QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

[Buckskin86]

Pryor?s lack of progression holding back Buckeye offense
By Zack Meisel
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Sunday, October 11, 2009

I admire Terrelle Pryor?s athletic ability.

I salivate over his potential, considering his 6-foot-6, 235-pound frame and supposed 4.3 40-time.

I marvel about the occasions in which he makes defenders look helpless and foolish, burning them with an atypical combination of speed and power.

But as I watch the Ohio State sophomore quarterback complete just 56 percent of his passes, while tossing six interceptions in as many games, I have doubts about whether he?ll ever reach that ceiling.

Yes, Pryor is one of the most gifted athletes to ever grace the field at Ohio Stadium. But it takes much more than athletic skill to anchor an offense in one of the nation?s most prestigious football programs.

Pryor has certainly shown glimpses of greatness.

The Lantern - Pryor’s lack of progression holding back Buckeye offense

 

[Taosman]

DL makes an interesting point that he thinks the staff should get tough with Pryor and make him do a better job all around or sit him down. Too extreme?
The bottom line is winning, so maybe the staff is willing to live with all the inconsistency or do the coaches just know more, see more than DL and all of the fans?
http://www.duanelongreport.com/2009-articles/september/wisconsin-game-thoughts.html

Would speeding things up? A" 2 minute drill offense" style help get Pryor out of over thinking?

 

[Bleed S & G]

DL makes an interesting point that he thinks the staff should get tough with Pryor and make him do a better job all around or sit him down. Too extreme?
The bottom line is winning, so maybe the staff is willing to live with all the inconsistency or do the coaches just know more, see more than DL and all of the fans?
Wisconsin Game Thoughts

Would speeding things up? A" 2 minute drill offense" style help get Pryor out of over thinking?

Not a knock on Terrelle, but, wasn't Boeckman benched and tossed under the bus after losing to USC without Beanie Wells?

I do NOT think we should bench Terrelle, I think thats the worst possible thing to do. I think 99.9% of his struggles on the field are mental mistakes, and benching the kid could be the end of his development. He does not need 100,000 coaches booing him from the stands on Saturday either.

Film, practice, game reps, and TIME is what TP needs. He's a 18/19 year old kid with a world of expectations on his shoulders - I think most of his issues are in his head and he's trying to make to much happen. He needs to play within himself, IMHO.

 

[buckeyeintn]

He does not need 100,000 coaches booing him from the stands on Saturday either.

Film, practice, game reps, and TIME is what TP needs. He's a 18/19 year old kid with a world of expectations on his shoulders - I think most of his issues are in his head and he's trying to make to much happen. He needs to play within himself, IMHO.

Can I get an Amen?

 

[Frohlich]

I would love for TP to come "evaluate" us at the office and do a little role reversal. "Didn't take very good notes in that meeting...rookie move cheese head!!!!" :tongue2:

 

[Woody1968]

I'd like to see him run more option plays. He's not a pocket passer, and I'm afraid he's regressing because of too much pressure. Before the USC game, everyone was saying that he had to be perfect or special for us to have a chance. That was bunk. He was far from perfect, and we had a chance the whole game. All he needed to do was play consistant and not make mistakes. I realize he wants to live up to his potential, but for now, the offense should be based on his strengths, and not what his potential may or may not be.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Just got done rewatching the Wisky game.

Seriously, why are people freaking out? He didn't even play bad...there was just no offensive rhythm. We gotta get the run game going before TP shows the flashes of brilliance that he is prone to show.

It's not just Terrelle...the whole offense just reeks of inconsistency. Three straight scrub games oughta get it all worked out. Hopefully this team will be clicking on all cylinders by the time that last 3 game stretch comes about, ala 2005.

My opinion exactly. It was a slow start to the game for the O. By the time they found any rhythm the D and Special Teams had decided to not let the O back on the field...

All is fine... sure, room to improve as we would (should) all expect from a younger group of guys on the offense... but really... I think you'd be hard pressed to evaluate the performance of the O based on the Wisky game.

 

[Bleed S & G]

I'd like to see him run more option plays. He's not a pocket passer, ... I realize he wants to live up to his potential, but for now, the offense should be based on his strengths, and not what his potential may or may not be.

Are people really this dense?

 

[jwinslow]

I'd like to see him run more option plays. He's not a pocket passer, ... I realize he wants to live up to his potential, but for now, the offense should be based on his strengths, and not what his potential may or may not be.

Right now, Terrelle is playing like a tentative youngster. He's hesitant as a passer and runner imo. His progress is certainly the coaches' responsibility, but there aren't a lot of ways to scheme around his shortcomings. He has to grow out of them.

 

[utgrad73]

My opinion exactly. It was a slow start to the game for the O. By the time they found any rhythm the D and Special Teams had decided to not let the O back on the field...

All is fine... sure, room to improve as we would (should) all expect from a younger group of guys on the offense... but really... I think you'd be hard pressed to evaluate the performance of the O based on the Wisky game.

Terrelle will get plenty of reps this week against the Boilers. The D and special teams are our strength at this point and I'd rather have them respected, tested and true when it comes time for the last three games. TP will find his mojo in good time, I'm a patient fan with seasons "to go before I sleep". It'll happen large very soon! (Putting the Kool Aid down now and saving some for later in the season)

 

[ThirdGenBuckeye]

Right now, Terrelle is playing like a tentative youngster. He's hesitant as a passer and runner imo. His progress is certainly the coaches' responsibility, but there aren't a lot of ways to scheme around his shortcomings. He has to grow out of them.

Exactly. There are things he will learn with reps and experiences. The physical part is there, he just needs to keep maturing mentally. He'll get there and for now they need to keep working with what they have. The coaches can only do so much for what his brain is processing on the field. I'm sure TP is trying as hard as he can on fixing that portion of his game the most.

 

[Woody1968]

Right now, Terrelle is playing like a tentative youngster. He's hesitant as a passer and runner imo. His progress is certainly the coaches' responsibility, but there aren't a lot of ways to scheme around his shortcomings. He has to grow out of them.

I disagree. I think there are ways to work around them, and that will allow him to develop without putting him in the position where he needs to win the games by himself.

 

[Woody1968]

Are people really this dense?

I guess I am. I would like to see more option plays and I don't think he's a pocket passer at this stage of the game. If that makes me dense, so be it. For the record, I would have stayed with Boeckman last year, not because I don't think TP is a good QB, but I think that Boeckman was at a disadvantage when Wells was out.

 

[jwinslow]

I disagree. I think there are ways to work around them, and that will allow him to develop without putting him in the position where he needs to win the games by himself.

That might hold more water imo if Terrelle was doing the little things properly. Which plays do you think Terrelle can run effectively right now?

If that makes me dense, so be it. For the record, I would have stayed with Boeckman last year, not because I don't think TP is a good QB, but I think that Boeckman was at a disadvantage when Wells was out.

You would have stayed with a situation which was struggling without Beanie?

The OL could not keep Todd comfortable enough in the pocket to execute.

 

[osugrad21]

I guess I am. I would like to see more option plays and I don't think he's a pocket passer at this stage of the game. If that makes me dense, so be it. For the record, I would have stayed with Boeckman last year, not because I don't think TP is a good QB, but I think that Boeckman was at a disadvantage when Wells was out.

I could definitely go for a zone read option package...the playaction package is nasty and it spreads the ball.