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POLL: Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add?

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Which Schools Should the Big Ten Add?

  • Arizona

    Votes: 10 12.3%

  • California

    Votes: 22 27.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 6 7.4%

  • Colorado

    Votes: 15 18.5%

  • Duke

    Votes: 8 9.9%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 13 16.0%

  • Iowa State

    Votes: 10 12.3%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 13 16.0%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 3 3.7%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 29 35.8%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 35 43.2%

  • Oregon

    Votes: 31 38.3%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 5 6.2%

  • Stanford

    Votes: 26 32.1%

  • UCLA

    Votes: 36 44.4%

  • USC

    Votes: 41 50.6%

  • Utah

    Votes: 6 7.4%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 25 30.9%

  • Washington

    Votes: 23 28.4%

  • West Virginia

    Votes: 4 4.9%

  • Stay at 14 teams, don't expand

    Votes: 5 6.2%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 6 7.4%
  • Total voters
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DaddyBigBucks said:
That's fine and all, but it is Sherman's March and what it meant to the South that is the point.
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So Grant said, "I'm gonna start here and push Lee back toward Richmond. I'm turning Sheridan loose to chase 'em out of the mountains and then I want you to kick in the backdoor in Atlanta."

Sherman added, "Yes, sir. How about permission to march on down to the sea after I kick 'em out of Atlanta?"

To which Grant added, "Then we can both go home and kick Michigan's ass just for shits and grins."
 
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Football drives expansion. Nobody’s adding teams just for their basketball programs. Anyone who voted for Kansas has forfeited their right to ever again bitch about the Big Ten adding Rutgers. (And I still say we need to give them at least 20 years to develop in their new conference. It takes time to build a program. They beat Michigan in their first year here and they also made Michigan the second oldest team in the conference so I think that counts for something.)

As far as OSU is concerned, the Bucks are already in a pretty good situation. Just because Texas and Oklahoma are moving to the SEC doesn’t mean the B1G has to expand. I’d rather see Michigan and Nebraska start pulling their weight. But if the conference is going to expand then it needs to think “B1G.” Like, say, adding Notre Dame and USC. That would really increase tv contract money and expand the BTN footprint. If you wanted to make it more appealing to USC and expand the BTN footprint farther, add USC’s other rival UCLA and another ND rival Boston College. Stretching all the way down the east coast from Boston to D.C., to Chicago, to L.A. wouldn’t just be B1G, it would be HUGE.
 
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As long as they are selected from this list I'm fine with any number of teams being added:

USC
UCLA
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Colorado
Virginia
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame (only if they give up their self-righteousness and self-importance and submit to the will of the conference... and I think we all know the chances of that happening are statistically indistinguishable from zero)
 
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Cratylus said:
As long as they are selected from this list I'm fine with any number of teams being added:

USC
UCLA
Cal
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
Arizona
Colorado
Virginia
North Carolina
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame (only if they give up their self-righteousness and self-importance and submit to the will of the conference... and I think we all know the chances of that happening are statistically indistinguishable from zero)
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Aside from the Domers, I think that the start of my list was pretty similar to yours.

If you take UNC and UVA, you have to take Duke so I dropped Domers.

Also dropped Arizona for Utah for lacrosse.

Either way… again, aside from the Domers, I’d be happy with either of our lists. I just don’t want them in the B1G ever.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
Aside from the Domers, I think that the start of my list was pretty similar to yours.

If you take UNC and UVA, you have to take Duke so I dropped Domers.

Also dropped Arizona for Utah for lacrosse.

Either way… again, aside from the Domers, I’d be happy with either of our lists. I just don’t want them in the B1G ever.
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Yeah, Fuck Notre Dame and Duke. But my list looks similar.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
Aside from the Domers, I think that the start of my list was pretty similar to yours.

If you take UNC and UVA, you have to take Duke so I dropped Domers.

Also dropped Arizona for Utah for lacrosse.

Either way… again, aside from the Domers, I’d be happy with either of our lists. I just don’t want them in the B1G ever.
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Yeah, I'd probably be fine with Utah as well... an oversight on my part.

LovelandBuckeye said:
Yeah, Fuck Notre Dame and Duke. But my list looks similar.
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I'm not keen on adding Duke either. And the Domers wouldn't be my first choice. I went back and forth trying to decide if they'd be on my list, and I reluctantly added them at the last minute (hence why they are the last school on my list).
 
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Hetuck said:
Football drives expansion. Nobody’s adding teams just for their basketball programs. Anyone who voted for Kansas has forfeited their right to ever again bitch about the Big Ten adding Rutgers. (And I still say we need to give them at least 20 years to develop in their new conference. It takes time to build a program. They beat Michigan in their first year here and they also made Michigan the second oldest team in the conference so I think that counts for something.)

As far as OSU is concerned, the Bucks are already in a pretty good situation. Just because Texas and Oklahoma are moving to the SEC doesn’t mean the B1G has to expand. I’d rather see Michigan and Nebraska start pulling their weight. But if the conference is going to expand then it needs to think “B1G.” Like, say, adding Notre Dame and USC. That would really increase tv contract money and expand the BTN footprint. If you wanted to make it more appealing to USC and expand the BTN footprint farther, add USC’s other rival UCLA and another ND rival Boston College. Stretching all the way down the east coast from Boston to D.C., to Chicago, to L.A. wouldn’t just be B1G, it would be HUGE.
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I’d rather see another decade or two of Michigan not pulling their weight.
 
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Hetuck said:
Then you want Penn State to be OSU’s main rival.
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Tsun is, and will always be, OSU’s only rival.

Bama is our current nemesis and benchmark. Those change from time to time.

In the current CFB environment, it makes no sense to wish for a more difficult conference. You want a just-good-enough conference.
 
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cincibuck said:
So Grant said, "I'm gonna start here and push Lee back toward Richmond. I'm turning Sheridan loose to chase 'em out of the mountains and then I want you to kick in the backdoor in Atlanta."

Sherman added, "Yes, sir. How about permission to march on down to the sea after I kick 'em out of Atlanta?"

To which Grant added, "Then we can both go home and kick Michigan's ass just for shits and grins."
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Ask @BB73. I'm sure that's the way he remembers it.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Tsun is, and will always be, OSU’s only rival.

Bama is our current nemesis and benchmark. Those change from time to time.

In the current CFB environment, it makes no sense to wish for a more difficult conference. You want a just-good-enough conference.
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You don’t understand how rivalries work. Everyone in the conference is a rival. You can rank your rivals in the order of which teams you fear the most, and the ones to whom you hate losing the most. It doesn’t matter if Buckeye fans insist that PSU isn’t a rival. When they admit that they hate losing to PSU almost as much as they hate losing to Michigan, they’re admitting that PSU is OSU’s second biggest rival. After Michigan, Penn State is the most important game on OSU’s regular season schedule. If you want Michigan to suck forever then PSU will become the most important team to beat on OSU’s schedule every year and they will be the Buckeyes’ main rival. That’s just how it works.

The Bucks also have rivalries outside the conference. The one consistent one is Notre Dame which is a cold rivalry because they rarely play. But their fans know and live and work with and hate each other. (All factors that are essential to strong rivalries.) Other rivalries are more fluid and can change over time. Right now Alabama and Clemson are rivals. Miami and USC aren’t. Texas is lucky they don’t play Ohio State every year.

I don’t want to see OSU succeed by beating weak competition every year. I want to see them be a great team and see them succeed by beating other great teams. If you want to see the rest of the conference be weak and you want to celebrate pushing them around then you’re just a bully. There’s no sportsmanship in that. I’d like to see OSU beat great Big Ten teams then watch those teams go kick the asses of other teams in their bowl games (which are, unfortunately, soon to be a thing of the past).
 
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