QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[Zurp]

Would there be anything wrong in letting a quarterback learning to call his own plays just for once to let the coaches see what happens. Just once i would like to have the coaches give the kid a chance to make his own decision in plays. It doesn't have to be in game situations, maybe just in practices to see if Terelle is learning things on his own. Then after sit him down in the film room and review his calls that he made. Is there anything
wrong with that. Just asking.

Who says this hasn't been done in practice?

 

[kippy1040]

Who says this hasn't been done in practice?

I guess there is alot we don't know what goes on in practice, but i am just trying to add something to this thread about simple mechanics that Terrell
has and hopefully the coaches can add to his abilities. He is an all-around
athelete, what more can coaches teach him that can add to his thinking
when it comes to making a good decision?

 

[BuckNut65]

He has to be able to recognize coverages and understand where he needs to go with the ball before they will let him check off at the line of scrimmage. It is clear he has not completely grasped that yet. When they feel confident that he can can break down a coverage and know where to go with the ball you will see them cut him loose. Trust me...this is being worked on in practice and by watching film.
That's what you saw with TS his senior year and we all know what kind of season he and the offense had.

 

[CalvinistBuck]

it's official. there's no pleasing the Ohio State fan base.

Your comment in the tOSU Offense discussion thread is similar.

When posters engage in constructive criticism, I think such dialogue should be encouraged. Sweeping comments that the fan base can never be satisfied does nothing to promote useful discussion.

In addition, based on Coach Tressel's own words, he, too, was not satisfied with the production on offense last Saturday. He typically says things like, "We need to work on this..." Why not discuss what we think they need to work on? After all, this is a discussion thread, is it not?

 

[notfadeaway]

Your comment in the tOSU Offense discussion thread is similar.

When posters engage in constructive criticism, I think such dialogue should be encouraged. Sweeping comments that the fan base can never be satisfied does nothing to promote useful discussion.

In addition, based on Coach Tressel's own words, he, too, was not satisfied with the production on offense last Saturday. He typically says things like, "We need to work on this..." Why not discuss what we think they need to work on? After all, this is a discussion threads, is it not?

Well obviously the staff needs to work on making us happy. Clearly this can only be done by taking all of our great advice here on the planet

 

[kippy1040]

Maybe BuckeyeNation was being funny. He did not harm anything by that comment. True. Some buckeye fans are VERY HARD to please. Alot of this discussion is just here in BP. I doubt if any coaches or players would look in here and view this as Constructive Criticism for thier own purpose. They all get that from each other in team meetings and practice. We here in BP go back and forth with our thoughts to spur on different views and that is all. Just take it for what its worth and move on.

 

[notfadeaway]

I was just being sarcastic...I appreciate the discussion.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Your comment in the tOSU Offense discussion thread is similar.

When posters engage in constructive criticism, I think such dialogue should be encouraged. Sweeping comments that the fan base can never be satisfied does nothing to promote useful discussion.

In addition, based on Coach Tressel's own words, he, too, was not satisfied with the production on offense last Saturday. He typically says things like, "We need to work on this..." Why not discuss what we think they need to work on? After all, this is a discussion thread, is it not?

I was making fun of the fact that there are now complaints about not enough I-formation. First we aren't imaginative enough, now we're not boring enough?

 

[CalvinistBuck]

I was making fun of the fact that there are now complaints about not enough I-formation. First we aren't imaginative enough, now we're not boring enough?

I get it.

I just recalled the same "can't make the fans happy" remark in the 2009 tOSU offense discussion thread. There's been some decent discussion over there and I think it should be encouraged.

BTW, after listening to the brief comments by TP and Coach Siciliano on theozone.net (linked earlier), I was curious if there might be some additional discussion about TP's progress.

 

[Taosman]

I would like to see steady progress instead of starts and back slides, but this may be just a case where there is so much to learn that Pryor may take 4 years to get there. Teams hadn't seen him last year and that helped. This is the big learning year. Hopefully, by seasons end his progress will be noteworthy like the whole offense/team.

 

[scarletngray]

There must be little things that the coaches are picking up on that give them cause to be optimistic. A BIG thing is that they both say that Pryor is a good listener, studies hard and works hard to improve. That WILL go along way, in time.

Right now it is hot or cold with TP. Some of it is mechanics, some of it is decision making, and some of it is things beyond his control, a bad play call or a break down in blocking, bad route running, etc.

Concerning the third issue, the coaches need to detect, at an early stage in the game, what the Defense is giving TP, and call plays that will contribute to his success and the Offense moving the chains. It all begins with the coaches putting TP in a position to be successful. I'm not as negative about the play calling as some people are, but there has certainly been a number of occasions when a better play call could have made all the difference in moving the chains.

Concerning the last issue, the OL, RB's and WR's must also do all they can to insure that TP is successful. A successful TP = A successful Offense = A WIN. Everyone on Offense needs to read the Defense properly and execute properly. Break downs along the line or among the receiving corp places TP in a position that when his instincts take over, he often makes a big play with his legs. But he also tends to panic and will force a throw or take a sack when he could have thrown the ball away. The other 10 guys also need to be consistent and that has not always been the case.

Concerning mechanics and decision making, those things will come as TP continues to work on his craft. A special, naturally gifted athlete, can sometimes forget the fundamentals and revert back to his athleticism, and TP has certainly been guilty of that. The great thing is that when everything has fallen into place, i.e. a good play call, execution by the other 10 guys and good decision making and mechanics by TP, we have seen that our Offense can move up and down the field extremely well. TP has made some phenomenal throws this year, that imo, he could not have made, and would not have made, last year.

One thing that should never be forgotten in this equation is the heart of TP and his deep determination to succeed at a high level. Those who question his heart or his mental toughness, have no idea what they are talking about. The guy is a warrior and he is bound and determined to succeed as a pocket passer.

Good things come to those who wait. One day, either at practice or maybe in the fourth quarter of a hard fought game, the light is going to turn on, things are going to fall into place, and the Buckeye Nation is going to witness a beautiful transformation that will be well worth the wait.....

:osu:

 

[Zurp]

I'm still waiting for Pryor to fake a punt on 2nd down, run around the end, down the sideline, and when he gets to the 5, punt it out of bounds at the 2. That'll show the critics!

 

[Buckskin86]

Ohio State spotlight: Terrelle Pryor
Thursday, October 15, 2009
By Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

PHOTO (top): Ohio State's Terrelle Pryor will look to improve on the Buckeyes' passing game this week. OSU ranks 108th nationally in passing offense. (Neal C. Lauron, Dispatch)

Late in a practice this week at Ohio State, there was a roar. Through a crack in the screen that hides the field, Terrelle Pryor could be seen in the midst of the hoopla, celebrating with his teammates after a touchdown against OSU's defense.

"He had a great day today throwing," center Michael Brewster explained later.

If only that had been the case a few days earlier in the 31-13 win over Wisconsin. Pryor was just 5 of 13 in that game

After a very slow start, he did hit DeVier Posey on a 32-yard touchdown pass just before halftime. But the offense didn't get a chance to play again for another hour, and most of that spark was gone by then.

Going into the game today at Purdue, critics have again lined up to question OSU's offensive prowess in general, and Pryor's in particular. Six games into his sophomore season, he's already thrown two more interceptions - six - than he did a year ago, and his accuracy has been intermittent.

But if the criticism is getting to Pryor, it's not apparent.

"He's fine," Brewster said. "People are going to try to put the blame on him, but that's what they do everywhere when the offense didn't put up the points they expect. He's going to be fine. I trust him 100 percent."

Not that Pryor was content with what happened last week, especially as Wisconsin sold out to stop the run, leaving opportunities for the Buckeyes to make some big plays down the field.

"It was pretty tough on him," receiver Ray Small said. "He wanted to go deep every play. He was hollering at the coaches, 'Let's go deep! Let's go deep!'

"Terrelle, he's an emotional guy."

GameDay+

 

[Buckeyecty4]

Im still puzzled as to how the offense is able to score on our defense in practice.

 

[cbrian815]

Im still puzzled as to how the offense is able to score on our defense in practice.

I am with you.....no way does our O go up and down the field on our 1st team D....and it is was this week we will hang FIFTY on Purdue......and I am really ready to see that. Go Bucks