt Tressel will EVER take the team up north lightly, regardless of what the fans think.

I have to say, Gator', that I am surprised that you only got two responses.

I would have thought you've been here long enough to know better.

I agree that there are many reasons for people to be confident, and that it is reflected in the general mood of this board.

But IMHO the only upshot of this, practically, will be Illinois' undoing. The fact that Michigan will, in all likelihood, not be a looming battle of Big Ten unbeatens; combined with the revenge factor (a very big deal during the Tressel years), will result in a demolition of the Illini.

After that, Michigan Week under coach Tressel will still bloody well be Michigan Week. The seniors who have come close and missed two years in a row will be champing at the bit. They will trot out onto the field, hand a rose to their mother and hear their name chanted by 105,000 fans. When that ball is kicked, the team, the coaches, the band, the fans and Jim Tressel's dogs will be going ape-shit. Our desire to pound them into the dirt will be palpable. The final appearance in the Horseshoe of Laurinaitis, Freeman, Boone, Jenkins and probably Beanie (and many others) will have everyone breathing fire on every single play.

Confident? Hell yeah we're confident. And not just of a victory.

This will be a brutal mauling, and I can already smell the blood.

Go Bucks. Beat Michigan. Spank RR. Send him home crying.

 

[Dryden]

In regards to Gators post, I think the two outstanding things working against the suggestion that we're in any danger of not taking the weasel(s) seriously and getting beat are:

1. None of us have to actually play in the game, so it's quite alright if we don't take them seriously until they take the field with their patchwork O-Line of scrubs, spread/read-option offense run by a pro-style QB with no collegiate passing attempts, freshman RBs who will start by default since the only legitimate returning RB threat just blew an Academic All-American's GPA on a sobriety test, and their defense lead by Morgan Trent - take all of that, - and actually win more football games than they lose.

2. R-Rod has NO CLUE what he is walking into in that last game of the season. He has never participated in 'The Game,' and he has never had to coach in the 'Shoe. Coaching U-M in the Horseshoe against one of the most talent-laden teams in OSU's history is a bit different than taking WVU on the road to Marshall and Pittsburgh.

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

If Tressel can hang the first three on RR,

If Tressel can hang the first three on RR, Tressel will not get a chance to hang a fourth. RR will be out of there, no matter how much it will cost the school up north.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Show of hands - how many people thought WVU had no shot in this lawsuit when it was first filed.

I for one had the feeling of watching a "Scorned Woman" going after everything she could get. I was pretty confident that public sentiment would also (finally) weigh too heavily on tsun to continue ignoring.

They've done some pretty good damage here. It will all go away with wins, but until said time... the damage remains.

 

[martinss01]

Understand this: If we lose to you guys, we don't hear about it anywhere near as much as if we lose to MSU. Beating OSU is sweeter than beating MSU. Losing to MSU is worse than losing to OSU.

2001 - um (24) vrs msu (26)
2002 - um (49) vrs msu (3)
2003 - um (27) vrs msu (20)
2004 - um (45) vrs msu (37)
2005 - um (34) vrs msu (31)
2006 - um (31) vrs msu (13)
2007 - um (28) vrs msu (24)

so VLoyd carr was fired because he lost to msu back in 01? interesting...

It is a freaking P.R. disaster for RichRod and UM.

The only thing I fear is, I sense such an overwhelming confidence in beating scUM this year - for so many, many dead on valid reasons - that y'all are in danger of not taking the little weasel seriously.

with the success we have had over the last few years that is a very valid concern. if we don't show up ready to play we will loose. there is no question in my mind. i don't believe this will happen however. regardless of what is happening in scum town, our guys will be ready to play. if we had won one of the last 2 nc games i might feel a little bit differently.

 

[generaladm]

If we do lose to UM this year (history tells us that stranger things have happened), it won't be because of anyone at OSU taking them lightly. This year especially, the goal for the season is to make it to the NC game. It is conceivable that we could lose a game and still get there, but that loss cannot come in the last game of the regular season. Add in the motivation of the chance to become the first Buckeyes team in history to win 5 in a row against the Wolverines, and I think they will be as motivated as ever. Tressel knows that the rivalry is one of the cornerstones of OSU tradition. UM fans better hope that DickRod doesn't pull a Cooper and try to downplay it. A win in Columbus this season would give RR a free pass for all the bad press he has gotten. Fortunately for us, I don't think he'll have the team to do it. Once RR gets the players to fit his system, The Game could get a lot more interesting. But I think JT has alredy begun preparations. The 09 recruiting class is loaded with speedy talent. While this is becoming a trend in all of college football, it is a necessity to defend the spread option offense. OSU coaches have already been in contact with the USF defensive coaches who had success against RR's Mountaineers. I'll bet that Tressel's game tape collection has added a ton of WVU games in the last 6 months.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

... I'll bet that Tressel's game tape collection has added a ton of WVU games in the last 6 months.

Something that WVU was more than happy to provide, to be sure.

 

[generaladm]

Something that WVU was more than happy to provide, to be sure.

Assuming that DickRod didn't shred them. :tongue2:

 

[Steve19]

In regards to Gators post, I think the two outstanding things working against the suggestion that we're in any danger of not taking the weasel(s) seriously and getting beat are:

1. None of us have to actually play in the game, so it's quite alright if we don't take them seriously until they take the field with their patchwork O-Line of scrubs, spread/read-option offense run by a pro-style QB with no collegiate passing attempts, freshman RBs who will start by default since the only legitimate returning RB threat just blew an Academic All-American's GPA on a sobriety test, and their defense lead by Morgan Trent - take all of that, - and actually win more football games than they lose.

2. R-Rod has NO CLUE what he is walking into in that last game of the season. He has never participated in 'The Game,' and he has never had to coach in the 'Shoe. Coaching U-M in the Horseshoe against one of the most talent-laden teams in OSU's history is a bit different than taking WVU on the road to Marshall and Pittsburgh.

Wait a minute. Somebody told me that Clarity said the mods got to play in the fourth quarter if we're up by 28. Is that not true? I've been in the weight room for nothing?

 

[Gatorubet]

Wait a minute. Somebody told me that Clarity said the mods got to play in the fourth quarter if we're up by 28. Is that not true? I've been in the weight room for nothing?

Only if you're related to a former player.