Oh8ch;606821; said:
The UT campus is a few blocks from the state capitol, an easy walk. It's actually closer to the downtown area than tOSU is.
Upvote
0
-
Follow us on Twitter @buckeyeplanet and @bp_recruiting, like us on Facebook! Enjoy a post or article, recommend it to others! BP is only as strong as its community, and we only promote by word of mouth, so share away!
- Thread starter osugrad21
- Start date
The UT campus is a few blocks from the state capitol, an easy walk. It's actually closer to the downtown area than tOSU is.
osuguy0301
OSU/UT or Bust
Just coming back from Austin I dont think it is comparable in size to Columbus, I would say it more like Akron. It seems to be a town built around a big school.
As far as the campus disturbances go, I hate it. It comes from a bad mixture of alcohol, excitement/anger, and people not respecting the area they are in. I am not sweeping this under the rug at all but the spotlight shines very bright on OSU and Columbus during football season from the national media. Had it been 10 fires instead of 50 it still would of been on national news. There is a large lack of respect for the University, football players, and fan base around the country when things like this break out. I lived on campus in 2002 and I didn't have the slightest feeling I need to burn something or turn over cars after those big victories.
99% of Buckeye fans are great fans and great to tailgate with. The probelm is that the 1% who are assholes are the ones who get all the media attention for being rude to fans, starting fights, and being drunken idiots in general. On gameday there may be 150,000-200,000 fans in the campus area and that 1% equates to 1,500-2,000 assholes. I love Buckeye football and bleed scarlet and gray like everyone else but 18-22 year old kids on a football field don't define my life. If we lose the sun will shine tomorrow. There is no reason to cuss someone out from the other team if we lost or torch dumpsters. No matter how hard we try there are going to be classless people and sore losers. The agenda is to make that the exception rather than the rule. We need to call out this kind of behavior and make those people look like fools when they are doing it and let it be known that sort of behavior isn't tolerated. Somtimes you have to police your own.
In my days going to Buckeye games I have seen some real idiots on campus, people that ought to be ashamed of themselves. The really sad part about it was they werent 21 yr old students, they were 30-40 yr old men that couldn't hold their alcohol. Things that happen on campus can be attributed to students sometimes but overall bad fan behavior comes from every gender, race, and age group. Its easy to dump it on the students but 75-80% of the people in the stadium are out of college. Most students wont tailgate if they dont have tickets they will party at their houses or apartments. Sorry for the long post but being tOSU Alumni this is kind of a sore spot.
Go Bucks!!
As far as the campus disturbances go, I hate it. It comes from a bad mixture of alcohol, excitement/anger, and people not respecting the area they are in. I am not sweeping this under the rug at all but the spotlight shines very bright on OSU and Columbus during football season from the national media. Had it been 10 fires instead of 50 it still would of been on national news. There is a large lack of respect for the University, football players, and fan base around the country when things like this break out. I lived on campus in 2002 and I didn't have the slightest feeling I need to burn something or turn over cars after those big victories.
99% of Buckeye fans are great fans and great to tailgate with. The probelm is that the 1% who are assholes are the ones who get all the media attention for being rude to fans, starting fights, and being drunken idiots in general. On gameday there may be 150,000-200,000 fans in the campus area and that 1% equates to 1,500-2,000 assholes. I love Buckeye football and bleed scarlet and gray like everyone else but 18-22 year old kids on a football field don't define my life. If we lose the sun will shine tomorrow. There is no reason to cuss someone out from the other team if we lost or torch dumpsters. No matter how hard we try there are going to be classless people and sore losers. The agenda is to make that the exception rather than the rule. We need to call out this kind of behavior and make those people look like fools when they are doing it and let it be known that sort of behavior isn't tolerated. Somtimes you have to police your own.
In my days going to Buckeye games I have seen some real idiots on campus, people that ought to be ashamed of themselves. The really sad part about it was they werent 21 yr old students, they were 30-40 yr old men that couldn't hold their alcohol. Things that happen on campus can be attributed to students sometimes but overall bad fan behavior comes from every gender, race, and age group. Its easy to dump it on the students but 75-80% of the people in the stadium are out of college. Most students wont tailgate if they dont have tickets they will party at their houses or apartments. Sorry for the long post but being tOSU Alumni this is kind of a sore spot.
Go Bucks!!
Last edited:
Upvote
0
Folanator
Brawndo's got electrolytes...
In my day they used to have cops in full riot gear up and down high street for The Game. It still did not stop some rowdies from turning a car over in the middle of campus with a bunch of Meatchicken students in the car.
I am not saying lighting fires is acceptable. But once again I think that the internet and technology increases the frequency and immediacy of reporting. I do not think that the problem is worse. Quite to the contrary, I think the students behave just about the way they always have. It is just publicized more.
I am not saying lighting fires is acceptable. But once again I think that the internet and technology increases the frequency and immediacy of reporting. I do not think that the problem is worse. Quite to the contrary, I think the students behave just about the way they always have. It is just publicized more.
Upvote
0
High Lonesome
Hook 'Em
just as a ref. on the city size...
as of 2001 austin was 680,899 people
as of july 2005 columbus was 730,657
I couldn't find what austin was at now but if you take the growth from 00-01 and continue it then austin would be at about 800,000 now....not that this means anything. I just think that, as far as pop. goes they are actually comparable in size.
as of 2001 austin was 680,899 people
as of july 2005 columbus was 730,657
I couldn't find what austin was at now but if you take the growth from 00-01 and continue it then austin would be at about 800,000 now....not that this means anything. I just think that, as far as pop. goes they are actually comparable in size.
Upvote
0
High Lonesome
Hook 'Em
oh, fair enough...i was just trying to get some perspective as I have never been to cbus
Upvote
0
OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
Dispatch
Dispatch
City, OSU drum in message: No riots
Saturday, September 16, 2006
Kathy Lynn Gray and Matthew Marx
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
</IMG> The Columbus Fire Department battles a trash bin fire on 17 th and Indianola avenues after the game against the University of Texas last weekend. There were 41 blazes that night.
The answer is as elusive as Troy Smith and Ted Ginn Jr.:
Was last weekend?s flurry of campus fires an aberration?
Or will the Buckeyes? good football fortunes bring back the violent behavior that accompanied the last national title run, in 2002?
The 41 blazes set in the campus area, mostly in trash bins, after the Buckeyes? victory against the University of Texas last Saturday jolted some city and Ohio State University officials who had worked since 2002 to snuff out violence.
All this week, they have been plotting how to douse celebratory fires and hold off-campus partying in check so the activities don?t escalate as the season continues.
Deputy Police Chief Stephen Gammill, who has been involved with the campus area since 1979, said last weekend?s fires have been "overblown and sensationalized" by the news media, pointing to coverage showing videos of the 2002 violence. Often, newscasters didn?t clarify that the video is four years old, not from this past Saturday, when no rioting took place.
"Things have really improved, and I hate to see people make the leap that things are as bad as they were in years past," Gammill said. "This past weekend, from a police perspective, doesn?t even rank anywhere. We haven?t had a major problem since the OSU-Michigan game in 2002."
Afterward, what started out as parties turned into roam- ing packs of rioters who set fires, destroyed cars and broke store windows. Video shown nationwide gave OSU and the city a black eye that led to a plan to combat the violence.
Police cracked down on underage drinkers and tailgaters with open containers of alcohol. OSU suspended or expelled students involved in illegal behavior.
"It?s everybody?s battle. Instead of just OSU, the city has taken it on, too," OSU President Karen A. Holbrook said yesterday.
The head of the local firefighters union, Jack Reall, has called for tougher penalties against those who set fires.
"They should be treated as felons as much as somebody who attacks an innocent victim walking down the street," he said in a letter to Ohio lawmakers Wednesday.
Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O?Brien said he will push for prison time for anyone convicted of felony arson.
"A message must be sent that it is not acceptable or a welcome tradition to set Dumpsters or couches on fire to celebrate or mourn a football win or loss," O?Brien said.
Yesterday, OSU student Jeffrey A. Peters, 19, of Findlay, was indicted on a fourth-degree felony charge of arson related to a fire set last weekend. He has been suspended from school.
Ohio State officials warned students anew that bad behavior could lead to university sanctions, such as suspension, and criminal charges.
"Let?s not allow a few intoxicated revelers to send our collective reputation up in smoke," university officials wrote in letters delivered to off-campus residents and e-mailed to undergraduates.
Some precautions are being taken for today?s noon game at Ohio Stadium against the University of Cincinnati. The city has been emptying campusarea trash bins every day since Monday and will continue to empty them until 10 a.m. today, said Mary Carran Webster, assistant director of public service.
As soon as most students move in for the quarter, those pickups will be reduced. Official move-in day for fall quarter is Sunday.
"But we?ll always be in there the Saturday of a home game," Webster said. She is asking residents in the area not to add trash to the bins today, to reduce the chance of fires.
Gammill said extra officers will be posted in the off-campus area, as they always are for home games, but he would not give specifics.
OSU student Cullen Naumoff doesn?t expect a repeat of 2002.
"The university has done a lot of stuff to get the word out that rioting won?t be tolerated," said Naumoff, a senior majoring in industrial engineering.
However, authorities think the lesson might need to be taught again to a new group of drinkers in town, most of whom are underage.
"I?ve worked every riot that we had since 1995. These things are very cyclical," said Columbus police Sgt. Steve Livingston, who is with the crew that patrols the University District, Short North and Downtown by bicycle.
South-campus bars that attracted rowdies have been replaced in the past two years with the Gateway retail complex, Livingston noted, saying that helps because the bars at Gateway don?t allow underage drinking. But others say the old bars gave students a place to drink that kept them off the streets.
"At least with the bars, you had bouncers and it was kind of controlled," said fire Battalion Chief Mark DeVine, who has worked in the campus area for 16 years.
"Now students just have house parties, and they get going with cell phones," he said, referring to word-of-mouth invitations that make parties grow.
Brian Supsak, 21, of E. Lane Avenue, said yelling and drinking were "out of control" after the Buckeyes? win in Austin, even though most students hadn?t moved in.
"The rest of the year, it?s going to be crazy unless we lose," said Supsak, a hospitality major at Columbus State Community College. "And I hope we don?t lose." With many students moving in this weekend, Emily Coate, 19, expects a "pretty crazy" atmosphere after the game.
"Everyone is going to want to party before schoolwork starts," said Coate, a sophomore anthropology major who lives in a dorm.
Gammill said 8 p.m. games are the worst, followed by lateafternoon games. The regularseason finale against the University of Michigan is at 3:30 p.m. Nov. 18 in Ohio Stadium.
Dispatch reporter Bruce Cadwallader contributed to this story.
[email protected] [email protected]
Dispatch
Upvote
0
VprHis
Get off my lawn, you hooligans!
...so, I've kinda been mulling this over for a bit.
I remember how impressed NCState and SDSU fans have been in the past--especially when visiting teams have received standing ovations from our fans.
Looking forward to our upcoming schedule in the next couple years, i most fervently hope that our fans roll out the red carpet for Army. Too often, the service academies are seen as nothing more than cupcake games, prime timber for the big-school buzzsaws. The Ohio State University, its fans, and the surrounding community will have an opportunity to stand up and demonstrate our understanding of what's truly important when it comes to the academies--competing with young men who are dedicated to the service of our country.
Would a great showing of sportsmanship have a lasting effect on the national perception that continues to follow us? No. It probably won't serve as a catalyst for continued good fan behavior or change in media coverage/perception, either (much as I'd like it to--and believe me when I say that I don't believe that the bulk of these largely overreported and overhyped issues are the actions of the university's students/alumni).
I don't have any real point aside from my misgivings, based on that certain troublesome element that continues to hang around, and the aforementioned national perception of OSU fans--and a great opportunity to show the nation our quality.
just thinking out loud.
I remember how impressed NCState and SDSU fans have been in the past--especially when visiting teams have received standing ovations from our fans.
Looking forward to our upcoming schedule in the next couple years, i most fervently hope that our fans roll out the red carpet for Army. Too often, the service academies are seen as nothing more than cupcake games, prime timber for the big-school buzzsaws. The Ohio State University, its fans, and the surrounding community will have an opportunity to stand up and demonstrate our understanding of what's truly important when it comes to the academies--competing with young men who are dedicated to the service of our country.
Would a great showing of sportsmanship have a lasting effect on the national perception that continues to follow us? No. It probably won't serve as a catalyst for continued good fan behavior or change in media coverage/perception, either (much as I'd like it to--and believe me when I say that I don't believe that the bulk of these largely overreported and overhyped issues are the actions of the university's students/alumni).
I don't have any real point aside from my misgivings, based on that certain troublesome element that continues to hang around, and the aforementioned national perception of OSU fans--and a great opportunity to show the nation our quality.
just thinking out loud.
Upvote
0
Bleed S & G
Taking Crazy Pills
Yes, exactly what I was talking about at lunch friday. I was saying how its a tradition and while it dosent make it right blah blah someone reminded me of that, and its very true. Its not JUST sofas. And the last major 'riot' killed a young girl who went to bishop watterson with me.StadiumDorm;606827; said:
Upvote
0
September 18, 2006
Best Program In The Nation?
Maybe on the field. But not off it. The experience provided fans at the Coliseum was shameful. If you think nothing matters more than making the most money on a Saturday, the Nebraska game was Exhibit A.
Frankly, USC is among the worst schools in the nation when it comes to the fan treatment.
The horror stories regarding the student section Saturday would not be tolerated anywhere else. I saw girls with bruised arms and legs, crying and emotionally distressed. Who in their right mind employs a reckless ``scramble?? seating policy without proper security or adequate ticket entrances? Or doesn?t employ a lottery to make sure everyone gets a seat in advance?
And that wasn?t the only embarrassment.
At least two restrooms offered non-working toilets and no running water. There was not even bottled water in one concession area.
Anyone fortunate enough to go to Arkansas two weeks ago saw an organized, fan-friendly operation that allowed students and other fans to flow freely into a 76,000-seat stadium with no glitches.
Actually, USC?s not even the best on the field. The turf was a joke, full of rough patches and divots.
Link
Best Program In The Nation?
Maybe on the field. But not off it. The experience provided fans at the Coliseum was shameful. If you think nothing matters more than making the most money on a Saturday, the Nebraska game was Exhibit A.
Frankly, USC is among the worst schools in the nation when it comes to the fan treatment.
The horror stories regarding the student section Saturday would not be tolerated anywhere else. I saw girls with bruised arms and legs, crying and emotionally distressed. Who in their right mind employs a reckless ``scramble?? seating policy without proper security or adequate ticket entrances? Or doesn?t employ a lottery to make sure everyone gets a seat in advance?
And that wasn?t the only embarrassment.
At least two restrooms offered non-working toilets and no running water. There was not even bottled water in one concession area.
Anyone fortunate enough to go to Arkansas two weeks ago saw an organized, fan-friendly operation that allowed students and other fans to flow freely into a 76,000-seat stadium with no glitches.
Actually, USC?s not even the best on the field. The turf was a joke, full of rough patches and divots.
Link
Upvote
0
