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OSUBasketballJunkie
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4/14/05
Suprised espn has not done an "outside the lines" expose on the Tennesee program.....
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bucknuts44820 said:Suprised espn has not done an "outside the lines" expose on the Tennesee program.....
ESPiN has appointed a special investigative team to pursue the story on programs out of control at USC and Tennessee...they land in Columbus tomorrow
bucknuts44820 said:Suprised espn has not done an "outside the lines" expose on the Tennesee program.....
ESPiN has appointed a special investigative team to pursue the story on programs out of control at USC and Tennessee...
they land in Columbus tomorrow
bucknuts44820 said:Suprised espn has not done an "outside the lines" expose on the Tennesee program.....
ESPiN has appointed a special investigative team to pursue the story on programs out of control at USC and Tennessee...
they land in Columbus tomorrow
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Here's a great defense for a murder charge:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/04/14/bc.fbc.arizonast.shooti.ap/index.html
Wade says he didn't plan to shoot
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) -- A former Arizona State football player accused in a fatal shooting told investigators that he never planned on pulling the trigger.
Police on Wednesday released a videotaped interview that Loren Wade had with a Scottsdale detective hours after the March 26 shooting outside a city nightclub.
A grand jury has indicted Wade, 21, on one count of first-degree murder in the death of Brandon Falkner, 25, of Peoria.
"It got out of hand. It shouldn't have happened, man. I swear, dude," Wade told the police detective in the videotaped interview. "It was not my intent at all, man, not at all."
Witnesses said they saw Wade approach the car of Falkner and the two men exchanged words before a single gunshot rang out.
Authorities said Falkner, also a former Sun Devils football player, was killed by a bullet to the head.
In the police interview, Wade said his girlfriend asked him to come pick her up at a Scottsdale nightclub and he became upset when he saw her near a car full of men.
"My intention was not to shoot that gun off... I swear to God I never planned on pulling the trigger," Wade said. "I hit him like that and then the gun went off and it, it shocked me."
Wade told police he bought the gun for $100 during his freshman year at ASU in 2002. He played only three games last year before he was suspended for the season for receiving improper benefits involving an overdue utility bill.
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You can see how hard Spurrier wants to crack down in the bold quote below:
Newton won't face charge in fight
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/04/14/bc.fbc.scarolina.newton.ap/index.html
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- South Carolina wide receiver Syvelle Newton was involved in an incident with another student last weekend, but a criminal charge has been dropped, police said.
Newton allegedly punched Justin Williams of Wagener on a city street about 1:30 a.m. Saturday, a police incident report states. Williams said he was trying to "calm down several other people who were talking" when Newton struck him.
<!--startclickprintexclude-->A recorder from municipal court issued a warrant for Newton's arrest on Monday. Williams decided to drop the charges on Wednesday.
"I've found a better solution for handling that, more of a mediation-type deal," Williams said.
Newton was not served with the warrant, police spokesman Skot Garrick said.
South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier said he did not plan to discipline Newton for the incident.
"We're going to give him a little benefit right now. But if he's at these scenes of scuffles and brawls too many time, then he won't play for us." Spurrier said.
Newton would not talk about the matter on Wednesday. He applied for pretrial intervention on Tuesday to clear a petit larceny charge for the theft of photographs from Williams-Brice Stadium in November.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/04/14/bc.fbc.arizonast.shooti.ap/index.html
Wade says he didn't plan to shoot
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) -- A former Arizona State football player accused in a fatal shooting told investigators that he never planned on pulling the trigger.
Police on Wednesday released a videotaped interview that Loren Wade had with a Scottsdale detective hours after the March 26 shooting outside a city nightclub.
A grand jury has indicted Wade, 21, on one count of first-degree murder in the death of Brandon Falkner, 25, of Peoria.
"It got out of hand. It shouldn't have happened, man. I swear, dude," Wade told the police detective in the videotaped interview. "It was not my intent at all, man, not at all."
Witnesses said they saw Wade approach the car of Falkner and the two men exchanged words before a single gunshot rang out.
Authorities said Falkner, also a former Sun Devils football player, was killed by a bullet to the head.
In the police interview, Wade said his girlfriend asked him to come pick her up at a Scottsdale nightclub and he became upset when he saw her near a car full of men.
"My intention was not to shoot that gun off... I swear to God I never planned on pulling the trigger," Wade said. "I hit him like that and then the gun went off and it, it shocked me."
Wade told police he bought the gun for $100 during his freshman year at ASU in 2002. He played only three games last year before he was suspended for the season for receiving improper benefits involving an overdue utility bill.
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You can see how hard Spurrier wants to crack down in the bold quote below:
Newton won't face charge in fight
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/04/14/bc.fbc.scarolina.newton.ap/index.html
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- South Carolina wide receiver Syvelle Newton was involved in an incident with another student last weekend, but a criminal charge has been dropped, police said.
Newton allegedly punched Justin Williams of Wagener on a city street about 1:30 a.m. Saturday, a police incident report states. Williams said he was trying to "calm down several other people who were talking" when Newton struck him.
<!--startclickprintexclude-->A recorder from municipal court issued a warrant for Newton's arrest on Monday. Williams decided to drop the charges on Wednesday.
"I've found a better solution for handling that, more of a mediation-type deal," Williams said.
Newton was not served with the warrant, police spokesman Skot Garrick said.
South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier said he did not plan to discipline Newton for the incident.
"We're going to give him a little benefit right now. But if he's at these scenes of scuffles and brawls too many time, then he won't play for us." Spurrier said.
Newton would not talk about the matter on Wednesday. He applied for pretrial intervention on Tuesday to clear a petit larceny charge for the theft of photographs from Williams-Brice Stadium in November.
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Man! That's some good stuff. tOSU should use that. We could put Irrizary & Guilford back on the team and say "We're going to give them a little benefit right now. But if they continue to mug people too many times, then they won't play for us."
Thanks for another beautiful copout, Steve!
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Spurrier has actually cleaned house since arriving at USC...the running joke during Spring Practice was there wouldn't be enough warm bodies to play this fall.Bucky Katt said:
The Newton story has more to it than the media is portraying...hence the dropped charges and no discipline. The larceny charge is actually Skip Holtz's fault from every story I have heard...
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South Carolina arrest total now at 11, matching Tennessee's total since Feb. '04. Seems like the guys playing for Spurrier and Fulmer are all trying to run up this score.
Two Gamecocks charged with marijuana possession
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8395320
April 17, 2005
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Two South Carolina football players were arrested early Sunday and charged with simple marijuana possession, raising the number of Gamecocks arrested since the end of last season to 11.
Sophomore linebacker Josh Johnson, sophomore defensive back Ty Erving and another 18-year-old man were cited not far from the university after an officer smelled marijuana coming from the parked car the players were sitting in, according to a police report.
The officer ordered Johnson, Erving and Justin Johnson out of the car, according to the report, and found a small amount of marijuana.
The athletics department should receive a copy of the incident report Monday. Athletic director Mike McGee will review it before deciding whether the players should be disciplined, spokeswoman Michelle Schmitt said Sunday night.
Nine other Gamecocks players have been arrested on charges ranging from domestic violence to grand larceny.
Two Gamecocks charged with marijuana possession
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8395320
April 17, 2005
COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Two South Carolina football players were arrested early Sunday and charged with simple marijuana possession, raising the number of Gamecocks arrested since the end of last season to 11.
Sophomore linebacker Josh Johnson, sophomore defensive back Ty Erving and another 18-year-old man were cited not far from the university after an officer smelled marijuana coming from the parked car the players were sitting in, according to a police report.
The officer ordered Johnson, Erving and Justin Johnson out of the car, according to the report, and found a small amount of marijuana.
The athletics department should receive a copy of the incident report Monday. Athletic director Mike McGee will review it before deciding whether the players should be disciplined, spokeswoman Michelle Schmitt said Sunday night.
Nine other Gamecocks players have been arrested on charges ranging from domestic violence to grand larceny.
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Southern Miss offers schollie to LB guilty of manslaughter.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8397416
April 18, 2005
By Dennis Dodd
Troubled junior college linebacker Marcus Raines has committed to Southern Mississippi.
Raines went from top 15 linebacker prospect at Pasadena (Calif.) City College to pariah after word spread in recruiting circles about his role in the May 2000 death of a high school student in Palmdale, Calif. Raines originally was charged with second-degree murder after Christopher O'Leary died following a scuffle at a party. Instead of going to trial, Raines eventually accepted a plea bargain to involuntary manslaughter.
He served one year in a juvenile institution and two years in a boot camp. Raines has not signed with Southern Miss yet but told CBS SportsLine.com on Monday that the school has offered a scholarship and he intends to sign at some point. He has two years of eligibility remaining.
Raines saw all offers dry up after Kansas State publicly stopped recruiting him on Dec. 3. When that happened, Raines' past became more widely known among recruiters even though his situation had been widely covered in Los Angeles.
"They believed in my character and decided to scholarship me," Raines said of Southern Miss by phone Monday from Pasadena, where he is still attending junior college. "They asked me a lot of questions, but they believed in me."
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</TD><TD width=15> </TD></TR><TR><TD width=150>Marcus Raines said the right things to school officials. (Provided to SportsLine) </TD><TD width=15> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Raines met with Southern Miss president Shelby Thames, who signed off on his recruitment.
"He didn't hide anything from us," said Southern Miss athletic director Richard Giannini. "He deserves a second opportunity. He's dedicated his life to being a positive mentor, helping people like him."
Raines' phone remained silent from Dec. 3 and as the Feb. 2 national signing day came and went. Southern Miss coach Jeff Bower began recruiting Raines in the past two months. At 6-feet-3, 230 pounds, Raines was considered one of the best junior-college linebackers in the country. Before Dec. 3, at least four schools were recruiting him -- Marshall, Arkansas, Washington State and K-State.
One East Coast coach who lost his entire linebacking corps told SportsLine.com he couldn't offer a scholarship because of Raines' history.
Frustrated, Raines' mother, Cynthia Evans of Sacramento, Calif., began writing schools to publicize her son.
"She's so excited, she's beside herself," Raines said. "The people at Southern Miss are outstanding. I had a chance to give my side of the story. People can do you any kind of way. They got it."
The details of the case have been debated since O'Leary died. Raines might have decided to plea bargain when O'Leary's former girlfriend testified that Raines kicked O'Leary in the head. That was after O'Leary reportedly had been punched and fallen to the ground.
In June, Raines lost a civil suit brought by O'Leary's family. The judgment was for $775,000.
It is believed that Raines will sign a scholarship agreement with Southern Miss that does not bind him to the school until he enrolls.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/8397416
April 18, 2005
By Dennis Dodd
Troubled junior college linebacker Marcus Raines has committed to Southern Mississippi.
Raines went from top 15 linebacker prospect at Pasadena (Calif.) City College to pariah after word spread in recruiting circles about his role in the May 2000 death of a high school student in Palmdale, Calif. Raines originally was charged with second-degree murder after Christopher O'Leary died following a scuffle at a party. Instead of going to trial, Raines eventually accepted a plea bargain to involuntary manslaughter.
He served one year in a juvenile institution and two years in a boot camp. Raines has not signed with Southern Miss yet but told CBS SportsLine.com on Monday that the school has offered a scholarship and he intends to sign at some point. He has two years of eligibility remaining.
Raines saw all offers dry up after Kansas State publicly stopped recruiting him on Dec. 3. When that happened, Raines' past became more widely known among recruiters even though his situation had been widely covered in Los Angeles.
"They believed in my character and decided to scholarship me," Raines said of Southern Miss by phone Monday from Pasadena, where he is still attending junior college. "They asked me a lot of questions, but they believed in me."
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"He didn't hide anything from us," said Southern Miss athletic director Richard Giannini. "He deserves a second opportunity. He's dedicated his life to being a positive mentor, helping people like him."
Raines' phone remained silent from Dec. 3 and as the Feb. 2 national signing day came and went. Southern Miss coach Jeff Bower began recruiting Raines in the past two months. At 6-feet-3, 230 pounds, Raines was considered one of the best junior-college linebackers in the country. Before Dec. 3, at least four schools were recruiting him -- Marshall, Arkansas, Washington State and K-State.
One East Coast coach who lost his entire linebacking corps told SportsLine.com he couldn't offer a scholarship because of Raines' history.
Frustrated, Raines' mother, Cynthia Evans of Sacramento, Calif., began writing schools to publicize her son.
"She's so excited, she's beside herself," Raines said. "The people at Southern Miss are outstanding. I had a chance to give my side of the story. People can do you any kind of way. They got it."
The details of the case have been debated since O'Leary died. Raines might have decided to plea bargain when O'Leary's former girlfriend testified that Raines kicked O'Leary in the head. That was after O'Leary reportedly had been punched and fallen to the ground.
In June, Raines lost a civil suit brought by O'Leary's family. The judgment was for $775,000.
It is believed that Raines will sign a scholarship agreement with Southern Miss that does not bind him to the school until he enrolls.
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Some quotes from Spurrier and Fulmer about their recent number of arrests. Steve's first quote is fine, but the second one raises a red flag for me. Fulmer on the other hand, is clearly out to win the hearts and minds of the student body, by being terrified that his football players might do worse things than break a few facial bones of their fellow students. :!
"They said they didn't do it. We'll find out. They were drug tested today and we'll find out in a couple of days whether they're guilty or not. It's as simple as that," Spurrier told reporters Monday evening before a Gamecock club meeting in Columbia.
"Those guys don't deserve to be talked about. We're giving them too much attention around here. Neither one of them have been a starter, never made a significant play for Carolina," Spurrier said.
The part on Fulmer is from Mandel at SI.com:
More disturbing has been the near-daily rash of headlines involving various off-the-field transgressions by team members, forcing head coach Phillip Fulmer to defend himself and his program against an onslaught of critics (including, albeit half-jokingly, SEC rival Steve Spurrier).
Eleven Vols have been either arrested or issued citations since March 2004, including two incidents within a week's span recently involving alleged fights between Tennessee players and members of their school's general student body. Schaeffer and receiver Bret Smith were charged with misdemeanor assault after allegedly hitting and throwing to the floor a student who was arguing with Schaeffer's girlfriend in a dormitory lobby, while defensive end Robert Ayers and linebacker Jared Mayo were issued warrants for their role in a March 5 fight at a fraternity in which the victim was knocked unconscious and had his jaw broken (the student's mother said his jaw remains wired shut and is unable to talk).
Meanwhile, defensive tackle Tony McDaniel faces a felony assault charge for allegedly punching a student during a pickup basketball game in January, breaking four bones in his face.
Fulmer, though he has expressed anger and frustration over the events and taken his own disciplinary action (suspending all involved players except Mayo, who believes he was a victim of mistaken identity), has attempted to downplay their significance.
"These were mostly a few immature young men that embarrassed us; they'll either work their way out of it, or they won't be here [come fall]," Fulmer said during an interview in his office last week. "It could be a lot worse. We're not sitting here talking about someone that's been raped or worse -- those things terrify me."
"They said they didn't do it. We'll find out. They were drug tested today and we'll find out in a couple of days whether they're guilty or not. It's as simple as that," Spurrier told reporters Monday evening before a Gamecock club meeting in Columbia.
"Those guys don't deserve to be talked about. We're giving them too much attention around here. Neither one of them have been a starter, never made a significant play for Carolina," Spurrier said.
The part on Fulmer is from Mandel at SI.com:
More disturbing has been the near-daily rash of headlines involving various off-the-field transgressions by team members, forcing head coach Phillip Fulmer to defend himself and his program against an onslaught of critics (including, albeit half-jokingly, SEC rival Steve Spurrier).
Eleven Vols have been either arrested or issued citations since March 2004, including two incidents within a week's span recently involving alleged fights between Tennessee players and members of their school's general student body. Schaeffer and receiver Bret Smith were charged with misdemeanor assault after allegedly hitting and throwing to the floor a student who was arguing with Schaeffer's girlfriend in a dormitory lobby, while defensive end Robert Ayers and linebacker Jared Mayo were issued warrants for their role in a March 5 fight at a fraternity in which the victim was knocked unconscious and had his jaw broken (the student's mother said his jaw remains wired shut and is unable to talk).
Meanwhile, defensive tackle Tony McDaniel faces a felony assault charge for allegedly punching a student during a pickup basketball game in January, breaking four bones in his face.
Fulmer, though he has expressed anger and frustration over the events and taken his own disciplinary action (suspending all involved players except Mayo, who believes he was a victim of mistaken identity), has attempted to downplay their significance.
"These were mostly a few immature young men that embarrassed us; they'll either work their way out of it, or they won't be here [come fall]," Fulmer said during an interview in his office last week. "It could be a lot worse. We're not sitting here talking about someone that's been raped or worse -- those things terrify me."
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ScriptOhio
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Re: Fulmer said during an interview in his office last week. "It could be a lot worse. We're not sitting here talking about someone that's been raped or worse -- those things terrify me."<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
Unfortunately this is not an original philosophy when it comes to college football coaches. It reminds me what Doug Williams said about Maurice Clarett when he considered transferring to Grambling:
"Saw an interesting quote from the coach of the Grambling football team the other day. He is trying to entice Maurice Clarett of OSU to go to Grambling. When asked if he had concerns about Clarett, he said the following: 'A lot of people would like to have Maurice Clarett. I don't think a headache comes with the kid. He didn't shoot nobody. They didn't arrest him for drugs. He didn't rape nobody. Ain't no problem with the kid.'
The coach is right on the facts, but he sets the bar for behavior pretty low, doesn't he?"............I'll say!
http://nationalreview.com/impromptus/impromptus091003.asp
Unfortunately this is not an original philosophy when it comes to college football coaches. It reminds me what Doug Williams said about Maurice Clarett when he considered transferring to Grambling:
"Saw an interesting quote from the coach of the Grambling football team the other day. He is trying to entice Maurice Clarett of OSU to go to Grambling. When asked if he had concerns about Clarett, he said the following: 'A lot of people would like to have Maurice Clarett. I don't think a headache comes with the kid. He didn't shoot nobody. They didn't arrest him for drugs. He didn't rape nobody. Ain't no problem with the kid.'
The coach is right on the facts, but he sets the bar for behavior pretty low, doesn't he?"............I'll say!
http://nationalreview.com/impromptus/impromptus091003.asp
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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Typical Fulmer....he has been dirty for a long time and the media is going to be all over this stuff.
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ysubuck
Be water my friend.
The media isn't going to touch this.
There's nobody named Clarett or Tressel involved so you won't hear anything about this stuff outside of some message boards.
espn has done nothing about this on SC and there is a little story about it from a week ago on their college football page.
On the other hand, someone starts a rumor about Ohio State's WOMEN'S BASKETBALL team getting some free orthodontia (a story that turned out to be bullshit) and it makes espn's college football page.
Don't anyone tell me that there wasn't an agenda against Ohio State over the last year.
There's nobody named Clarett or Tressel involved so you won't hear anything about this stuff outside of some message boards.
espn has done nothing about this on SC and there is a little story about it from a week ago on their college football page.
On the other hand, someone starts a rumor about Ohio State's WOMEN'S BASKETBALL team getting some free orthodontia (a story that turned out to be bullshit) and it makes espn's college football page.
Don't anyone tell me that there wasn't an agenda against Ohio State over the last year.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
You're right, ESPN is still reminding everyone (article dated 15 Apr 05) about Troy's suspension (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2038328) in a story about about our new AD and the shooting at ASU.ysubuck said:
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OSUBasketballJunkie
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The media will touch it, it was the lead story on the ESPN site last week, my hope is that this is just the beginning.
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