QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[youra6]

What are you talking about? Really? I am glad he is finally doing good tonight, I loved that run he just had. But you want to ban me for expressing my individual opinion, that Pryror is a slower learner which would slow down his development and play on the field. I will copy and paste and show others how Emo you are. Calling for a ban for expressing my opinion and explaining my opinion RIGHT or WRONG. Your funny guy.

It's not about what you say, it's about how you say it. I may also take the unpopular opinion and agree that Pryor isn't ready for a starting position; but I would not say something as outrageous as:

"Pryor will never be better because it is in the head"

How can you even jump to that conclusion??

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

It's not about what you say, it's about how you say it. I may also take the unpopular opinion and agree that Pryor isn't ready for a starting position; but I would not say something as outrageous as:

"Pryor will never be better because it is in the head"

How can you even jump to that conclusion??

No shit. And I thank you for seeing what I saw.

 

[ColumbusSublime]

It's not about what you say, it's about how you say it. I may also take the unpopular opinion and agree that Pryor isn't ready for a starting position; but I would not say something as outrageous as:

"Pryor will never be better because it is in the head"

How can you even jump to that conclusion??

I love Pryor but always thought he was a slower learner . Nothing wrong with that. Hope he beats Flynn out. I see what you are saying now sorry. But I meant , just because they are both thick tall and have some speed that they necessarily shouldn't be compared as cam had probably the best rookie season ever for a quarterback and won rookie of the year and it putting up some stats now and Pryor is just now starting to come into his own. I get your point I worded it wrong! Go Pryor through ! I can think of 3 plays of his that could be in the top ten, but I could see Espn lumping them together.

 

[y0yoyoin]

I will copy and paste and show others how Emo you are.

Quote of the year?

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Quote of the year?

Sure! Please encourage him.

 

[ColumbusSublime]

Sure! Please encourage him.

Horseshoe I will admit , after watching Pryor tonight I think his potential is as high as Newtons. But you have to agree, for some reason it does take him a while to get IT but when he does watch out. He is really staring to come together in his third season. Raiders need to start him or let him go start and develop somewhere else

 

[HorseshoeFetish]

Horseshoe I will admit , after watching Pryor tonight I think his potential is as high as Newtons. But you have to agree, for some reason it does take him a while to get IT but when he does watch out. He is really staring to come together in his third season. Raiders need to start him or let him go start and develop somewhere else

Great now copy and paste. I need to see how you make me the oldest Emo on the planet.

 

[billmac91]

Horseshoe I will admit , after watching Pryor tonight I think his potential is as high as Newtons. But you have to agree, for some reason it does take him a while to get IT but when he does watch out. He is really staring to come together in his third season. Raiders need to start him or let him go start and develop somewhere else

Your implication that TP is "slow" and doesn't get "it" completely contradicts his career at Ohio State. This is the same guy that unseated a senior All-Conference QB as a true freshman. As a sophomore he ripped apart a good Oregon defense for Rose Bowl MVP. As a junior he ripped apart a 1 loss Arkansas team for a Sugar Bowl MVP.

Throughout his career at Ohio State he operated in a pro-style spread offense that allowed him to make reads and audibles. Comparatively, Cam Newton ran an offense in which he never made audibles, didn't call out plays, and 75% of the time had 1 read to make in the passing game.

Life is about opportunities. Terrelle left college in about the worst possible way, and entered the NFL through the supplemental draft. He was suspended the first 6 games of his career for trading trinkets for tattoos. From a physical and mental stand-point, I think most knowledgeable football heads would tell you Pryor is superior. Gruden was blown away by TP's knowledge during their QB camp special. Had Terrelle played his senior year and dominated as everyone thought he would, he's likely a top 10 pick and handed the keys to a franchise the same way Cam did.

Long story short, your assumption is stupid.

 

[EidoloN]

Long story short, your assumption is stupid.

Haha, THIS! Booyah!

 

[Dryden]

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/

3 of the Top 5 thread topics at the time of this post:

Pryor pryor pryor!!!!!!
The Team Responds to Pryor
Bench Flynn & Start Pryor!

 

[Dryden]

7/9 93 yrds 10.3 avg 1TD 0INT 146.8 RTG. Was also the teams leading rusher with 4 carries for 37 yards and a TD.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=330823013

Matt Flynn threw two interceptions on just six passes before being pulled in favor of Terrelle Pryor in the second quarter to the delight of the frustrated crowd of Raiders fans. Oakland's first-team defense was shredded and the usually reliable Sebastian Janikowski even missed a 49-yard field goal before connecting from 58 yards out on the final play of the first half to get Oakland on the board.

Pryor then electrified the crowd by leading a late field-goal drive in the first half and then running and throwing for scores in the third quarter. Pryor finished 7 for 9 for 93 yards passing to go along with 37 yards rushing and led Oakland to 20 points on five drives.

 

[ColumbusSublime]

Your implication that TP is "slow" and doesn't get "it" completely contradicts his career at Ohio State. This is the same guy that unseated a senior All-Conference QB as a true freshman. As a sophomore he ripped apart a good Oregon defense for Rose Bowl MVP. As a junior he ripped apart a 1 loss Arkansas team for a Sugar Bowl MVP.

Throughout his career at Ohio State he operated in a pro-style spread offense that allowed him to make reads and audibles. Comparatively, Cam Newton ran an offense in which he never made audibles, didn't call out plays, and 75% of the time had 1 read to make in the passing game.

Life is about opportunities. Terrelle left college in about the worst possible way, and entered the NFL through the supplemental draft. He was suspended the first 6 games of his career for trading trinkets for tattoos. From a physical and mental stand-point, I think most knowledgeable football heads would tell you Pryor is superior. Gruden was blown away by TP's knowledge during their QB camp special. Had Terrelle played his senior year and dominated as everyone thought he would, he's likely a top 10 pick and handed the keys to a franchise the same way Cam did.

Long story short, your assumption is stupid.

No, no , your assumption is stupid. You are making points with things from college? If cam had to do nothing in college why could he enter the Nfl and excell instantly? Once your in the nfl it is fair game , everyone gets chances from a understated player to the number pick. Do not tell me the reason Pryor hasn't started since his first year in theleague is because he was not given keys to the franchise. Cam did not do terrible when he played his rookie year like Pryor did. Be realistic.

 

[Dryden]

No, no , your assumption is stupid. You are making points with things from college? If cam had to do nothing in college why could he enter the Nfl and excell instantly? Once your in the nfl it is fair game , everyone gets chances from a understated player to the number pick. Do not tell me the reason Pryor hasn't started since his first year in theleague is because he was not given keys to the franchise. Cam did not do terrible when he played his rookie year like Pryor did. Be realistic.

A rookie coming in behind Carson Palmer and Jason Campbell is not going to get the same opportunities as a rookie coming in behind Jimmy Clausen and Derek Anderson.

 

[Dryden]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...e-learned-friday-pryor-young-state-their-case

What we learned Friday: Pryor, Young state their case

Oakland Raiders quarterback Matt Flynn can be forgiven if he feels a sense of deja vu following Friday 34-26 preseason loss to the Chicago Bears.
It was a year ago this week that the Seattle Seahawks named Russell Wilson their starter, sending Flynn to the bench.

Flynn might be awaiting the same fate after he was thoroughly outplayed by Terrelle Pryor Friday night. Carrying the imprimatur of general manager Reggie McKenzie and the anointing oils of coach Dennis Allen, Flynn had to face plant in the third preseason game to leave the door open for Pryor.

That's exactly how it went down. Flynn's offense was a "debaculous fiasco," falling behind 27-0 by late in the second quarter while inviting a chorus of boos and "Pryor!, Pryor!" chants from the home crowd.

After a rocky first series, Pryor proceeded to light a fire under the previously lifeless Raiders. Making plays with his legs as well as his arm, Pryor led four scoring drives to bring his team within one score of the Bears in just over a quarter of action.

Allen will review the film before deciding on his Week 1 quarterback. "We gotta look at it. Don't think Matt Flynn played well," Allen said after the game, via the San Francisco Chronicle. "Terrelle gave us a spark. We're not going to make any decision tonight."

 

[billmac91]

No, no , your assumption is stupid. You are making points with things from college? If cam had to do nothing in college why could he enter the Nfl and excell instantly? Once your in the nfl it is fair game , everyone gets chances from a understated player to the number pick. Do not tell me the reason Pryor hasn't started since his first year in theleague is because he was not given keys to the franchise. Cam did not do terrible when he played his rookie year like Pryor did. Be realistic.

I'm using college as an example of Terrelle's intelligence. You don't unseat Todd Boeckman, All-Conference senior QB and a first round projected pick by Mel Kiper, if you're stupid and slow. Pryor's intelligence on the field has never been a major question. His mechanics, touch on short throws, and general attitude were.

The Panthers took Cam with the #1 pick after tanking the season for Andrew Luck. They needed a QB and took the next best QB in the draft. The idea all along was to bring in a rookie starter. And Cam succeeded because Rob Chudzinski is really smart and created an offense around Newton that allowed him to play in a similar way to Auburn. Tons of read-option principles and 1 read throws. I'm not surprised Cam struggled a lot last year as the NFL adjusted to him. If Pryor has really fixed his throwing, and it looks like he has, I think his ceiling is above Newton. Arm strength is a wash, Pryor is faster and shiftier, and Pryor had 3 years of playing in an NFL system. It will definitely be interesting to see how Newton looks in Mike Shula's offense and how much read-option they continue to use.

Pryor entered the NFL through the supplemental draft with a major suspension hanging over his head. He was also selected by a team that had just given up multiple first round picks and a boatload of cash for Carson Palmer. The Raiders had no intention of making Pryor a starter. Pryor entered the league with a firestorm around him. He missed rookie mini-camp, didn't play in the pre-season, and then missed the first 5 games serving the suspension. He was seen as toxic by a lot of franchises. Hindsight would probably tell us that entire situation was blown insanely out of proportion, but that is ESPN mud-raking at its finest.

Had Pryor entered the NFL after shredding college football for his fourth year, he gets taken in the first round by a team in need of a QB. Especially after the season Cam put up as a rookie, proving those types of QB's can be successful.

Once again, your assumptions are idiotic.