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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

I might have posted this earlier, but if so I'm posting it again. Pryor had a passing rating of 146.50, which had he had the minimum required amount of passes (15 per game), he would have been ranked #20 in the country in passing efficiency. His 7.94 ypa wasn't bad either and would have been ranked at #21 in the country. Not bad for a "mobile-only" true freshman thrown in as the starter in the fourth game of his career at a top-flight program...
 
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I might have posted this earlier, but if so I'm posting it again. Pryor had a passing rating of 146.50, which had he had the minimum required amount of passes (15 per game), he would have been ranked #20 in the country in passing efficiency. His 7.94 ypa wasn't bad either and would have been ranked at #21 in the country. Not bad for a "mobile-only" true freshman thrown in as the starter in the fourth game of his career at a top-flight program...
You do have to admit that it's easier to have a higher passer rating and comp. % if you attempt less passes per game. It really opens up the passing game if you hardly ever pass. So I think those numbers may have been down just a little bit had he been asked to pass more. But with that, the fact is that he didn't need to pass as much because of his ability to get all those yards on the ground he did. He wasn't the starter for 3 games this year, and he still came close to 1000 yards on the ground. So that more than makes up for it. That ability to run is going to make him more of a threat to pass when moving out of the pocket.

I guess my point is, just looking at the passing is kind of silly. Look at the whole picture. Look at the overall production. Pryor had a lot of total offense, many TDs, and turned the ball over very little. I'm not worried how he got it done, as much as the fact that he got it done. There are very few QB's in the country that would have led this Buckeye team to better than a 10-3 record (and pretty much all of them were in New York in December). Pryor produced. He is the real deal. I don't really see how it's even in question. He is the best player returning next year on this team.
 
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We need Pryor to get on the Juice Williams program. Pryor already has much better desion making then Juice probably ever will, but Juice learned how to fire balls with a ton of zip in the off seasons. If we can get Pryor to throw the ball with zip on every pass there is no slowing him down.
 
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Buckin Crazy;1391311; said:
We need Pryor to get on the Juice Williams program. Pryor already has much better desion making then Juice probably ever will, but Juice learned how to fire balls with a ton of zip in the off seasons. If we can get Pryor to throw the ball with zip on every pass there is no slowing him down.

Juice has always had a cannon. The Northwestern game showed me Pryor has plenty of arm and can put some zip on his passes.
 
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why is it all of a sudden expected that TP will have to stay all 4 years? i've seen it a few times in this thread and a few times in the tajh boyd thread. i'd imagine a qb can improve quite a bit in two years, especially with a year of starting already under his belt.
 
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fourteenandoh;1391525; said:
why is it all of a sudden expected that TP will have to stay all 4 years? i've seen it a few times in this thread and a few times in the tajh boyd thread. i'd imagine a qb can improve quite a bit in two years, especially with a year of starting already under his belt.

Some of our fans have already moved Pryor to WR.. that ought to tell us something about the line of thinking...
 
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schwab;1391527; said:
Some of our fans have already moved Pryor to WR.. that ought to tell us something about the line of thinking...

yeah, that's true. i'm not trying to argue that he will be gone in 3, but it seems like conventional wisdom has him staying all 4 years becuase he has to prove something. i'm just saying that a lot can change in two full years of practice and games.
 
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fourteenandoh;1391533; said:
yeah, that's true. i'm not trying to argue that he will be gone in 3, but it seems like conventional wisdom has him staying all 4 years becuase he has to prove something. i'm just saying that a lot can change in two full years of practice and games.

Absolutely. I can see both scenarios. I personally feel that TP is THE QB that seals the deal, so-to-speak, for the Buckeyes, and if we can get his replacement RIGHT NOW, then I think that our offense blows up and he is for sure gone after 3 years. Think of Pittman leaving because Beanie was in the wings, I think Pryor gets his ring and jets after 3 years.. with Boyd being his Beanie. Just a by-product of success, if you will..
 
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Passing is a simple catch-all here. It is not his arm...he has a strong arm. He still has a long delivery but it has been shaved progressively. He struggles with seeing and setting--he sees what is happening but it is a shade late, he realizes this and in turn does not always get those feet set and shoulders locked for a crisp delivery. Besides the Fiesta Bowl and the injury, that is why he looked better on the sprintout. Also, once a QB starts climbing levels of competition, he starts learning about placement...each pattern has a specific placement based on the coverage. Simple example: outside shoulder on the fade...never miss inside. Never throw high across the middle...miss low.

This off-season is more of a stitching session. The tools are all there. When the brain meets the body, look out.
 
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osugrad21;1391654; said:
Passing is a simple catch-all here. It is not his arm...he has a strong arm. He still has a long delivery but it has been shaved progressively. He struggles with seeing and setting--he sees what is happening but it is a shade late, he realizes this and in turn does not always get those feet set and shoulders locked for a crisp delivery. Besides the Fiesta Bowl and the injury, that is why he looked better on the sprintout. Also, once a QB starts climbing levels of competition, he starts learning about placement...each pattern has a specific placement based on the coverage. Simple example: outside shoulder on the fade...never miss inside. Never throw high across the middle...miss low.

This off-season is more of a stitching session. The tools are all there. When the brain meets the body, look out.

Ah... there's a difference between being a thrower and a passer. :wink2:
 
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osugrad21;1391654; said:
Passing is a simple catch-all here. It is not his arm...he has a strong arm. He still has a long delivery but it has been shaved progressively. He struggles with seeing and setting--he sees what is happening but it is a shade late, he realizes this and in turn does not always get those feet set and shoulders locked for a crisp delivery. Besides the Fiesta Bowl and the injury, that is why he looked better on the sprintout. Also, once a QB starts climbing levels of competition, he starts learning about placement...each pattern has a specific placement based on the coverage. Simple example: outside shoulder on the fade...never miss inside. Never throw high across the middle...miss low.

This off-season is more of a stitching session. The tools are all there. When the brain meets the body, look out.

Well put.
 
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Sorry but I do not want Pryor to be anything like Juice Williams. Pryor is leaps and bounds better than Juice Williams was a freshmen. Juice Williams has gotten worse because he is trying to be pure passer rather than play his game. People keep forgetting Pryor was a true freshmen. Now if he doesn't seem to improve going into next season then we may have a problem but IMO he will get much better.
 
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brutus2002;1391905; said:
Sorry but I do not want Pryor to be anything like Juice Williams. Pryor is leaps and bounds better than Juice Williams was a freshmen. Juice Williams has gotten worse because he is trying to be pure passer rather than play his game. People keep forgetting Pryor was a true freshmen. Now if he doesn't seem to improve going into next season then we may have a problem but IMO he will get much better.

I think people just want him to have a strong arm and start putting a lot of zip on the ball.
 
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