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Reds Tidbits (2006 Season)

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crazybuckfan40 said:
I kind of liked Cruz as the full time PH and the coaches didnt need to worry about getting him the game much b/c that was his role.

Any idea on this guy Jax?
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I'm indifferent.

At this point in his career I don't know what he brings that Cruz doesn't but then again Cruz isn't exactly an All Star. In fact he's the definition of replacement level.

Net-net, I'm more excited about the demotion of Naehring than the player moves. All the Scott Hateberg's in the world aren't going to fix whats wrong with this ship. Add him to Vanderwal, Randa, Womack and Aurilia under the whoop-dee-fucking-doo heading in my book.

IMO the Reds have to trade some or all of the current ML level offensive pieces they have to restock the minors and come back with a balanced product in a few years. The organizational pitching depth is just that horrendous.
 
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Lifelong Reds fan, first post in this forum. JaxBuck is absolutely correct. Some of the offensive pieces must be traded in order to turn this franchise around. Young pitching talent is something that is obviously must be acquired as it doesn't appear as it is coming up through the system. IMO, Dunn, Kearns, or Griff must be traded before next Trading Deadline. Unfortunately, as great of a power hitter he is Dunn will command the most on the market and would be a high contract if resigned here. If they do trade someone, PLEASE get something in return.

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I could take Milton yard.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'm indifferent.

At this point in his career I don't know what he brings that Cruz doesn't but then again Cruz isn't exactly an All Star. In fact he's the definition of replacement level.

Net-net, I'm more excited about the demotion of Naehring than the player moves. All the Scott Hateberg's in the world aren't going to fix whats wrong with this ship. Add him to Vanderwal, Randa, Womack and Aurilia under the whoop-dee-fucking-doo heading in my book.

IMO the Reds have to trade some or all of the current ML level offensive pieces they have to restock the minors and come back with a balanced product in a few years. The organizational pitching depth is just that horrendous.
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Well I liked Randa, but I feel the same way on the rest of them.
 
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crazybuckfan40 said:
Well I liked Randa, but I feel the same way on the rest of them.
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I liked Randa as well, hell of a guy, had his career half season for us then netted us 2 decent pitching prospects. Cant ask for much more than that.

I just never got excited about him or anyone like him because they are complementary pieces, not pieces that make a significant difference.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I liked Randa as well, hell of a guy, had his career half season for us then netted us 2 decent pitching prospects. Cant ask for much more than that.

I just never got excited about him or anyone like him because they are complementary pieces, not pieces that make a significant difference.
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It would of been nice for a decent team that was in contention, but we were not.
 
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CINCINNATI -- Scott Hatteberg agreed to a one-year, $750,000 contract Sunday with Cincinnati, giving the Reds more flexibility at first base.
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Hatteberg can make an additional $250,000 in performance bonuses, based upon plate appearances.
The Reds traded first baseman Sean Casey to Pittsburgh for left-handed starter Dave Williams in the offseason. They plan to move left fielder Adam Dunn to first base, opening the way for outfielders Austin Kearns and Wily Mo Pena to play alongside center fielder Ken Griffey Jr.
Wayne Krivsky was interested in Hatteberg even before he was hired as the Reds' general manager last Wednesday.
"We wanted to add to our depth," Krivsky said by phone. "This guy's a true professional, somebody I've had my eye on in the offseason here in the event I did get this job. The playing time will take care of itself."
Krivsky also made several more moves to rearrange the front office, bringing in two executives and changing the responsibilities of two others.
The Reds hired Bob Miller from the Arizona Diamondbacks as director of baseball administration. They also hired Scott Nethery from the New York Mets as a special assistant for player personnel.
International scouting director Johnny Almaraz, one of eight candidates who interviewed for the general manager's job, had his role changed to director of player development and international operations.
Tim Nehring, who was director of player development, replaced Bob Miscik as minor league field coordinator.
Miller was with Arizona for the last seven years, as director of baseball operations and as assistant general manager. Nethery was with Atlanta for 13 years, and was a special assistant with the Mets last season.
"Bob is a real experienced guy in terms of administration and rules, and has significant experience in player development," Krivsky said. "He's worn three or four different hats.
"In covering the National League (for the Twins) the last 11 years, I'd see Scott a lot on the road. We've gotten to be very good friends, and I respect his judgment."
Last week, Krivsky fired major league operations director Brad Kullman, his first move in reshaping the front office.
AP NEWS
The Associated Press News Service
 
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They are saying that this is just a bench move, but I can't help but think that this further frees the front office to deal one of the outfielders and move Dunn back out there. Because this guy's a lefty like Dunn so he won't bring anything different to the table and can't play anywhere but first base (except for the emergency third catcher role).
 
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For those familiar with PECOTA here is what they say for 2006 in Reds land.

For those not familiar its a complex mathmatical thing but they pretty much give a range of performance and use the weighted mean as their "prediction". Bottom line is barring major unseen injuries its pretty reliable.

I'll keep the stats I use basic to just give you an idea, if anyone wants more details let me know.

Pitching
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Aaron Harang is really a good #3 starter by most MLB standards but he looks like Cy Young with this pack of retards.

Hitting (good OPS is 800 or better)

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Even though LaRue and Lopez project sub .800 thats pretty damn good for a catcher and a young SS. If Ed E puts up those numbers at his age I'm back flipping.


So as you can see, its same shit different day in Cinci.

1. Very good to great offense.

2. Bad defense which gives away some of those 900+ runs scored.

3. Shit-ass-miserable-fuck-all pitching which simply cannot be overcome.

4. The minors are as barren as a Chernobyl corn field. The best pitching prospect we have is Homer Bailey who is at least 3 years away and projects as a #2 or #3 starter at best.

So the only way to get healthy is trade current valuable offensive players for near ML ready minor leaguers or super prospects. The time in between when we still have these pitchers but without the offense could be as bad, if not worse, than 1982. Oh fuckin goodee.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
For those familiar with PECOTA here is what they say for 2006 in Reds land.

For those not familiar its a complex mathmatical thing but they pretty much give a range of performance and use the weighted mean as their "prediction". Bottom line is barring major unseen injuries its pretty reliable.

I'll keep the stats I use basic to just give you an idea, if anyone wants more details let me know.

Pitching
[pre]<TABLE style="WIDTH: 232pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=309 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 88pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4278" width=117><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" span=3 width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 88pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=117 height=17>Player</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>W/L</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>ERA</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>IP</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Dave F. Williams</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">8--10</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.93</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>151</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Eric F. Milton</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">10--11</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.92</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>180</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Brandon F. Claussen</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">10--10</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.7</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>171</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Aaron Harang</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">12--11</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.21</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>199</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Paul F. Wilson</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">6--9</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>5.39</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>125</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[/pre]
Aaron Harang is really a good #3 starter by most MLB standards but he looks like Cy Young with this pack of retards.

Hitting (good OPS is 800 or better)

[pre]<TABLE style="WIDTH: 232pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=309 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 88pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4278" width=117><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" span=3 width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 88pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=117 height=17>Player</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>HR</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>RBI</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>OPS</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Adam Dunn</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>41</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>103</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>961</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Edwin Encarnacion</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>22</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>71</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>829</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Griffey Jr</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>30</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>86</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>918</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Austin Kearns</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>21</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>65</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>877</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Jason LaRue</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>12</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>40</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>758</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Felipe Lopez</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>15</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>57</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>762</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Willie Mo Pena</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>25</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>63</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>903</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[/pre]
Even though LaRue and Lopez project sub .800 thats pretty damn good for a catcher and a young SS. If Ed E puts up those numbers at his age I'm back flipping.


So as you can see, its same shit different day in Cinci.

1. Very good to great offense.

2. Bad defense which gives away some of those 900+ runs scored.

3. Shit-ass-miserable-fuck-all pitching which simply cannot be overcome.

4. The minors are as barren as a Chernobyl corn field. The best pitching prospect we have is Homer Bailey who is at least 3 years away and projects as a #2 or #3 starter at best.

So the only way to get healthy is trade current valuable offensive players for near ML ready minor leaguers or super prospects. The time in between when we still have these pitchers but without the offense could be as bad, if not worse, than 1982. Oh fuckin goodee.
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So what your telling me is that the Reds will win the pennant.:wink2:
 
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CINCINNATI -- Adam Dunn agreed to a two-year, $18.5 million deal Tuesday, three days before he and the Cincinnati Reds were scheduled for an arbitration hearing.

<!--------------------------START PLAYER CARD------------------><TABLE class=tableheadFixWidth cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=200 align=right><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD class=whitelink colSpan=2>http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6763</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=6763</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=190 bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead align=middle><TD align=middle colSpan=6>2005 SEASON STATISTICS</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD style="BACKGROUND: #bcbcb4" width="17%">GM</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #bcbcb4" width="17%">HR</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #bcbcb4" width="17%">RBI</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #bcbcb4" width="17%">R</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #bcbcb4" width="17%">OBP</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #bcbcb4" width="17%">AVG</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD style="BACKGROUND: #999999">160</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #999999">40</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #999999">101</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #999999">107</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #999999">.387</TD><TD style="BACKGROUND: #999999">.247</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!---------------------INLINE MINI-PLAYER CARD ENDS HERE--------------------->
Dunn got salaries of $7.5 million for this season and $10.5 million for 2007. The club has an option for a $13 million salary in 2008, which it can buy out for $500,000.

The outfielder/first baseman was the Reds' last player left in arbitration. He had asked for the second-biggest salary increase among the 44 major leaguers who exchanged arbitration figures with teams. Dunn sought $8.95 million in arbitration, and the club offered $7.1 million.

"This is a happy day for the Reds," general manager Wayne Krivsky said by phone. "I haven't talked to Adam, but I hope he feels as good about it as we do. Hopefully is sends a nice message that he's appreciated and we're looking for big things from him."

Dunn's arbitration case was one of Krivsky's priorities when he was chosen general manager last Wednesday. He said the sides had previously discussed a one-year deal, but he decided to broaden the discussion to a multiyear contract.

"We had some one-year discussions. Most of those were before I came onboard," Krivsky said. "I thought the best way to get this done was the way it ended up. I felt like let's make a statement here to some extent and see if we can get a two-year deal."

Dunn made $4.6 million last year, when he batted .247 with 40 homers, 101 RBI and 114 walks. He became the only player in Reds history to have two seasons with 100 runs, walks and RBI.

The contract agreement represented a compromise, with Dunn getting closer to the team's offer this season and the bigger raise next year.
"Hopefully there's one more [contract] at least beyond this one," Krivsky said. "We'll just have to see how it plays out. For the short term here, he's got a little security and we have a little cost certainty."

The Reds plan to move Dunn from left field to first base this season, taking over for Sean Casey, who was traded to Pittsburgh.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Pitching
[pre]<TABLE style="WIDTH: 232pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=309 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 88pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 4278" width=117><COL style="WIDTH: 48pt" span=3 width=64><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 88pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=117 height=17>Player</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>W/L</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>ERA</TD><TD class=xl23 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; WIDTH: 48pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=64>IP</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl22 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Dave F. Williams</TD><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">8--10</TD><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.93</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>151</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Eric F. Milton</TD><TD class=xl27 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">10--11</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.92</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>180</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Brandon F. Claussen</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">10--10</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.7</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>171</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Aaron Harang</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">12--11</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>4.21</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>199</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=17>Paul F. Wilson</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent">6--9</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>5.39</TD><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-TOP: #ebe9ed; BORDER-LEFT: #ebe9ed; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ebe9ed; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" x:num>125</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[/pre]
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What do the "F's" standfor there, Jax? :wink:

Last year the starters combined to go somethingalong the lines of 49-71, so a combined record of 46-51 would be a marked improvement, as disturbingly pathetic as that is.
 
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cincy

2/14/06

Line up for Opening Day

BY KEVIN KELLY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->Atop the entertainment center at Brian Geary's home rests an empty pizza box. It held one of the 30 pizzas that Reds center fielder Ken Griffey Jr. ordered last year for fans camped outside Great American Ball Park to buy Opening Day tickets.
"That was cool," Geary said. "I'd like to get it autographed."
The Finneytown resident was third in line last year, when tickets sold out in a record 12 minutes. But he'll be the first to the ticket window at 9 a.m. Saturday, when tickets go on sale for the team's home opener April 3 against the Cubs. Tickets for the remaining 80 home games go on sale at 9:30 a.m. Saturday.
Geary set up camp by the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum at 6:15 p.m. Friday. Monday, his tent was one of 11 on the Main Street sidewalk.
The team is providing portable restrooms and electrical outlets to which televisions and portable heaters are connected via extension cords.
Mike Haag of Price Hill got in line at noon Saturday and will buy the maximum six tickets for family and friends.
"Others want to be first or want the publicity," he said. "We don't want any of that. We just want tickets."
E-mail [email protected]
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Opening Day tickets<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=storytext bgColor=#eeeeee>Not willing to camp outside Great American Ball Park for Opening Day tickets? Here are other ways you can try to get attend the April 3 opener:

Call (513) 381-REDS.

Go online at www.reds.com.

Go to the Majestic Dugout Shop in downtown's Westin Hotel.

Go to an area Meijer store.

Tickets go on sale at 9 a.m. Last year's Opening Day tickets sold out in 12 minutes.



ONLINE: We want to hear from you. How far have you gone to secure Opening Day Reds tickets? E-mail us at [email protected].
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I am actually happy with a front office move by the Reds. Mark the date and time, it's been a while.

The Dunn contract is great for the Reds. He can be extended/renegotiated with that club option 3rd year, its cheap up front in case they want to trade him this year and you have one of the premier young hitters in baseball locked up for at least the next 3 years.

Good job Cas and Kriv. Now hire a hitman to get us out of the Milton contract and I'm real happy :wink2: .
 
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Just found this from the Dallas Morning News, I have no idea what the credibility of this Evan Grant Guy is, but this is certainly the first I have heard about any of this. Although I kind of hope that this doesn't happen because you know the only way the Reds win this one is if they severely overpay for the guy like they did with Milton.




As the Rangers – and The News' Evan Grant – get ready to report to spring training, there are many questions to be answered about the 2006 season. Monday afternoon, our readers had the chance to ask Grant about everything from the club's direction to its uniforms to its opening-day lineup. Here is a transcript of the chat:
Jayson in Arlington: Do the Rangers go after Jeff Weaver if they fail to lure the Rocket to Arlington? Or do they really need to take a risk on him? I think Rupe or Dominguez would be just as good, if not better bets. Thanks Evan. Great work.
Evan Grant: I don't think so. It sounds to me like Weaver will end up with the Los Angeles Angels or Cincinnati. The Rangers would be willing to make a pitch for Clemens because, well, he's Clemens and he'd basically pay for himself in increased revenue. Weaver would not. It would not be quite the no-risk situation of Clemens.
 
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