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Potential rule changes for 2009/2011

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There's talk of enforcing early celebration and taunting penalties from the spot where they occur, which would wipe out TDs for guys that celebrate or taunt before they get to the end zone. I've been saying for years that they should do that if they want to eliminate that behavior.

EDIT - that change wouldn't occur until at least the 2011 season.

DeSean's Jackson's flip that fell short of the goal line in the Army All-Star Game comes to mind (his team did end up at the 16-yard line). Or Reggie Bush taunting Brian Urlacher. And David Boston taunting Charles Woodson.

The tough calls would be the guys that dive into the end zone.

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NCAA debates celebration penalties

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- The NCAA foobtdall rules committee wants coaches to debate turning some dead-ball celebration penalties into live-ball fouls, which could result in taking points off the scoreboard.

Chairman Mike Bellotti, Oregon's coach, cautioned this was not yet a formal proposal and is not likely to take affect for at least two years.

The committee wants to gauge support among coaches. If the rule was eventually changed, players who begin taunting opponents before reaching the end zone could have those touchdowns called back.

The committee also suggested strengthening its sportsmanship statement. Under the recommendation, coaches could be disciplined by conferences or schools for repeated infractions that occur before, during and after games.
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Rugby-style punters outside the tackle bax may soon become fair game.

cbssports

Taunting on scoring plays might wipe out TDs (in 2011)

The committee did recommend the following 2009 rules changes:
[SIZE=+1]•[/SIZE] If a punter carries the ball outside the tackle box, he could not be the subject of a roughing-the-kicker penalty. The change addresses rugby-style punters who frequently run outside the tackle box before making their kicks.
[SIZE=+1]•[/SIZE] Both teams can wear colored jerseys if approved by a conference office and both teams. When an agreement is unable to be reached, the visiting team will wear white.

That issue came up prior to last season's USC-UCLA game. USC wore its home jerseys at the Rose Bowl and was penalized a timeout at the beginning of the game. UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel burned a timeout to equalize things.

The NCAA is going to a two-year rules cycle. Any proposals that are approved will be in effect for the 2009 and 2010 seasons. Wednesday's proposed rules changes were only recommendations. They still have to be approved by the NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel later this year.

Bellotti added there was wide support for last season's timing rule that shortened the length of games. The rules committee largely adopted the NFL model beginning in 2008. It resulted in approximately nine fewer plays per game. Game were shortened by approximately 10 minutes compared to 2007.
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JT weighs in on the potential rule change:

dispatch

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But if Ohio State coach Jim Tressel would have been polled yesterday, his answer would have been "nay."

"I believe the current rule is satisfactory," Tressel said. "It is our job as coaches to make sure our guys perform appropriately, not the officials."
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As long the penalties are strictly defined and enforced universally. Santonio Holmes was flagged in the Fiesta Bowl for pointing to the sky as he passed the five yard line, a move Reggie Bush did on a regular basis without being flagged.

I was pissed then and I'd be even more pissed if it took a TD off the board.

With the harsher penalty, they need an even more thorough definition of what is a flaggable offense.
 
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In response the USC-UCLA jersey issue last season, the NCAA football rules committee approved a provision allowing both teams to wear colored jerseys in games when there is a clear contrast in color and only if both teams agree.
The agreement is also subject to conference approval. If there is not an agreement, the visiting team would wear white jerseys.
The proposal does not become official until it is passed by the NCAA's oversight committee next month.

Jersey Rule - Inside USC with Scott Wolf
 
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methomps;1407061; said:
In response the USC-UCLA jersey issue last season, the NCAA football rules committee approved a provision allowing both teams to wear colored jerseys in games when there is a clear contrast in color and only if both teams agree.
The agreement is also subject to conference approval. If there is not an agreement, the visiting team would wear white jerseys.
The proposal does not become official until it is passed by the NCAA's oversight committee next month.

Jersey Rule - Inside USC with Scott Wolf
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This one seems almost too logical for the NCAA to pass. :tongue2:

As for the live-ball celebration idea - that's one of the worst proposed rules I've ever heard of. Taking a touchdown away? Absurd. Taunting may be distasteful, but no more than that. 15 yards is adequate penalty, as a dead-ball foul.
 
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MaxBuck;1407068; said:
This one seems almost too logical for the NCAA to pass. :tongue2:

As for the live-ball celebration idea - that's one of the worst proposed rules I've ever heard of. Taking a touchdown away? Absurd. Taunting may be distasteful, but no more than that. 15 yards is adequate penalty, as a dead-ball foul.
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On the ensuing kick-off.
 
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Fungo Squiggly;1407369; said:
Reggie Bush did the "point to the sky" bit, too....he just never got flagged for it. :p

EDIT - More importantly, I still don't see how that is unsportsmanlike.
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Not to mention thats one example (and the only example) where Holmes was caught celebrating early... and in his last college game ever (not that that really excuses the action or anything), but early celebrations do seem to happen much more frequently on the west coast where the referees seem to be care free with that rule.
 
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MaxBuck;1407068; said:
As for the live-ball celebration idea - that's one of the worst proposed rules I've ever heard of. Taking a touchdown away? Absurd. Taunting may be distasteful, but no more than that. 15 yards is adequate penalty, as a dead-ball foul.
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Why is it absurd? If a player commits a clipping penalty on the 5-yard line, the ball comes out to the 20. If the taunting occurs on the 5-yard line, before the TD is scored, why shouldn't the penalty be enforced from the point at which it occurred?

But if it's also for celebrating early (without taunting), it puts another difficult judgment call in the hands of the refs. If a guy flips into the end zone, it doesn't bother me too much because I think that's over the top; but for diving into the end zone, or taking a little hop or pointing into the air, it opens the possibility of inconsistent enforcement.
 
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BB73;1407413; said:
Why is it absurd? If a player commits a clipping penalty on the 5-yard line, the ball comes out to the 20. If the taunting occurs on the 5-yard line, before the TD is scored, why shouldn't the penalty be enforced from the point at which it occurred?

But if it's also for celebrating early (without taunting), it puts another difficult judgment call in the hands of the refs. If a guy flips into the end zone, it doesn't bother me too much because I think that's over the top; but for diving into the end zone, or taking a little hop or pointing into the air, it opens the possibility of inconsistent enforcement.
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I'm completely against any additional "judgement" calls by officials.
 
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