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I'd gladly wait another year past the pre establish ETA.
I'm happy with the PS2 still. Waiting another year for the PS3 is fine with me. Plus it gives another year of technology gap between the Xbox and Sony.
And from the sounds of that article...neither one has it figured it out very well yet.
"Most of the problems of getting these systems running on these multicore processors are not solved. They are doctoral theses, not known implementation problems. So it's not even clear that over the lifespan of these next generation systems that they will be solved problems. The amount of time it takes to get a good multicore engine running, the Xbox 360 might not even be on the market any longer. That should scare the crap out of everybody."
That's enough for me to WANT to wait to see how it pans out.
I'm happy with the PS2 still. Waiting another year for the PS3 is fine with me. Plus it gives another year of technology gap between the Xbox and Sony.
And from the sounds of that article...neither one has it figured it out very well yet.
"Most of the problems of getting these systems running on these multicore processors are not solved. They are doctoral theses, not known implementation problems. So it's not even clear that over the lifespan of these next generation systems that they will be solved problems. The amount of time it takes to get a good multicore engine running, the Xbox 360 might not even be on the market any longer. That should scare the crap out of everybody."
That's enough for me to WANT to wait to see how it pans out.
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I'm an xbox fanboy, but this doesn't surprise me. Reportedly they were going to be very rushed to get it out soon, for whatever reason.
This article sounds like its written by a Sony fan. I agree PS3 may end up with a better overall lineup of games if it waits a couple extra years for release... that's obvious.
What he's ignoring is that many gamers aren't going to make a calculated decision when buying this. They want to play EA sports' titles year round in HDTV, high quality gaming. Sony can talk all they want about their well-rounded lineup, a large portion of the market cannot wait on that principle.
I could see some buying both, but I have a hard time seeing people waiting around for a "lineup."
This article sounds like its written by a Sony fan. I agree PS3 may end up with a better overall lineup of games if it waits a couple extra years for release... that's obvious.
What he's ignoring is that many gamers aren't going to make a calculated decision when buying this. They want to play EA sports' titles year round in HDTV, high quality gaming. Sony can talk all they want about their well-rounded lineup, a large portion of the market cannot wait on that principle.
I could see some buying both, but I have a hard time seeing people waiting around for a "lineup."
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BrutusMaximus
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I have owned an 2 ps2's and an xbox. Had a ps2 first, traded it in on an xbox about a year ago. NCAA 2005 came out, ran like absolute shit on the xbox, not to mention that the PS2 controller just absolutely owns the xbox controller. Traded the xbox back in a month ago or so on another PS2, got ncaa 2006........god I missed my ps2 :)
I dont think i am gonna get a next gen system for a while, dont have enough time to play games as much nowadays.
I dont think i am gonna get a next gen system for a while, dont have enough time to play games as much nowadays.
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It should be noted that the 2005 version of NCAA for xbox might go down in history as the worst port of all time. When playing games that were ported well, like Madden, the differences were apparent. It's sad that EA's lazy programmers have further confirmed the Xbox blows rumor.
I've played a ton of sports games and action games on both consoles. For a while, Sony did have the market cornered on gaming. That has changed a lot in the past few years. It's not a fair fight, b/c the Sony is an older console and not capable of competing with newer technology plus a hard drive.
Have you guys played other consoles very often (as in, me playing ps2 or bmax playing xbox)? In college, we used to play dynasties all of the time as a group, and every sport was better on xbox (we didn't play CFB, not as useful for many people without playoffs). Tons of ps2 lovers hated the xbox controller but got used to it playing 8-16 person lan games of halo on my dorm floor. With how often we did big group games and online gaming there was no comparison.
Trying to get back on topic... it should be interesting to see how this plays out. Not only will Xbox be featuring the big sports names for the casual gamer, but Sony's meager online play will be even more inferior. Then once PS3 comes out, it will apparently have superior performance, more quality titles (2+ extra years to develop for programmers)... and a much improved online system.
I've played a ton of sports games and action games on both consoles. For a while, Sony did have the market cornered on gaming. That has changed a lot in the past few years. It's not a fair fight, b/c the Sony is an older console and not capable of competing with newer technology plus a hard drive.
Have you guys played other consoles very often (as in, me playing ps2 or bmax playing xbox)? In college, we used to play dynasties all of the time as a group, and every sport was better on xbox (we didn't play CFB, not as useful for many people without playoffs). Tons of ps2 lovers hated the xbox controller but got used to it playing 8-16 person lan games of halo on my dorm floor. With how often we did big group games and online gaming there was no comparison.
Trying to get back on topic... it should be interesting to see how this plays out. Not only will Xbox be featuring the big sports names for the casual gamer, but Sony's meager online play will be even more inferior. Then once PS3 comes out, it will apparently have superior performance, more quality titles (2+ extra years to develop for programmers)... and a much improved online system.
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BrutusMaximus
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I tried and tried, but I hate the xbox controller. What a gay layout. Also in regards to Halo.......I cannot bring myself to play a game like that on any console. A console is not meant for FPS games. Keyboard and mouse are far and away better. In fact I hated Halo until they released it on PC, then I loved it :)
I do agree with the online world belonging to the Xbox (after the PC of course). Sad thing is, if they made NCAA on PC, I wouldnt even own a console, but EA being the bunch of cocksuckers that they are......
Sorry, keep geting off topic. Dont wanna have to split :) I am anxious to see the 360, the controller does look better on it as well. The PS3.......I really think it's hurting them having such a large gap between it and the PS2.
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I guess I'm the opposite, BMax. I love the Xbox controller. In fact, I like the bigass ORIGINAL Xbox controller. And I have smaller hands. Go figure. It's big, and it's heavier, but I think it's more ergonomically efficient than the PS2 controller. It just seems to fit awkwardly in my hands. If I'm playing for a long time, my hands don't get cramped or tired on an Xbox controller like they do on the PS2 controller
For what it's worth, I bought my first Xbox the day they came out (I bought a second one last week cuz the old one is on its last leg.) The controller was one of my main concerns. I was indifferent to the Playstation controller, uncomfortable with the N64 controller, and downright offended by the Dreamcast controller.
I've never been able to play games on a mouse/keyboard setup. I don't know why. That said, I see how people would prefer it. I think it's safe to say though that regardless of which way you lean on this issue, The Halo/Xbox setup is the best FPS setup going in consoles. The PS2 controller is just horrible for FPSs.
And all this theory about PC gaming is nice... Until you remember that there are people like me out there that own shitty eMachines that have trouble running NES emulators.
For what it's worth, I bought my first Xbox the day they came out (I bought a second one last week cuz the old one is on its last leg.) The controller was one of my main concerns. I was indifferent to the Playstation controller, uncomfortable with the N64 controller, and downright offended by the Dreamcast controller.
I've never been able to play games on a mouse/keyboard setup. I don't know why. That said, I see how people would prefer it. I think it's safe to say though that regardless of which way you lean on this issue, The Halo/Xbox setup is the best FPS setup going in consoles. The PS2 controller is just horrible for FPSs.
And all this theory about PC gaming is nice... Until you remember that there are people like me out there that own shitty eMachines that have trouble running NES emulators.
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BrutusMaximus
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I was the same way. Believe it was back when the original Quake came out. I couldnt begin to play with a keyboard and mouse. Started playing Quake online, and I was awful at it. Friend of mine said "why the hell are you using a gamepad? If you dont use the keyboard, you'll never be good at this". So I tried it. Was horrible at it for a while, but once I got used to it, became an awesome Quake player, and I have never turned back since. As far as aiming goes, there is no way you can be as quick with an analog stick as you can with a mouse, it's impossible.
I can see how some people would prefer the xbox controller, and I think I would agree with it being better for FPS games. I just dont play a single FPS on console, so I really couldnt say one way or another. I am enjoying NCAA so much more this year, because of having the PS2 back.
I dont dislike the xbox, in fact I liked it. However I own a console basically for NCAA, and it sucked ass on the xbox (last year was a bad port, and I understand that, but I couldnt control it half as well with the xbox controller)
To each, his own, not tryin to slam ideas into people's heads, just discussing :)
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I think the PS3 is gonna be awesome, I just don't know if it will be in time or affordable enough.
I was once a FPS junkie, there was nothing besides small diversions between CS. It was so huge at my 2,000 person school that you could play a game from 10 AM till 2 AM easily, and from 2 PM - 8 PM we would often need a second LAN game just to host everyone. Battlefield, AA, Call of Duty, you name it I played it (not a big fan of space shooters like Quake tho).
I agree FPS belong on PCs, but its hard to get everyone with the proper equipment. You can play online, but its much more fun to play against people you know, as well as work in teams of four in one room. You can do this with PCs, but it takes so much time to set up 4 PCs in one room that xbox is a dream come true in that regard.
It definitely is much better when you play Ninja Gaiden or Madden for 6+ hours straight. IMO the Controller S (the small one) is the best controller ever made, tho I don't see why they couldn't have put the white and black buttons on the back side of the controller. That would have made it perfect.
I was once a FPS junkie, there was nothing besides small diversions between CS. It was so huge at my 2,000 person school that you could play a game from 10 AM till 2 AM easily, and from 2 PM - 8 PM we would often need a second LAN game just to host everyone. Battlefield, AA, Call of Duty, you name it I played it (not a big fan of space shooters like Quake tho).
I agree FPS belong on PCs, but its hard to get everyone with the proper equipment. You can play online, but its much more fun to play against people you know, as well as work in teams of four in one room. You can do this with PCs, but it takes so much time to set up 4 PCs in one room that xbox is a dream come true in that regard.
It definitely is much better when you play Ninja Gaiden or Madden for 6+ hours straight. IMO the Controller S (the small one) is the best controller ever made, tho I don't see why they couldn't have put the white and black buttons on the back side of the controller. That would have made it perfect.
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Bought a 2nd one this close to Xbox360 time, why not just hold out 2 months it should be that hard to do as you'll be very busy with college foottball :)jlb1705 said:
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Well, like others have said they're gonna do, I'm gonna take a little bit of a wait-and-see with the new console.
2nd - I got a fat tuition reimbursement check from work, so $130 was nothing to me last week. It's like I was spending Monopoly money.
3rd - the original Xbox still works just fine for Halo, Splinter Cell, RTCW, and Rallisport. It just takes a big crap on me on all the EA games, KOTOR, Morrowind, etc. So, it's not entirely true that I was replacing my Xbox. It's now a backup/LAN machine now.
Speaking of NCAA - it is much better on Xbox this year. I was doing some surgery/cleaning on the old machine, and I used NCAA 2005 as my test game, since it was the one giving me the most problems. After weeks of playing 2006, I was amazed at just how BAD 2005 was.
2nd - I got a fat tuition reimbursement check from work, so $130 was nothing to me last week. It's like I was spending Monopoly money.
3rd - the original Xbox still works just fine for Halo, Splinter Cell, RTCW, and Rallisport. It just takes a big crap on me on all the EA games, KOTOR, Morrowind, etc. So, it's not entirely true that I was replacing my Xbox. It's now a backup/LAN machine now.
Speaking of NCAA - it is much better on Xbox this year. I was doing some surgery/cleaning on the old machine, and I used NCAA 2005 as my test game, since it was the one giving me the most problems. After weeks of playing 2006, I was amazed at just how BAD 2005 was.
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