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That goes against the premise that most Ds are trying to take away 4 and willing to give up the run.
Still should be able to hit some quick throws like outs or JS beating his man on a quick inside move.
The long routes with our Oline is begging for protection issues for our QBs. Need to change it up.
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They are willing to give up some run- it doesn't mean they never load the box.
IU shut the run game down AND took away the explosive pass plays.
USC can't stop the run so not sure they tried that hard but they also took away the explosive pass game.
Both did it different ways. IU knew to pressure Sayin, USC just kind of let Fahey and the rest shoot themselves in the foot.
Bottom line is this:
| Ohio State passing | Indiana | USC |
|---|---|---|
| EPA/dropback | −0.03 | −0.04 |
| Passing success rate | 43% | 45% |
| EPA without explosive passes | −0.37 | −0.26 |
They can stop the run AND take away the explosive passing without needing crazy IU level pressure.
The path to win is Can Fahey's legs get worked into to really throw them a curve ball? And/Or can he tear them up with his second/3rd reads?
Asking him to drop back, get good protecting and chuck it deep to 4 could work but the odds are getting slimmer as teams see the blue print.
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I can’t see where he will have the time to get to 2nd and 3rd level reads. The right side of the line doesn’t have the ability to protect him for very long even with a TE helping.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Maybe we’ll see in game adjustments, but I’m not going to hold my breath.
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knuckifyoubuck
Heisman
Look at the pressures from USC, Fahey just handled it better with mobility.
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2-3 OL whiffed in the redzone, but Luke stepped up nicely and found Bell for a TD. The pass could have been better, the catching could have been better. I like their chances of improving upon that. You can't teach that feel or playmaking ability. You can get more on the same page and have both keep their feet underneath them, figuratively and literally.
Fahey's feet also buys time for some of the longer routes that Boyd has sometimes been asked to run (and Day seems to prefer).
McCuin took a step in this game. They don't need another top-10 pick at WR to win out (Henry may become that but not in a week). They need Xavier Johnson and KJ Hill.
One of the better things Arthur did in this game was have a few check downs. They were struggling to get 4 going. They faked a screen look to him, looked downfield, and then came back to him in the flat. Sark and Riley do a nice job with these check down outlets (relying on them too much sometimes).
I'd like to see them run that to legend bey (or west/jackson too).
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I am with @jwinslow before- I thought I saw some very positive check down/outlet stuff from Fahey that wasn't there before with Sayin. I agree with you in that if they just drop him 7 yards and chuck it deep then fuck straight off- we will get killed.
Day isn't that bad of a coach is my simple belief on that topic.
Agreed. I am not doom and glooming this, just trying to paint an accurate picture of reality the best I can see it. Fahey can hurt people too.
If you are the opposing DC you have to be really careful of going too far with anything because to really take away 4, you have to cheat like mad and in so doing, open your throat to a bunch of guys who are at OSU for a reason. They can play.
OSU plays a clean game, or its cleanest game it can, and you have a different kind of QB with that monster still lurking out there in your secondary. You have to be really, really careful.
The self inflicted stuff is the killer and I am just not sure how clean we ever get it. Special teams puts us in long fields, penalties stall drives and lack of top end breakaway talent at RB keeps us in a box even if the deficient OL/TE blocking does create a gap. That is the game shape working against OSU.
A talented and more mobile QB moving around and finding the guys you have to leave open to try and cover the 4 monster is the game shape that works against the opponents.
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I thought Fahey plated fairly well. Penalties in the red zone, along with play calls, made things more difficult.
The only issue I really had with his performance was throwing the ball high through the end zone on 4th down and on the 2-point attempt. He’s young, but there should be a voice in his helmet before those plays letting him know that the normal ball security concerns are not in effect on 4th down and 2-point attempts, in those situations the ball needs to be touched by somebody in the end zone.
The only issue I really had with his performance was throwing the ball high through the end zone on 4th down and on the 2-point attempt. He’s young, but there should be a voice in his helmet before those plays letting him know that the normal ball security concerns are not in effect on 4th down and 2-point attempts, in those situations the ball needs to be touched by somebody in the end zone.
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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
He wasn't the issue for sure. A couple games in there will probably be a noticeable difference with him syncing up with the WR's and their getting used to his throws.
I think the biggest issue is Day needs to just let him throw over the middle to JJ, and have more trust in him. When the kid was playing aggressive he had more control.
The only thing about his game was how inaccurate he was in the red zone. The ball was too fast and too high. Obviously rushed. That needs to improve fast.
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