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QB Dwayne Haskins Jr. (All B1G, B1G OPOY, Silver Football, Rose Bowl MVP, R.I.P.)

Haskins is not a read option QB. We have seen that the last few weeks. Alter the offence to fit his skill set. I believe someone mentioned it a few days back, they should run a similar to the one that Herman ran during the National Championship run with Cardale at QB and the Bucks will be just fine next year.
 
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Haskins is not a read option QB. We have seen that the last few weeks. Alter the offence to fit his skill set. I believe someone mentioned it a few days back, they should run a similar to the one that Herman ran during the National Championship run with Cardale at QB and the Bucks will be just fine next year.

That worked well in 2014 in part because opponents didn't have a lot of time to prepare for it.

Then we saw 2015 come along and over the course of a season, Cardale couldn't run the offense as well as JT could.

Granted, Beck, but it's still something to be aware of. Meyer's safety blanket is the QB run, taking that away could be either really good or really bad.
 
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That worked well in 2014 in part because opponents didn't have a lot of time to prepare for it.

Then we saw 2015 come along and over the course of a season, Cardale couldn't run the offense as well as JT could.

Granted, Beck, but it's still something to be aware of. Meyer's safety blanket is the QB run, taking that away could be either really good or really bad.
Those QB trap up the middle, or fake the handoff, follow the RB lead blocker plays can still be a safety blanket in short yardage situations without using read option as the basis for our RB based running game.
 
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Those QB trap up the middle, or fake the handoff, follow the RB lead blocker plays can still be a safety blanket in short yardage situations without using read option as the basis for our RB based running game.

There is always a way in terms of X's and O's and I have faith in Kevin Wilson/Ryan Day.

That said, under stress, what does Meyer do? I ask that because fundamentally, Haskins does not run the read option well at all.
 
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That worked well in 2014 in part because opponents didn't have a lot of time to prepare for it.

Then we saw 2015 come along and over the course of a season, Cardale couldn't run the offense as well as JT could.

Granted, Beck, but it's still something to be aware of. Meyer's safety blanket is the QB run, taking that away could be either really good or really bad.

Haskins is way more accurate than Cardale. The lack of accuracy was a major problem in 2015. Haskins accuracy opens up the run game even more.
 
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That worked well in 2014 in part because opponents didn't have a lot of time to prepare for it.

Then we saw 2015 come along and over the course of a season, Cardale couldn't run the offense as well as JT could.

Granted, Beck, but it's still something to be aware of. Meyer's safety blanket is the QB run, taking that away could be either really good or really bad.
Actually it worked quite poorly against Alabama, which is why many of us were on Team JT. But when he buried himself in 3rd and long all game long against Bama, Cardale threw lasers and scrambled for miles in the trilogy (he's a pretty salty scrambler unlike his designed running ability). Cardale also had a much less hungry 2015 team, no premiere deep ball WR, a lousy scheme and didn't have the luxury of facing a loafing Trey DePriest or charmin soft Oregon defense. That's not to say that he did not play really well (like the UW game), but the degree of difficulty increased considerably, especially when they got film on him like you said.
 
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All good points and believe me I am excited about Haskins.

I'm just pointing out the fundamental disconnect we are about to witness between what Meyer has always done and what he has to work with in Haskins. It could absolutely force an evolution into a higher form.

I am excited to find out.
Absolutely. And unlike some scheme changes, I think he really wants to move towards a Haskins style of scheme (maybe with Burrow's feet as a baseline).

He just had a low floor that submarined everything.
 
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JT Barrett passed like Joe Montana in the 4th quarter against Penn State but threw four interceptions trying to repeat that in Iowa.

Haskins should not be judged against yesterday, especially given the week before.

But it is intriguing to think that he just might bring out creativity and risk taking that shows why this is such a great coaching staff. That could be fun to watch.

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All good points and believe me I am excited about Haskins.

I'm just pointing out the fundamental disconnect we are about to witness between what Meyer has always done and what he has to work with in Haskins. It could absolutely force an evolution into a higher form.

I am excited to find out.
Well, there's an TE who is used like a blocking FB now and an emerging deep threat in Victor. I'd say Urbs is preparing for the shift from read option to an offense that suits JT's successor.
 
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Haskins is way more accurate than Cardale. The lack of accuracy was a major problem in 2015. Haskins accuracy opens up the run game even more.
Bingo! Haskins is a much better all around QB than Cardale at this stage of their careers. There's no comparison between the two other than big arms.

And for all of the talk of Cardale and the 2014 NC, Zeke was the reason we won that. And he opened up the offense for Cardale, not the other way around. And that's what this team needs. And you saw that yesterday, when JT went out. The story remains the same, if JT is leading rusher AND passer, against good-great teams, Osu will lose. When Haskins comes in, he's an actual QB, not an there posing as a QB. He gives the ball to RBs, and gets the ball to the outside weapons quickly, in a way JT can't. No way does JT on his best day make that throw to Mack in double coverage. Haskins' threat of his arm also opened up his rushing TD. Leaning on JK and Weber is what will make our season a success, I've been saying that since OU, and those two can make JT successful, but his ceiling is much lower than Haskins' in the passing game. And that's the difference.
 
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