• New here? Register here now for access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Plus, stay connected and follow BP on Instagram @buckeyeplanet and Facebook.

Reds Tidbits (2006 Season)

Just went to ESPN's player profile pages, wondering where the hell Esteban Yan went, and saw the Reds released him Monday, the 24th. :confused:

Also, Paul Wilson had an awful outing last Friday in a AAA rehab start, and has been deactivated for the remainder of the season.

Wise is gone in favor of Germano for tonight, at least, and Joe Mays is no longer on the roster either.

The 5th starter spot is Germano's, if he wants it, since apparently everybody else has been cut loose.
 
Upvote 0
and Joe Mays is no longer on the roster either./quote]

Unfortunately, the Reds are apparently not done with Joe Mays because he cleared waivers (shocking!) and accepted the outright to AAA, so he's still in the organization.

I really hope that Germano jumps up and takes that fifth starters spot though so Krivsky doesn't have to go overpay for some shit starter who hasn't seen an ERA below 5.00 since about 2001 (see: Lieber, Jon or Lopez, Rodrigo).
 
Upvote 0
Well, when you look at all the guys that are supposedely "on the market" when it comes to pitching, there aren't any starters out there that I'd want. There's no point in giving up even career minor leaguers for a pitcher that's no better than your worst current starter. The only guy on the market that I'd like to see the Reds go after is Roberto Hernandez. I was looking over his stats, and it looks like his groudball/flyball ratio is around 1.5. His WHIP is kinda high (about 1.6), but his ERA is decent this year (3.00). I cringe though when I think about what the Reds would have to give up to get him though, considering the price they paid the last time they traded for middle relief, and also the price they paid the last time they traded with Pittsburgh.
 
Upvote 0
Ugh ... another night of ugly defense. A horrible time for it too, since the Cards lost and nearly everybody in contention for the wildcard lost also ... the Reds gave up a golden opportunity tonight.

I think it's time the Reds org faced facts and moved Griffey to a corner outfield spot. He's worth two hits for the opposing team anymore with his limited mobility at center.

I feel bad for Majewski, the defense behind him has been terrible every night he's gone out there. He gave up another run tonight that'll be marked earned, despite the fact that that run should've been hung on the 35 year olds behind him that have no range.
 
Upvote 0
Dispatch

7/30/06

BREWERS 6 REDS 3

Brewers wipe out 3-0 deficit in win over Reds

Sunday, July 30, 2006


ASSOCIATED PRESS

<!--PHOTOS--><TABLE class=phototableright align=right border=0><!-- begin large ad code --><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE align=center><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>
20060730-Pc-D1-0700.jpg
</IMG> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=credit width=200>DARREN HAUCK ASSOCIATED PRESS </TD></TR><TR><TD class=cutline width=200>Justin Germano delivers a pitch to the Brewers in the first inning of his first start for the Reds. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


MILWAUKEE — A couple of Milwaukee’s newest players combined with some of its veterans to get the Brewers a much-needed win last night.
Mike Rivera hit a tiebreaking RBI single, Prince Fielder added a solo homer and Milwaukee rallied from a 3-0 deficit to beat the Cincinnati Reds 6-3.
It was just the fifth win in 17 games for Milwaukee, which snapped a three-game losing streak.
"The new additions all had big nights to get us off that little streak we were on," manager Ned Yost said. "Hopefully we’ll start a new streak."
Derrick Turnbow worked the ninth for his 24 th save in 32 chances and first since June 29 against Chicago. Turnbow had blown his previous four save opportunities for Milwaukee
"I’m glad I was able to get out of there and get the job done," Turnbow said. "It’s been a while."
Cincinnati led 3-0 after two innings but Bill Hall hit a two-run homer in the fourth to tie it. It was Hall’s 24 th homer of the season.
"When you have someone on the ropes early like that you need to take advantage of it and we didn’t," Cincinnati manager Jerry Narron said. "The big thing tonight was we had a chance early to blow the game open and we didn’t do it."
David Bell, who was acquired from Philadelphia on Friday, doubled to snap a 0-for-15 streak and scored on Rivera’s two-out single in the sixth to give Milwaukee a 4-3 lead. Fielder hit his 19 th homer in the seventh.
Geremi Gonzalez (3-2) pitched a 1-2-3 sixth inning to get the win.
Hall led off the eighth with a double and scored on a one-out single by pinch-hitter Gabe Gross to make it 6-3. Rich Aurilia, Scott Hatteberg and Royce Clayton each drove in a run for the Reds.
Milwaukee starter Doug Davis threw three scoreless innings after the Reds jumped to a 3-0 lead. He allowed seven hits, struck out six and walked three.
"We did a good job early on Doug Davis," Narron said. "We got his pitch count up and we did everything we had to do except tack on some runs. We had a chance to knock him out and we just didn’t do it."
Kevin Mench, acquired from the Rangers on Friday, drove in Milwaukee’s first run with a single that scored Tony Graffanino, another new teammate, in the third.
"These guys are established big leaguers," Hall said. "They’re not just coming in out of the minor leagues. They’ve been around for a while and know how to play the game. We expect them to come in here and do exactly what they’ve done."
Justin Germano (0-1), recalled from triple-A Louisville earlier in the day, made his second appearance of the season with the Reds and first since May 30 but was sent back to the minors after the game.
The right-hander, making his first start since Sept. 14, 2004, with San Diego, struck out eight but allowed four earned runs and eight hits in 5 2 /3 innings.
"My arm felt great, I thought I threw the ball pretty well and I’m glad I got up here to get the opportunity," Germano said. "I pitched well, but if I could take back one pitch, it would be that one to Hall."
 
Upvote 0
Dispatch

7/31/06

Sheets shuts down Reds

Newcomer Cordero halts Cincinnati rally in ninth

Monday, July 31, 2006

<!--PHOTOS--><TABLE class=phototableright align=right border=0><!-- begin large ad code --><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE align=center><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>
20060731-Pc-F1-0600.jpg
</IMG> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=cutline width=200>Reds catcher Jason LaRue is late with the tag as Brady Clark of the Brewers scores in the first inning. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


MILWAUKEE (AP) — Ben Sheets wanted to finish his first win since coming off the disabled list. Francisco Cordero made everything all right in the end.
Sheets allowed two runs in eight innings, Kevin Mench drove in four runs and Cordero got one out for his first save with his new club, leading the Milwaukee Brewers over the Cincinnati Reds 4-3 yesterday.
"Ben Sheets was outstanding," Reds manager Jerry Narron said. "It was one of the best games we’ve seen all year."
Sheets carried a five-hit shutout into the ninth, but Adam Dunn singled and Ken Griffey Jr. followed with his 21 st homer of the season to chase the right-hander from the game.
"To battle back like that after the day Ben Sheets had against us was outstanding," Narron said.
Brewers manager Ned Yost pulled Sheets against his wishes.
"Benny didn’t want to come out of the game," Yost said. "It made no sense to push him."
The Brewers then inserted Derrick Turnbow, who saved Milwaukee’s 6-3 victory Saturday night after blowing four straight save opportunities. Rich Aurilia greeted him with a home run to cut the deficit to 4-3.
Yost pulled Turnbow after the Reds put runners on first and third with two outs. Pinch-runner Brandon Watson stole second, but Cordero got pinchhitter David Ross to ground out for his first save with Milwaukee.
The Brewers acquired Cordero and Mench on Friday in the deal that sent All-Star outfielder Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers. Cordero, who was a closer and then a setup man for Texas, said whatever the Brewers want him to do is fine.
"If I’m going to contribute to the team in any way, that’s what I’m going to do," he said.
Sheets (2-3) struck out 10 and issued one intentional walk in his second start since being reinstated off the disabled list last week. He was out for 2 1 /2 months because of tendinitis in his right shoulder.
Sheets allowed one run in seven innings in his first start off the DL, getting a no-decision in Milwaukee’s 6-1 loss to Pittsburgh on Tuesday.
"I don’t care about the decision," said Sheets, who beat Atlanta on April 26 in his only other victory this season. "We needed a win bad."
The Brewers took two of three from the Reds and won for just the sixth time in 18 games.
"Two out of three, we needed to do that and we did it," Sheets said. "(I’m) hoping that’s a step in the right direction for what we want to do."
Sheets improved to 6-3 with a 2.36 ERA in 13 career starts against the Reds, his best ERA against any National League team. He gave up two runs in seven innings of a 3-1 loss to Cincinnati on April 21.
Mench singled in a run in the first. He hit a three-run drive in the seventh for his first homer with Milwaukee.
Aaron Harang (11-7) left after Mench’s shot. He allowed four runs and 10 hits while striking out nine and walking one in six innings.
"He made one bad pitch there to Menchie in the seventh, but other than that he did a pretty good job today," Narron said.
Sheets worked out of a jam in the second. Aurilia singled and Scott Hatteberg struck out before Brandon Phillips doubled to left. Juan Castro struck out and Jason LaRue was walked intentionally, but Harang struck out to end the inning. Milwaukee’s defense helped out Sheets with big double plays to end the sixth and seventh.
 
Upvote 0
Krivsky values bullpen arms over a 5th starter. Germano is gone at the trade deadline!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2535126

More trades: Phils deal Cormier to Reds for Germano
ESPN.com news services


CINCINNATI -- The Cincinnati Reds added left-hander Rheal Cormier to their bullpen Monday, sending 23-year-old right-hander Justin Germano to Philadelphia.

Germano, obtained from San Diego last year, was called up by the Reds to start Saturday night's game at Milwaukee, taking the 6-3 loss before being optioned back to Triple-A Louisville.

Cormier, 39, is 2-2 with a 1.59 earned run average this season. In his 14-year major league career, he is 71-63 with a 4.01 ERA in stints with St. Louis, Boston, Montreal, and the Phillies.

In less than a month, the Reds, leading in the National League wild card race, have overhauled their bullpen with trades that have brought closer Eddie Guardado from Seattle and relievers Gary Majewski and Bill Bray from Washington.

The Phillies, meanwhile, continued a flurry of trades that included Sunday's deal that sent outfielder Bobby Abreu and starting pitcher Cory Lidle to the New York Yankees for four minor league prospects.

Germano appeared in two games this season for Cincinnati, going 0-1 with a 5.40 ERA. At Louisville, he was 8-6 with a 3.69 ERA in 19 games (18 starts).

The Phillies also recalled right-handed relief pitcher Brian Sanches from Scranton/Wilkes-Barre to replace Cormier, while the Reds optioned outfielder Brandon Watson to Louisville.

The Reds said Cormier had agreed to a one-year contract extension through 2007, with a club option for 2008.
 
Upvote 0
Curious.....so the fifth starter becomes.....who? Mays has proven he can't cut it. Claussen's on the DL. Wilson isn't even close to being ready. Belisle is still on the DL.

Homer Bailey? Krivskey has been adamant that he's staying in Chattanooga but there isn't anyone else to fill in as the fifth starter.
 
Upvote 0
Curious.....so the fifth starter becomes.....who? Mays has proven he can't cut it. Claussen's on the DL. Wilson isn't even close to being ready. Belisle is still on the DL.

Homer Bailey? Krivskey has been adamant that he's staying in Chattanooga but there isn't anyone else to fill in as the fifth starter.

Apparently, it will be Kyle Lohse, who, according to redszone, has been acquired for single A pitcher Zack Ward. Not sure how I feel about that one, although maybe he'll have the same "change of scenery/switching leagues" effect that had Arroyo rolling earlier in the year.
 
Upvote 0
Apparently, it will be Kyle Lohse, who, according to redszone, has been acquired for single A pitcher Zack Ward. Not sure how I feel about that one, although maybe he'll have the same "change of scenery/switching leagues" effect that had Arroyo rolling earlier in the year.
There are two cases the Reds can draw from when considering the effect of a pitcher switching leagues: Eric Milton and Bronson Arroyo. There are a number of different ways to cut up a pitchers statistics, but I think the most telling would be to consider their teams, the defenses behind them, and the competition.

Arroyo had a subpar defense in Boston, and in the AL East was facing some of the strongest competition. Milton had a superior defense in Minnesota for several years, and in the pre-ChiSox/Tiger dominated AL Central, was facing very weak competition back then. Arroyo moved into a situation more favorable (BoSox to Reds), while Milton was bound to take a hit (Twins to Phillies).

Another fact is that GABP just isn't friendly for a flyball pitcher. Lohse, like Dave Williams, will be even more disasterous than Milton. Lohse has worse control than Milton, again comparable to Williams. He brings over a higher ERA and more HRs allowed. Milton's WHIP and K/9 are significantly better. Anyway you cut it, Lohse doesn't make any sense.

Now, I can see taking a chance on some pitchers based on these other situational criteria and not just simple ERA, such as the case of someone like Joe Mays, whose KC Royals would've benefitted from a Tom Emanski video. Lohse, however, couldn't have possibly had a better situation. He was on Team WebGem(tm) for three years, and was a sub-optimal bottom of the rotation guy there.
 
Upvote 0
Lohse doesn't seem like the answer. WK has made me a believer, and coming from the Twinkies organization he likely knows something we don't, but I have to agree with Dryden. He's a fly ball pitcher in a hitters park. If we wanted that as a 5th starter, why not keep Dave Williams (and not give up a 7-0 prospect in return)?

I do like the Cormier move though. We also have him for next year and an option for '08.
 
Upvote 0
Reds trade for Lohse
Cormier also added for playoff run
BY JOHN FAY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER
<!--ARTICLE BODY TEXT-->The Reds made two trades today and acquired starting pitcher Kyle Lohse from the Minnesota Twins and relief pitcher Rheal Cormier from the Phillies.
The Reds gave up two pitchers, Justin Germano to Philadelphia and minor leaguer Zach Ward to the Twins.
Lohse, 27, is 51-57 with a 4.89 ERA in his career.
ad_head.gif

<SCRIPT language=JavaScript>OAS_AD('ArticleFlex_1');</SCRIPT>http://gcirm.cincinnati.com/RealMed..._300x250.jpg/34323338656335613434636534616530
His best years were 2002, when he went 13-8 with a 4.23 ERA, and 2003, when he went 14-11 with a 4.61 ERA.
He slipped to 9-13 with a 5.35 ERA in 2004, and was 9-13 with a 4.18 ERA last year.

Lohse has had his problems in Minnesota. Last season, he damaged manager Ron Gardenhire's office door with a bat after being pulled after two innings from a start.

This season, he was sent to Triple-A on May 17 after going 2-4 with an 8.92 ERA in eight starts. Lohse had allowed 57 hits and 19 walks in 38 1/3 innings while striking out 24 at the time of his demotion. The Twins brought him back the majors on June 9. He's 0-1 with a 4.26 ERA since being recalled.

Lohse and Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky are familiar with one another. Krivsky was an assistant general manager for the Twins before coming to the Reds. Krivsky's last Minnesota reclamation project was a failure. He brought in former Twin Joe Mays. Mays went 0-1 with a 9.45 ERA in four starts before being designated for assignment.

He makes $3.95 million this year.

Cormier, 39, is 2-2 with a 1.59 ERA for the Phillies this year. He's appeared in 43 games. He's allowed 27 hits in 34 innings. He's walked 13 and struck out 13.


Germano, 23, obtained in the Joe Randa trade last year, went 5 2/3 innings, allowing four in a 6-3 loss to the Milwaukee Brewers Saturday. He was 8-6 with a 3.69 ERA at Louisville. He was optioned back to Louisville after Saturday's start.

Ward, a 22-year-old right-hander, was the third pick in last year's draft. He was 7-0 with 2.29 ERA for Single-A Dayton.

The Reds and Cormier agreed to a one-year contract extension through the 2007 season, with a club option for 2008.

His 1.59 ERA is the lowest among all National League relievers. He's allowed two runs in three innings since the All-Star break.

He makes $2.5 million this season.

Cormier is a 15-year big league veteran. He's pitched for St. Louis, Boston, Montreal and Philadelphia.

He is sixth on the the Phillies’ all-time appearance list with 363 and seventh in relief victories with 28.

Reds manager Jerry Narron and general manager Wayne Krivsky will discuss the trade in 4:30 p.m. news conference.

The non-waiver trading deadline is at 4 p.m. today.
 
Upvote 0
ESP(i)N's Buster Olney was just on the Trade Deadline Special talking about the Lohse move. He said he spoke with WK and said Lohse will pitch out of the pen. Apparently Lohse has has a 1.2 ERA over the last month coming out of the pen and should add some depth to the pen. I don' t know if it will matter in the GAB, but we can hope.
 
Upvote 0
Back
Top