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Ref caught on mic "stalling" game for tv

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    bucknut11;2290265; said:
    The guy who stands on the 20 yard line in the Shoe holding up play for BTN/ESPN might be the most hated man in the stadium some days.

    Those timeouts are "built-in"...the refs already know when the "TV timeouts" are, and they even announce it when they call them. No even the same solar system as a ref deliberately delaying a game just so additional commercials can be aired.
     
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    MililaniBuckeye;2290270; said:
    Those timeouts are "built-in"...the refs already know when the "TV timeouts" are, and they even announce it when they call them. No even the same solar system as a ref deliberately delaying a game just so additional commercials can be aired.
    I understand they're built in by the networks, but there are times when the teams are on the field, ball is ready to be set, and "additional commercials" are being aired as the game is being delayed.. I think that's more of his point?
     
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    Bleed S & G;2290301; said:
    I understand they're built in by the networks, but there are times when the teams are on the field, ball is ready to be set, and "additional commercials" are being aired as the game is being delayed.. I think that's more of his point?

    There's a difference between "stalling" the game so that the television broadcast could air more commercials and simply holding up the teams until the end of a normal scheduled TV timeout. The ESPN/ABC college football TV timeout is usually (well, almost always) two minutes long...I know this because I fast forward through them when watching my recorded OSU games and I hit my DVR's 30-second skip function four times and it's near perfect.

    The question is was the ref only making the teams wait until the scheduled batch of commercials was done, or was he indeed "stalling" (i.e., making extra time) for additional commercials.
     
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    MililaniBuckeye;2290309; said:
    There's a difference between "stalling" the game so that the television broadcast could air more commercials and simply holding up the teams until the end of a normal scheduled TV timeout. The ESPN/ABC college football TV timeout is usually (well, almost always) two minutes long...I know this because I fast forward through them when watching my recorded OSU games and I hit my DVR's 30-second skip function four times and it's near perfect.

    The question is was the ref only making the teams wait until the scheduled batch of commercials was done, or was he indeed "stalling" (i.e., making extra time) for additional commercials.

    Can ou explain then why I've seen NFL games recently where they score a TD, then TV timeout, XP, then TV timeout, kickoff, then TV timeout, and then offense?
     
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    Bleed S & G;2290301; said:
    I understand they're built in by the networks, but there are times when the teams are on the field, ball is ready to be set, and "additional commercials" are being aired as the game is being delayed.. I think that's more of his point?

    Agreed. The NBA is an absolute joke, but this is the least of its problems. People are blowing this way out of proportion in relation to the league's other issues.
     
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    MililaniBuckeye;2290309; said:
    There's a difference between "stalling" the game so that the television broadcast could air more commercials and simply holding up the teams until the end of a normal scheduled TV timeout.
    I really don't see this as being the case. TV needs a certain number of commercials to pay for the "free" broadcast of a game, whether it's college football or NBA. Big deal being made over not much.

    I'm still not clear on why people say the NBA is a "big joke." It's doing far better financially and on the playing surface than any other pro sport except the NFL. As my recent experience in Brooklyn showed me, it's a whole lot more entertaining in person than on the screen - much like the NHL in that regard. But its appeal is much broader than the NHL.
     
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    MililaniBuckeye;2290309; said:
    There's a difference between "stalling" the game so that the television broadcast could air more commercials and simply holding up the teams until the end of a normal scheduled TV timeout. The ESPN/ABC college football TV timeout is usually (well, almost always) two minutes long...I know this because I fast forward through them when watching my recorded OSU games and I hit my DVR's 30-second skip function four times and it's near perfect.

    The question is was the ref only making the teams wait until the scheduled batch of commercials was done, or was he indeed "stalling" (i.e., making extra time) for additional commercials.



    I think it was just the opposite here. They called a 20, so tv went to a 20 second commercial break. After they went to the 20, the ref realized they already used their 20 and had to make it a full timeout. The tv broadcast came back after the 20 and that's why they were stalling time on the court, since tv was not using one of their full time out allotments.
     
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    MaxBuck;2290341; said:
    I really don't see this as being the case. TV needs a certain number of commercials to pay for the "free" broadcast of a game, whether it's college football or NBA. Big deal being made over not much.

    Agreed.

    I'm still not clear on why people say the NBA is a "big joke." It's doing far better financially and on the playing surface than any other pro sport except the NFL. As my recent experience in Brooklyn showed me, it's a whole lot more entertaining in person than on the screen - much like the NHL in that regard. But its appeal is much broader than the NHL.
    To me, the NBA has become a joke of a product for many reasons--an overbearing commissioner who sees fit to impose his will however he'd like, such as by imposing a huge fine for a coach having the audacity to rest his players when he thought it best for the long-term prospects of his team, star players forming superteams and flocking to a few destination cities and thereby making the rest of the league a wasteland of teams with no shot to win anything, questionable officiating at key moments calling into question the integrity of the game, etc.

    I get that these things are rather subjective, but it's caused me to not watch much NBA at all in the past few years, and I haven't bought a ticket to an NBA game in over 10.
     
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    buckeyesin07;2290367; said:
    Agreed.

    To me, the NBA has become a joke of a product for many reasons--an overbearing commissioner who sees fit to impose his will however he'd like, such as by imposing a huge fine for a coach having the audacity to rest his players when he thought it best for the long-term prospects of his team, star players forming superteams and flocking to a few destination cities and thereby making the rest of the league a wasteland of teams with no shot to win anything, questionable officiating at key moments calling into question the integrity of the game, etc.

    I get that these things are rather subjective, but it's caused me to not watch much NBA at all in the past few years, and I haven't bought a ticket to an NBA game in over 10.

    With the exception of players colluding to form teams, I think the NFL shares all of those problems.
     
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    matcar;2290402; said:
    With the exception of players colluding to form teams, I think the NFL shares all of those problems.

    I don't think the officiating is as suspect in the NFL as it is in the NBA but, as I originally said, I realize that's a subjective statement.

    The importance of the players colluding to form teams can't be overstated, in my opinion. Fans of over half the teams in the NBA realize (or should realize) that their teams will likely have no shot at winning the title. Contrast that with the NFL, where small market teams win the Super Bowl with regularity (Green Bay and Pittsburgh are recent examples). It's a big deal, I think, for the health of a league when all of its teams could potentially field a winner.
     
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