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barlow1802 said:
recruiting sucked ass.

Computers dont use Blu Ray's. XBOX 360 is using HD-DVD's and Computers are starting to tap into that as well, however 360 and PS3 both have equal if not better graphics if you use a HDTV. Back to the Blu Rays. They arnt going to fail first of all because Sony, MGM, and Disney are backing their production 100%. EA signed with them as well. The HD-DVD's use 15 gigs single and 30 gigs dual layered where as the Blu Rays will use 25 and 50 gigs. I have yet to see a computer game thats 50 Gigs. Imagine not only the graphics, but the AI, Features, Game Play, etc. However, graphics do trump all, and the 360 is using 480i support for HD. The PS3 is using 1080i...I cannot wait. 480i is soon to be outdated technology whereas 1080i is going to be coming into its own here in the next 2 years.

All this talk about Blu Rays made me forget about PS3's far superior raw processing power with IBM's new "Cell" Technology which the 360 is again without. I'll sacrifice some time on the release for a kick ass console.

Ps. PS3 is still saying late spring/early summer 06.
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1) X360 does not use an HD-DVD drive, it uses a regular DVD drive. 9 gig dual-layer dvd's. They may add an HD-DVD as a peripheral down the road if necessary. Even the most immersive, long, graphics intensive games have a hard time exceeding 3-4 gigs. It's all about compression software and guess who is the software giant?

2) 480i is not High Definition and while the x360 is able to output 480i for those of you who do not have HDTV, the minimum resolution for ANY 360 game is 720p and it supports up to 1080i. What that means is it downscales the 720p image to 480i for people who cannot view the HD image.

3) Now the PS3 says they'll have dual HDMI 1080p outputs. While that sounds well and good, seems way early for such an expensive option as 1080p televisions just came out. I don't see many kids down the street playing their PS3 games at 1080p on dual screens, but maybe I'm wrong.

4) The 3 dual core processors along with the kick ass gpu the 360 has will keep all but the top 1% of all games looking exactly the same whether you play them on either console. There will not be that much of a visible difference between the two.

5) It's all about the games you like and which system carries them.
 
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i stand corrected on the hd and a few other things:biggrin: , i myself plan on buying the 1080 when the ps3 comes out.

Im not talking only graphics when it comes to the space. having that much more room for AI, maps, levels, whatever... imagine all the new features that are possible.. im talking AI in games like a halo when its single player and AI when ur playing the computer in NCAA... how incredibly HUGE the next grand theft auto will be, it wont be a city..it'll be like a region or perhaps at somepoint the entire country.. 9 gigs is alot of space but 50 gigs is out of this world and all the fans of 360 can turn it anyway they want.. 50 is greater than 9 and 50 is greater than 30.. which brings me back to one of my earlier posts..

IMO 360 will compete in terms of game development up until games AI's and maps go above and beyond 9 gigs.. and they will just as playstation one games were 700 megs now ps2 games are 5-9 gigs. 360 will sell their share of consoles and PS3 will sell theirs too.. I honestly believe in a few years ps3 will be so much more advanced than the xbox as technology continues to develop. Im not sure what the 360 comes with in terms of periphals(sp) but the ps3's list is quite impressive if you can find it.
 
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barlow1802 said:
i stand corrected on the hd and a few other things:biggrin: , i myself plan on buying the 1080 when the ps3 comes out.

Im not talking only graphics when it comes to the space. having that much more room for AI, maps, levels, whatever... imagine all the new features that are possible.. im talking AI in games like a halo when its single player and AI when ur playing the computer in NCAA... how incredibly HUGE the next grand theft auto will be, it wont be a city..it'll be like a region or perhaps at somepoint the entire country.. 9 gigs is alot of space but 50 gigs is out of this world and all the fans of 360 can turn it anyway they want.. 50 is greater than 9 and 50 is greater than 30.. which brings me back to one of my earlier posts..

IMO 360 will compete in terms of game development up until games AI's and maps go above and beyond 9 gigs.. and they will just as playstation one games were 700 megs now ps2 games are 5-9 gigs. 360 will sell their share of consoles and PS3 will sell theirs too.. I honestly believe in a few years ps3 will be so much more advanced than the xbox as technology continues to develop. Im not sure what the 360 comes with in terms of periphals(sp) but the ps3's list is quite impressive if you can find it.
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I don't know enough about the PS3 other than what I've read because there still are no concrete specs. I would be very surprised if all the stuff they said they were gonna pack into that thing actually makes it to production. I think they're going to come to market at least a 9-12 months later than they said(they knew they would all along) and they will see that they have to remove some stuff due to the high cost of the blu-ray. One other thing, the blu-ray drive is a 2x or 4x drive, this is a slow read speed and will cause long load times. The bigger the games the longer the loads, just something to keep in mind.

Like I said, it depends on the games you like, 360 has alot of shooters and I like those, some people like the japanese games that Playstation puts out, so it's basically a choice on taste. I think Microsoft knows what they're doing and they will be far from obsolete in 3 years. I'm sure the PS3 will be successful, but it seems more like a blu-ray guinea pig than a dedicated game system. I guess we'll see..............................
 
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barlow1802 said:
duting the interview on the video page with sonys VP he says "this is actual gameplay".. so unless he's lying or i completly heard wqrong it is
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Barlow.... You heard right. He is completely lying. When that video was put out (in May of 05) no PS3 existed. A final PS3 still doesn't exist. To this day, no one has picked up a controller and played a PS3 game on a final PS3 system.

Both systems are going to be great. I'm getting both. Hopefully I'll play the PS3 much more than I play my current PS2. Other than God of War no PS2 game has interested me in a long while. It seems like every game for the PS2 is Japanese-centric. As Justanotherbuck said, it's all about the games.
 
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Barlow.... You heard right. He is completely lying. When that video was put out (in May of 05) no PS3 existed. A final PS3 still doesn't exist. To this day, no one has picked up a controller and played a PS3 game on a final PS3 system.

Both systems are going to be great. I'm getting both. Hopefully I'll play the PS3 much more than I play my current PS2. Other than God of War no PS2 game has interested me in a long while. It seems like every game for the PS2 is Japanese-centric. As Justanotherbuck said, it's all about the games.
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so he's lying because ps3's werent released? you have no proof that there werent any ps3's or ps3 emulators around that designers have been using as well as sony. If the VP says its gameplay, and the way it looks switching into the first person mode, no crosshair, zooming in and out with a million things happening at once(watchthe entire thing if you havnt) playing like a movie may be the way the game is. If the sony VP is saying hey this is gameplay and im not kidding(because he says that hee's not joking) perhaps ps3 is that sick. perhaps not. perhaps the cell and blu-ray will explode in flames, perhaps they will be this disgusting and gameplay will be this awesome and feel like playing in real life. i guess we'll wait and see, but i'll take the vp of sonys word over someone reading the same articles and updates that i am. no offense to you up above, just trying to state my side of the argument.. time will tell. and the game in general looks nuts.
 
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Looks like I'm going to have to go article hunting because I can GUARANTEE you that the video you are referring to is not game play. It is prerendered footage of what they 'expect' to reach. The emulator was released 2 months before E3... you can't create that in 2 months. Sony has a pretty large history of telling lies also. Perhaps you forgot all the promises they made about their plans for a Xbox Live killer for the PS2 that were never even attempted. Why do you think they haven't shown any more footage, because they've buried themselves in a hole by claiming that footage was real game play. Many months later and they still can't reach what they did nearly a year ago.... so they are just keeping quite hoping to have enough people believing 'what if' that they can release a system that is at most SLIGHTLY more power (Not even close to the difference that the Xbox 1 had over PS2) because if the people have waited long enough based on lies then they figure they might as well wait a couple of months to see them both released.

Although once again you won't want to take just my word, so later tonight i'll put some articles up to give more support to this being the case. Have to head to class for now though....
 
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I just hope all of the PS2 fans arn't so quick to forgive Sony when this game turns out to be crap, just like the first one was.

Well I'm not sure who's word you'll beleive over the Sony VP but here you go...

Watch this clip from SpikeTV's Game Head show....the guy from Blur Studios says he was actually asked to do the CGI movie for Killzone last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=SWo3Memcbxs
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I can look for more, but it is pretty much common knowledge since a few weeks after E3 that Sony was lieing.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1820465,00.asp

The real whopper was the video reel. It was introduced with a statement like "Here are some franchises coming to PlayStation 3," with no mention that what we would see actually resembles the games in any way. Game journalists flipped out. The 800-pound gorilla of these demo reels was a video of Killzone 2. It has been the subject of much contention whether or not this video was pre-rendered or made in the game engine. Game journalists who should know better insisted that it was real gameplay footage. Then Sony came out and claimed it was, too.<!--PIC E3 killzone 2.jpg TITLE Killzone 2 (rendered footage) CAPTION</b> Killzone 2 wowed everyone at the Sony conference so much, they forgot to question whether it was pre-rendered footage or not. It was.--> <!-- start ziffimage //--> <!-- end ziffimage //--> Of course, it's not. It was way too good for real-time, and would have represented a game that's much further along in its development than any PS3 game I know of. It turns out that Axis Animation, the guys who did some video for the original Killzone, made the video. We've since found out that all that supposed game footage--almost the entire game demo reel at the end of the presentation--was pre-rendered video "made to spec." That means rendered in LightWave or 3ds max or something, but limiting yourself to the polygon count or texture memory of the final platform. We've heard this all before, and we know that the final games never look even remotely close to the "rendered to spec" videos.
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/20/news_6126204.html
What we heard: When the lights at Monday's PlayStation 3 demo came up, the audience picked up their jaws off the floor--and began wagging their tongues. Like a game version of the Kennedy assassination. It quickly split into two camps: those that thought the demo was pre-rendered, making it essentially computer animation, or whether it was rendered in real time, which means it would be close graphically to actual gameplay. The fires of speculation were fueled further by the ambiguous comments of Jan-Bart Van Beek, Game Director of the PS3 Killzone at Guerrilla Games, to the official PlayStation UK site."It's basically a representation of the look and feel of the game we're trying to make," he said. Then a post on the Eurogamer forums laid out a tantalizing conspiracy--that Axis Animation, the same Scottish computer animation company that made a cinematic to the first Killzone, had been working on the E3 demo for months as straight-up CG. So how does Sony respond to the allegations? Far from being evasive, they met them head-on. "Yes, it is real time," a rep told GameSpot.
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"Delayed" (Assuming you ever beleived in the first place it'd be coming out....


TOKYO (Nikkei)--Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. will delay the release of its PlayStation 3 next-generation video game console until early November because the copy protection technology for the Blu-ray Disc has not been finalized, The Nihon Keizai Shimbun learned Tuesday.

November in Japan... I'm willing to bet it doesn't come out before X-Mas in the United States. Giving the 360 two christmas's without competition.
 
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