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RB Maurice Clarett (B1G Freshman of the Year, National Champion)

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Bucklion said:
Brown is like any other hack...money talks. Now that MoC doesn't have potential millions in his future, it's amazing how many of his "friends" and "advisors" have abandoned him, isn't it?
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There were reports last year that Brown gave up on MoC because he refused the advice of taking OSU's punishment and playing again for the Bucks. IIRC you don't see much of Brown involved with MoC once he declared for the NFL.
 
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I think that the thing most people are not talking about is how this is just a normal guy that has become a threat to Columbus society. It was one thing to drag the OSU football program through the mud with lies. But now this situation has gotten MUCH worse.

Clarett is no longer an NFL or collegiate player, he now a normal man of Columbus. But, Columbus has got one more reason to fear - another armed crimal. Half of the posters on BuckeyePlanet dont reside in Columbus and do not think about how the ones that do (I was born and raised here) makes this beloved city look. This has just increased the numbers of crimal acts tearing down a great city that is rebuilding itself into a better light. If any of the Columbus citizens have been down to campus lately, you will see the hard work put in to make us look good, and the bottom line is that this does completely the opposite.

Troy Smith and Jim Tressel needs to cut off ALL communications ASAP. As does Columbus, Ohio.
 
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sandgk said:
I seriously doubt that Jim Tressel will ever toss Clarett anything other than life-preservers.
Why? - Because that would be the Christian thing to do.
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And I'm sure JT sat in the Clarett living room and made a pledge to look after their son, as he probably does every kid who comes his way. He takes that commitment very seriously, and he will do anything to fulfill it for every family he promises it to...even when disappointed or betrayed. That's the kind of man he is.
 
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Bucklion said:
And I'm sure JT sat in the Clarett living room and made a pledge to look after their son, as he probably does every kid who comes his way. He takes that commitment very seriously, and he will do anything to fulfill it for every family he promises it to...even when disappointed or betrayed. That's the kind of man he is.
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Yes, but when a boy becomes a man after dragging both Columbus and OSU through the mud, there comes a limit.

If you know anything about Tressels backround, along with his dad, you would understand why Im very suprised Tress has continued to interact with Clarett (up untill a few weeks ago even). Tressels father, as well as Jim, always admired Ohio State and loved to watch the games. They were born are raised in Ohio, both got their degrees in Ohio, while playing football for Ohio. So to them, Ohio is more than a state - its a backdrop to your life. It is one of the msot important and beloved things to them. Reading about Jims mother, you will see that she loved the community so much that she could have been (as quoted) the mayor of the town. Now, I understand, Tressel (like Woody) has a degree in teaching and the last thing a teacher will do is give up on a person. But there comes a time when you must let go of a person that is not willing to change on his own.

It seems even with a contract to play NFL Europe, Clarett didnt care about righting wrongs, or straighting out his life. Why should Troy Smith and Jim Tressel continue to bother with a person that wants nothing more in life than attention (be it good attention or bad)? Its not helping our city of Columbus, which is the most important, and it surely isnt helping the OSU program.
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
Yes, but when a boy becomes a man after dragging both Columbus and OSU through the mud, there comes a limit.

If you know anything about Tressels backround, along with his dad, you would understand why Im very suprised Tress has continued to interact with Clarett (up untill a few weeks ago even). Tressels father, as well as Jim, always admired Ohio State and loved to watch the games. They were born are raised in Ohio, both got their degrees in Ohio, while playing football for Ohio. So to them, Ohio is more than a state - its a backdrop to your life. It is one of the msot important and beloved things to them. Reading about Jims mother, you will see that she loved the community so much that she could have been (as quoted) the mayor of the town. Now, I understand, Tressel (like Woody) has a degree in teaching and the last thing a teacher will do is give up on a person. But there comes a time when you must let go of a person that is not willing to change on his own.

It seems even with a contract to play NFL Europe, Clarett didnt care about righting wrongs, or straighting out his life. Why should Troy Smith and Jim Tressel continue to bother with a person that wants nothing more in life than attention (be it good attention or bad)? Its not helping our city of Columbus, which is the most important, and it surely isnt helping the OSU program.
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Ironically I know a great deal about he and his dad...my father-in-law played for him, back when Lee was the coach and young JT (and his brothers) was a manager for BW...and I came to the opposite conclusion you did. Knowing what I know of the Tressel family, it doesn't surprise me in the least what JT continues to try and do for him (MoC)...as I said, it's the kind of people they are, and they both have such a supreme level of commitment to the kids and families of everyone who ever played for them...warts and all. These are kids...and I think that JT saw a good kid in there somewhere...probably still does. Many of us may not, but he knows him better than we do. Unfortunately, it appears his efforts are all for not...but I just get the feeling that JT could never live with thinking he could have tried or done something more with him or for him. It seems he's done everything he can...its a shame.

I'm not saying you are wrong, 85....just that we see it differently.
 
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It is one thing to allow someone to repeatedly take advantage of you, its another to offer advice and direction as an act of Christian love for another human being. I see JT's actions being much more the latter than the former.

BTW, as bad as it looks for him, these are still only allegations against Clarrett
 
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Bucklion said:
Ironically I know a great deal about he and his dad...my father-in-law played for him, back when Lee was the coach and young JT (and his brothers) was a manager for BW...and I came to the opposite conclusion you did. Knowing what I know of the Tressel family, it doesn't surprise me in the least what JT continues to try and do for him (MoC)...as I said, it's the kind of people they are, and they both have such a supreme level of commitment to the kids and families of everyone who ever played for them...warts and all. These are kids...and I think that JT saw a good kid in there somewhere...probably still does. Many of us may not, but he knows him better than we do. Unfortunately, it appears his efforts are all for not...but I just get the feeling that JT could never live with thinking he could have tried or done something more with him or for him. It seems he's done everything he can...its a shame.

I'm not saying you are wrong, 85....just that we see it differently.
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I completely agree that he is a devoted coach and teacher (both the game and in life). He rarely makes a commitment that he lets go of. But Im just curious when his pride and love for Ohio comes in and he lets a now burden to the community and the school go?


I love your insight as well bro, Im more or less like you. Teching others that may not know much about Tressel, as to why he is communicating with Clarett. But my only question is, "when is enough, enough?"
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
I completely agree that he is a devoted coach and teacher (both the game and in life). He rarely makes a commitment that he lets go of. But Im just curious when his pride and love for Ohio comes in and he lets a now burden to the community and the school go?


I love your insight as well bro, Im more or less like you. Teching others that may not know much about Tressel, as to why he is communicating with Clarett. But my only question is, "when is enough, enough?"
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A good question indeed. If JT thinks there's a good kid in there, the answer is probably never. He knows, better than anyone, the bad advice that MoC has gotten since he was, oh...about 5, but especially when he got to HS and then to OSU. I'm not making excuses for him at all, far from it, and I'm sure JT wouldn't either, but he's talked about how his team is part of his family a lot...so I am guessing he would never turn his back on his family, no matter what, so that may be where he is coming from...I'm just speculating, of course.
 
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Seldom has a picture perfectly captured the essence of a football player. It was funny how OSU fans defended him when that picture came out, saying he was caught in the act by ESPN had how he had no idea what was going on. How stupid does that sound now?

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tibor75 said:
Seldom has a picture perfectly captured the essence of a football player. It was funny how OSU fans defended him when that picture came out, saying he was caught in the act by ESPN had how he had no idea what was going on. How stupid does that sound now?

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I thought that pic was disgusting but if Mo had his way right now, betcha he would be grabbing that thing off the sod like the hungry to food. lol Man is he a moron.
 
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