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lvbuckeye;685147; said:
I know he's a Bengals fan but thought it was kind of out of line to put heat on the Browns like that.
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Thump;685152; said:
I would never wish the Cleveland Browns organization on Troy Smith, or any college football player that I am a fan of, for that matter.
I want Troy to enjoy a long, successful NFL career, and the best way to do that would be to stay as far away from the Browns O-Line, coaching staff and ownership as possible.
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Okinawa's#1Buck
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Dryden;685166; said:
How about BQ to the Browns?
Muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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BuckeyeBlitz04
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Congrats goes out to Troy and The Ohio State University for him getting the Heisman!
In my opinion, the Browns should worry about the O-line and D-line before they take any offensive players. I believe Troy Smith wouldn't be a good fit due to their O-line struggles. Frye and Anderson are getting killed due to the lack of a quality line. No one wants that to happen to Troy.
In my opinion, the Browns should worry about the O-line and D-line before they take any offensive players. I believe Troy Smith wouldn't be a good fit due to their O-line struggles. Frye and Anderson are getting killed due to the lack of a quality line. No one wants that to happen to Troy.
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Maxwell and Unitas Awards ... Thanks for playing.
[SIZE=-2]By Pete Fiutak
[/SIZE]1. This is not an anti-Brady Quinn or Notre Dame hating rant. This is a why-the-awards-are-occasionally-a-fat-load-of-bull-muffins beef.
The Unitas Award is supposed to go to the best senior quarterback in America, while the Maxwell Award is supposed to go to the college football player of the year.
Each award has now been rendered irrelevant and meaningless after Quinn won them both.
Why was Smith the winner of the Heisman Trophy by one of the largest margins ever? Why did Quinn fall to third in the Heisman race behind Darren McFadden and Smith? It's because Smith was, unquestionably, 2006's signature college football player. Quinn will be the first pick in the NFL draft, but that has absolutely nothing to do with college football awards.
If you want to argue that McFadden was the best player in the nation, you'd be wrong, but I'd listen. If you want to say Hawaii's Colt Brennan was the nation's best quarterback because of his numbers, you could at least make a case. But for Quinn to win not just the player of the year, but the best senior quarterback honor is wrong and embarrassing.
The numbers were certainly nice, and Quinn was brilliant in comebacks against Michigan State and UCLA, but in Notre Dame's two big games of the year against Michigan and USC, Quinn didn't lead his team to wins, and wasn't even close. Smith finished the season fourth in the nation in passing efficiency while Quinn was 14th.
Come on voters, be smarter, and better than that.
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How to turn around your career
[SIZE=-1]By [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]John Harris[/SIZE]
5. His name was Tommy. He was the best football player I ever played with or against. He locked down receivers, ran like a deer and could do just about anything on a football field. He was the type of player that played on Sundays, he was that good. I thought that, but everyone thought that. After a strong first year at junior college, Oklahoma was all over him, but then it was over. For whatever reason. Maybe a multitude of reasons. He never made it to Norman or anywhere else.
You know someone just like Tommy. Star of the neighborhood. Stud in high school. You?re thinking of that guy right now. Invariably, you shake your head because The Man let ?circumstances? take him down, no matter what they were. There might not be anything worse in sports than an athlete letting it all go down the drain.
That was Troy Smith. It wasn?t going down the drain ? it was already there. When he was younger as his mother struggled being a youthful maternal figure. When he left school after a blatant elbow in a high school basketball game got him kicked off the team. If you knew Troy at that time, how many could see it spiraling down the drain? Then, he earns a scholly to Ohio State ? he?s made it, right? You tell me ? he takes $500 from a booster, making him ineligible for the Alamo Bowl a month after a sublime performance against Michigan in 2004, rendering him persona non grata alongside The 2002 star recruit, some guy named Maurice. He was just another Man, just like Clarett, headed for the ?Another Talent Wasted? pile.
But, the Great Ones eventually get it. Smith got it and looked what happened. No matter what happens in Glendale, he?s a legend in Ohio State lore. Move over Spielman. Step aside Eddie. Here comes Troy. He got it. He absorbed his past and was honest about his transgressions, vowing to never let any of it happen again, turning his life around in the process. Smith became the Man whose story will be told to every talented wayward youth in America. ?You can be just like Troy if you??. That?s the best part of the Troy Smith story and one he?ll never perhaps be able to fully comprehend. He taught a nation of followers and young players that you?re the only person who can derail yourself. As much as he tried, he kept his train on the track. You can, too.
Maxwell and Unitas Awards ... Thanks for playing.
[SIZE=-2]By Pete Fiutak
[/SIZE]1. This is not an anti-Brady Quinn or Notre Dame hating rant. This is a why-the-awards-are-occasionally-a-fat-load-of-bull-muffins beef.
The Unitas Award is supposed to go to the best senior quarterback in America, while the Maxwell Award is supposed to go to the college football player of the year.
Each award has now been rendered irrelevant and meaningless after Quinn won them both.
Why was Smith the winner of the Heisman Trophy by one of the largest margins ever? Why did Quinn fall to third in the Heisman race behind Darren McFadden and Smith? It's because Smith was, unquestionably, 2006's signature college football player. Quinn will be the first pick in the NFL draft, but that has absolutely nothing to do with college football awards.
If you want to argue that McFadden was the best player in the nation, you'd be wrong, but I'd listen. If you want to say Hawaii's Colt Brennan was the nation's best quarterback because of his numbers, you could at least make a case. But for Quinn to win not just the player of the year, but the best senior quarterback honor is wrong and embarrassing.
The numbers were certainly nice, and Quinn was brilliant in comebacks against Michigan State and UCLA, but in Notre Dame's two big games of the year against Michigan and USC, Quinn didn't lead his team to wins, and wasn't even close. Smith finished the season fourth in the nation in passing efficiency while Quinn was 14th.
Come on voters, be smarter, and better than that.
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How to turn around your career
[SIZE=-1]By [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]John Harris[/SIZE]
5. His name was Tommy. He was the best football player I ever played with or against. He locked down receivers, ran like a deer and could do just about anything on a football field. He was the type of player that played on Sundays, he was that good. I thought that, but everyone thought that. After a strong first year at junior college, Oklahoma was all over him, but then it was over. For whatever reason. Maybe a multitude of reasons. He never made it to Norman or anywhere else.
You know someone just like Tommy. Star of the neighborhood. Stud in high school. You?re thinking of that guy right now. Invariably, you shake your head because The Man let ?circumstances? take him down, no matter what they were. There might not be anything worse in sports than an athlete letting it all go down the drain.
That was Troy Smith. It wasn?t going down the drain ? it was already there. When he was younger as his mother struggled being a youthful maternal figure. When he left school after a blatant elbow in a high school basketball game got him kicked off the team. If you knew Troy at that time, how many could see it spiraling down the drain? Then, he earns a scholly to Ohio State ? he?s made it, right? You tell me ? he takes $500 from a booster, making him ineligible for the Alamo Bowl a month after a sublime performance against Michigan in 2004, rendering him persona non grata alongside The 2002 star recruit, some guy named Maurice. He was just another Man, just like Clarett, headed for the ?Another Talent Wasted? pile.
But, the Great Ones eventually get it. Smith got it and looked what happened. No matter what happens in Glendale, he?s a legend in Ohio State lore. Move over Spielman. Step aside Eddie. Here comes Troy. He got it. He absorbed his past and was honest about his transgressions, vowing to never let any of it happen again, turning his life around in the process. Smith became the Man whose story will be told to every talented wayward youth in America. ?You can be just like Troy if you??. That?s the best part of the Troy Smith story and one he?ll never perhaps be able to fully comprehend. He taught a nation of followers and young players that you?re the only person who can derail yourself. As much as he tried, he kept his train on the track. You can, too.
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Troy Smith: An Uncontroversial Heisman Winner
By Matt Zemek
Staff Columnist
Posted Dec 9, 2006
Yes, it's official: Troy Smith ran away with the 2006 Heisman Trophy on Saturday night. But even in the wake of this landslide at the ballot box, some are still not convinced the Ohio State quarterback deserved the award. They need to be spoken to.
The Heisman is an award routinely shrouded in controversy, so much so that in the 21st century to date, one could legitimately say that most of the seven Heisman votes have been improper ones. Rex Grossman (2001), Larry Fitzgerald (2003), Jason White (2004) and Vince Young (2005) deserved Heismans more than the competitors who beat them in those four seasons. Yes, it's just one person's opinion, but the point is that one could have made very vigorous and legitimate arguments for those four candidates. Firestorms are rather constant companions of Heisman awards ceremonies and their eventual outcomes.
What is surprising, then, is that in this suspense-less Heisman year, a small vut vocal anti-Smith minority has managed to sustain its voice throughout the season. Wounded by an awareness of media manipulation in seasons past, these folks think that Ohio State-Michigan hype and the preference for a senior quarterback on the No. 1 team in the country have once again blinded Heisman voters to the truly deserving recipient of the award: Darren McFadden for most anti-Smith zealots, and Brady Quinn for those in the Notre Dame community.
While it's certainly true that media-fed hype surrounding the Ohio State-Michigan game clearly affected the BCS title game debate this season, the charge of bias against the mighty media wurlitzer simply doesn't carry water as a reason to deny Troy Smith the Heisman. If you boil the race down to Smith and his two foremost competitors, McFadden and Quinn, it's hard--if not impossible--to make the case for anyone other than, as they might say in Columbus, "The Best Damn Quarterback In The Land.
Brady Quinn has big numbers, but his resume can't begin to stack up to Smith's portfolio on the basis of one simple fact: Quinn's two big, sexy spotlight games involved thoroughly insufficient efforts against Michigan and USC. Sure, his defense and receivers didn't help him out in either contest, but just the same, Quinn didn't--and couldn't--perform the way Heisman winners do. Quinn couldn't rise above the moment to elevate his team and teammates to another level in a high-stakes battle. A Heisman winner has to have a signature triumph--a memorable play or performance in a showcase game--to even be considered for the award in the first place. By this standard, Quinn fell woefully short.
This leaves Darren McFadden, the man with a somewhat credible--but ultimately inferior--case when placed against Troy Smith.
McFadden's performances against Auburn, South Carolina, Tennessee and LSU provide a body of work in big-time games that commands considerable respect. That the running back excelled on occasion as a passer and receiver merits even more attention from the college football world. Helping Arkansas to an SEC West title stands as an achievement that enables McFadden to be viewed as a player who did lift his team to a higher level. Up and down the line, McFadden makes the cut as a player worthy of winning the Heisman.
The difference, then, between McFadden and Troy Smith concerns the issue of dominance. McFadden occasionally dominated ballgames in his team's unexpected run to the SEC Championship Game. Troy Smith, however, was much more consistent in his ability to take control of a pigskin crucible over the course of the 2006 season.
It's instructive to note that with the exception of Arkansas' close-shave loss to LSU in late November, McFadden dominated only when his teammate, receiver Marcus Monk, had a good game. Most of the time, Arkansas' offense didn't do much when either Mitch Mustain or Casey Dick weren't effective at quarterback. Yes, offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn did a masterful job of camouflaging his quarterbacks' weaknesses this past season in Fayetteville, but on an overall level, Arkansas' offense was not a genuine juggernaut on a regular basis.
Ohio State's offense, on the other hand, was.
The Ohio State and Arkansas offenses were inversely effective this season. For the Hogs, there were a few brilliant performances against a backdrop of inconsistency. For the Buckeyes' attack, on the other hand, the potent portraits of pigskin production outnumbered the sluggish slogs through a so-so Saturday. While McFadden found a second half finishing kick, it's worth noting that the Hogs didn't get their offense in gear until October. By this point in the season, Troy Smith had already presided over impressive road wins in much-hyped games at Texas and Iowa. Solid against the Longhorns and prolific against the Hawkeyes, Smith displayed a combination of athleticism, leadership, and mental mastery that enabled Ohio State's talents to spill out in full flower on the green fields of Autumn. Against Penn State, Cincinnati and Illinois, the Bucks didn't impress or amaze. But in just about every other game from this past season, Troy Smith unlocked the gifts residing inside every member of the Ohio State offense... including Smith himself. Minnesota, Michigan State, Northwestern, Indiana--these games in the meat of OSU's schedule were not listless walk-throughs, but dominant victories that formed the backbone of a Heisman-worthy season. While McFadden's year was one-third excellence and two-thirds solidity, one could fairly say that the proportions were exactly the opposite for Smith, who was more consistently dominant than his competitor from Arkansas.
Some Heisman years are controversial, and media manipulation often looms large in the history of an award with often shaky credibility. This, however, is not one of those suspect seasons in Heisman history. Darren McFadden is worthy of the award, but only Troy Smith deserved to win it in 2006.
Troy Smith: An Uncontroversial Heisman Winner
By Matt Zemek
Staff Columnist
Posted Dec 9, 2006
Yes, it's official: Troy Smith ran away with the 2006 Heisman Trophy on Saturday night. But even in the wake of this landslide at the ballot box, some are still not convinced the Ohio State quarterback deserved the award. They need to be spoken to.
The Heisman is an award routinely shrouded in controversy, so much so that in the 21st century to date, one could legitimately say that most of the seven Heisman votes have been improper ones. Rex Grossman (2001), Larry Fitzgerald (2003), Jason White (2004) and Vince Young (2005) deserved Heismans more than the competitors who beat them in those four seasons. Yes, it's just one person's opinion, but the point is that one could have made very vigorous and legitimate arguments for those four candidates. Firestorms are rather constant companions of Heisman awards ceremonies and their eventual outcomes.
What is surprising, then, is that in this suspense-less Heisman year, a small vut vocal anti-Smith minority has managed to sustain its voice throughout the season. Wounded by an awareness of media manipulation in seasons past, these folks think that Ohio State-Michigan hype and the preference for a senior quarterback on the No. 1 team in the country have once again blinded Heisman voters to the truly deserving recipient of the award: Darren McFadden for most anti-Smith zealots, and Brady Quinn for those in the Notre Dame community.
While it's certainly true that media-fed hype surrounding the Ohio State-Michigan game clearly affected the BCS title game debate this season, the charge of bias against the mighty media wurlitzer simply doesn't carry water as a reason to deny Troy Smith the Heisman. If you boil the race down to Smith and his two foremost competitors, McFadden and Quinn, it's hard--if not impossible--to make the case for anyone other than, as they might say in Columbus, "The Best Damn Quarterback In The Land.
Brady Quinn has big numbers, but his resume can't begin to stack up to Smith's portfolio on the basis of one simple fact: Quinn's two big, sexy spotlight games involved thoroughly insufficient efforts against Michigan and USC. Sure, his defense and receivers didn't help him out in either contest, but just the same, Quinn didn't--and couldn't--perform the way Heisman winners do. Quinn couldn't rise above the moment to elevate his team and teammates to another level in a high-stakes battle. A Heisman winner has to have a signature triumph--a memorable play or performance in a showcase game--to even be considered for the award in the first place. By this standard, Quinn fell woefully short.
This leaves Darren McFadden, the man with a somewhat credible--but ultimately inferior--case when placed against Troy Smith.
McFadden's performances against Auburn, South Carolina, Tennessee and LSU provide a body of work in big-time games that commands considerable respect. That the running back excelled on occasion as a passer and receiver merits even more attention from the college football world. Helping Arkansas to an SEC West title stands as an achievement that enables McFadden to be viewed as a player who did lift his team to a higher level. Up and down the line, McFadden makes the cut as a player worthy of winning the Heisman.
The difference, then, between McFadden and Troy Smith concerns the issue of dominance. McFadden occasionally dominated ballgames in his team's unexpected run to the SEC Championship Game. Troy Smith, however, was much more consistent in his ability to take control of a pigskin crucible over the course of the 2006 season.
It's instructive to note that with the exception of Arkansas' close-shave loss to LSU in late November, McFadden dominated only when his teammate, receiver Marcus Monk, had a good game. Most of the time, Arkansas' offense didn't do much when either Mitch Mustain or Casey Dick weren't effective at quarterback. Yes, offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn did a masterful job of camouflaging his quarterbacks' weaknesses this past season in Fayetteville, but on an overall level, Arkansas' offense was not a genuine juggernaut on a regular basis.
Ohio State's offense, on the other hand, was.
The Ohio State and Arkansas offenses were inversely effective this season. For the Hogs, there were a few brilliant performances against a backdrop of inconsistency. For the Buckeyes' attack, on the other hand, the potent portraits of pigskin production outnumbered the sluggish slogs through a so-so Saturday. While McFadden found a second half finishing kick, it's worth noting that the Hogs didn't get their offense in gear until October. By this point in the season, Troy Smith had already presided over impressive road wins in much-hyped games at Texas and Iowa. Solid against the Longhorns and prolific against the Hawkeyes, Smith displayed a combination of athleticism, leadership, and mental mastery that enabled Ohio State's talents to spill out in full flower on the green fields of Autumn. Against Penn State, Cincinnati and Illinois, the Bucks didn't impress or amaze. But in just about every other game from this past season, Troy Smith unlocked the gifts residing inside every member of the Ohio State offense... including Smith himself. Minnesota, Michigan State, Northwestern, Indiana--these games in the meat of OSU's schedule were not listless walk-throughs, but dominant victories that formed the backbone of a Heisman-worthy season. While McFadden's year was one-third excellence and two-thirds solidity, one could fairly say that the proportions were exactly the opposite for Smith, who was more consistently dominant than his competitor from Arkansas.
Some Heisman years are controversial, and media manipulation often looms large in the history of an award with often shaky credibility. This, however, is not one of those suspect seasons in Heisman history. Darren McFadden is worthy of the award, but only Troy Smith deserved to win it in 2006.
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JoJaBuckeye
First we take Michigan--then the whole world!
I notice now that the Brady Quinn For God apologists can't whine about the HT anymore, they're now saying BQ will go before Troy in the draft.
As far as I know, BQ has only one claim to fame: his sister is married to A.J. Hawk. Oh...and I think he plays football somewhere.
As far as I know, BQ has only one claim to fame: his sister is married to A.J. Hawk. Oh...and I think he plays football somewhere.
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Yes and no. Brees has had the good fortune of having coaches in both San Diego and New Orleans who knew how to utilize him. Having backs like Tomlinson, Bush, and McAllister makes a QB's life easier too.ScarletBlood31;684808; said:
Troy could go to Cleveland or Houston and he'd be considered a bust, or he could go to Miami or Jacksonville where there is a head coach with a clue and a lot of pieces to build with and be a Pro Bowler.
It's a total crapshoot.
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JoJaBuckeye
First we take Michigan--then the whole world!
Steve19;633382; said:
The same Archie Manning who gets miffed if his sons don't get to pick the NFL team their little hearts desire?
Screw him. Pretty Boy Quinn will have people talking him up throughout his meaningless do-nothing life. It will finally occur to him in old age that he shoulda been a male model for Calvin Klein.
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http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=158040Brown's SportingBlog
It's great to see a real winner win the Heisman
December 11, 2006
Troy Smith's exploits on the gridiron certainly put him head and shoulders above the competition in winning the Heisman this past weekend.
The head of the unbeaten and top-ranked Ohio State Buckeyes was money in big games, playing superbly in games over ranked teams, including previously second-ranked Michigan. But the champion that he is in the game of life has earned my ultimate respect. He overcame a difficult childhood in a rough neighborhood that saw his mom out of his life as a youngster for a four-year period, battling her own demons, and Smith living with a foster family. Reuniting with his mom, Troy -- though he stumbled a few times -- was determined to make it. He's reached the pinnacle on individual success, with the chance of a national title. Something tells me the best is yet to come.
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=158040Brown's SportingBlog
It's great to see a real winner win the Heisman
December 11, 2006
Troy Smith's exploits on the gridiron certainly put him head and shoulders above the competition in winning the Heisman this past weekend.
The head of the unbeaten and top-ranked Ohio State Buckeyes was money in big games, playing superbly in games over ranked teams, including previously second-ranked Michigan. But the champion that he is in the game of life has earned my ultimate respect. He overcame a difficult childhood in a rough neighborhood that saw his mom out of his life as a youngster for a four-year period, battling her own demons, and Smith living with a foster family. Reuniting with his mom, Troy -- though he stumbled a few times -- was determined to make it. He's reached the pinnacle on individual success, with the chance of a national title. Something tells me the best is yet to come.
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lovin_bobby42
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Elation! That's the best way to describe my feelings Saturday night after hearing Troy's name!!! What a great feeling!!... To have the Number 1 team all season, Beat michigan, Win a spot in the Championship Game & our beloved quarterback winning the Heisman!!!!!
WE LOVE YOU TROY! GO BUCKS!!
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WE LOVE YOU TROY! GO BUCKS!!
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scarletngrey11
All right, all right, all right.
One of the best damn articles I have ever read.
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