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Phil Mickelson (official thread)

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Phil birdies 18 to force a playoff with Bill Haas and Keegan Bradley. Bradley also birdied 18 to join the party. Both of those birdies were tough putts as 18 only yielded 6 birds all day.

Lots of fans there despite the absence of you know who.
 
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All three par the first hole so play continues. How the hell they play that well under a microscope amazes me. Good stuff.
 
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matt_thatsme;2112420; said:
Brilliant course management by Haas. Glad to see him win.
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Sure, if playing for par was what he was trying to do. He got lucky on a 40 ft. putt to win it.

I'm not really thinking that miss hitting your drive and then putting it about the only place he could on the green is brilliant course management.

Being the last guy to hit and knowing where Phil and Keegan were, it seema to me that a 3 wood down the middle was a better course management shot then hitting a driver.
 
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buckeyebri;2112479; said:
Sure, if playing for par was what he was trying to do. He got lucky on a 40 ft. putt to win it.

I'm not really thinking that miss hitting your drive and then putting it about the only place he could on the green is brilliant course management.

Being the last guy to hit and knowing where Phil and Keegan were, it seema to me that a 3 wood down the middle was a better course management shot then hitting a driver.
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Yeah, 3 wood worked pretty well for Keegan and Phil, right? There is a difference between course management and executing your shot. The guy knew where Phil and Keegan were and could have gone at the pin. Instead he took his medicine and gave himself a putt. Phil could have done the same thing, but instead went at the pin (bad course management). Keegan didn't have a choice due to the bunker's edge.

Call it luck if you will, but if I gave you 20 putts from that distance and Haas 20 putts from that distance, somehow I think Haas would make more of them. Skill has something to do with it. Haas played the percentages and won. You call it luck, I call it brilliant.
 
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The Tiger stuff is all good and true. But Phil is the next most popular player on tour. People love him. If he wasn't in contention today for a 2nd victory in a row, nobody gives a shit about this tournament.

To the posters talking about brilliance and luck, I'd say it's somewhere in between. The way all 3 players played that last hole was crappy. It should have gone to the next playoff hole. But holing out from 40 feet is not lucky for a professional golfer. A little luck, sure. But that guy is a professional, has a professional caddie, and has played that hole atleast 6 times in the past 5 days. Far from lucky.
 
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Buckeye Nut;2112513; said:
Ratings are higher when Tiger plays. Not debatable. Golf is just more interesting when Tiger plays.
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television shows with a Kardashian in it will get better ratings than a show without one... good ratings doesn't mean the product is better or more interesting, it just means there are a lot of stupid people out there

having been amongst a Tiger gallery at the Memorial, I can say that a vast majority of them don't even pay attention to what's going on and just follow Tiger around like sheep

"[idiotic banter as the players make their shots] oh, did Tiger hit already? okay [start walking as idiotic banter continues]"
 
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matt_thatsme;2112489; said:
Yeah, 3 wood worked pretty well for Keegan and Phil, right? There is a difference between course management and executing your shot. The guy knew where Phil and Keegan were and could have gone at the pin. Instead he took his medicine and gave himself a putt. Phil could have done the same thing, but instead went at the pin (bad course management). Keegan didn't have a choice due to the bunker's edge.

Call it luck if you will, but if I gave you 20 putts from that distance and Haas 20 putts from that distance, somehow I think Haas would make more of them. Skill has something to do with it. Haas played the percentages and won. You call it luck, I call it brilliant.
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I never said Phil or Keegan hit great 3 woods off the tee. I contended that hitting a driver by Haas wasn't great course management when he knew where the other two were. I'm sure he wasn't trying to put it in a position that he basically had to hit it where he did on the green for his second shot. Then again, I am sure that neither Phil or Keegan were trying to hit their tee shots where they did.

Yes, Haas shot that gave him a putt was a good play, but what choice did he have really. And again, I still contend he was playing for par and his putt was one of those that you give it a good shot, but keep it in play for the par. Phil had little chance to pull his shot off, but that is Phil and he isn't going to back down. He hadn't been putting well, so he went for it looking for an awesome reward. Keegan on the other hand actually hit a good shot and barely missed the putt. His course management was as good if not better than Haas and you would be saying the same thing about him if he made the putt.

I am not really sure where comparing what I would do with that putt to what a pro does with that putt even comes into the conversation. I would certainly expect a pro to make that much more often than someone like me who is a 10 handicapper would. Of course he has better skill, that is why he is a pro. Brilliant!
 
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