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People still stupid when it comes to obesity...

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WyoBuck;699778; said:
What I mean is, how can you be addicted to something that you need to survive. You can over eat, and you can do it habitually, but addictive? C'mon. When you Lump it in with smoking, alcoholism, drug use, all of these have a chemical element to the addiction, and the addict has to stop using to "beat" their respective addiction
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not needing something to survive is not a necessary characteristic of addiction. also, consumption and overconsumption food produces strong chemical reactions. google "obesity," "addiction," "serotonin," and "dopamine." there are oodles of studies on just this topic. there is most definitely a link between obesity and chemical dependence. i'm not saying that the physiological component of obesity is the major component... just a component.
 
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BUCKYLE;699782; said:
Scientists found out that when you eat cheese, a chemical reaction happens that is very similar to the reaction to opiates. That's one way of becoming addicted.
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phenylethylamine. i think that's what it is. it's considered to be an aphrodisiac, though you can find more of it in brautwurst and other... uhh... sausages. :biggrin: PEA is also in chocolate; although, you'd have to eat pounds and pounds of it for there to be an amorous effect.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;699790; said:
not needing something to survive is not a necessary characteristic of addiction. also, consumption and overconsumption food produces strong chemical reactions. google "obesity," "addiction," "serotonin," and "dopamine." there are oodles of studies on just this topic. there is most definitely a link between obesity and chemical dependence. i'm not saying that the physiological component of obesity is the major component... just a component.
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Ok, so since there are physiological changes in brain chemicals that happen when you work out, then someone could be "addidcted" to lifting weights or running then, right?
 
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Two words to help the obesity epidemic in this country, fat tax. This fat tax wouldn't be on foods, and it wouldn't ban trans fat. Let people eat what they want, however, over-indulgence would lead to paying the fat tax.

The fat tax would be excised on folks who are clinically obese. Once a year, one must visit the doctor and their weight is recorded. If one is defined to be clinically obese, then they would have to pay the fat tax for the upcoming year. If at the next year's doctor's appointment they are not clinically obese, then no fat tax is paid for the upcoming year; however, if still above the obese line, they would continue to pay the fat tax for another year.

Disclaimer: The above is stated somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The Ho-Ho in my mouth is preventing it from being completely tongue-in-cheek.
 
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WyoBuck;699796; said:
Ok, so since there are physiological changes in brain chemicals that happen when you work out, then someone could be "addidcted" to lifting weights or running then, right?
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sure, addiction to weightlifting is another studied phenomenon (body dysmorphic disorder, for one). you must remember, though: addiction is not necessarily borne only from chemical dependence. addiction can also result from conditioning (behavioral) and from psychological preconditions. of course, everything we experience is chemical. our brains function because of chemical processes. it's all tied together.
 
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WyoBuck;699796; said:
Ok, so since there are physiological changes in brain chemicals that happen when you work out, then someone could be "addidcted" to lifting weights or running then, right?
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Yes. I know someone who is "addicted" to exercise and I venture that here in a few minutes I will see her at the gym where I workout. She is there 3 - 4 times each day plus I see her outside daily running/power walking.
 
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OSU_Buckguy;699802; said:
sure, addiction to weightlifting is another studied phenomenon (body dysmorphic disorder, for one). you must remember, though: addiction is not necessarily borne only from chemical dependence. addiction can also result from conditioning (behavioral) and from psychological preconditions. of course, everything we experience is chemical. our brains function because of chemical processes. it's all tied together.
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So, we could potentially be addicted to anything, right? That is what I have the major problem with. Where do you draw the line?
 
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buckiprof;699801; said:
Two words to help the obesity epidemic in this country, fat tax. This fat tax wouldn't be on foods, and it wouldn't ban trans fat. Let people eat what they want, however, over-indulgence would lead to paying the fat tax.

The fat tax would be excised on folks who are clinically obese. Once a year, one must visit the doctor and their weight is recorded. If one is defined to be clinically obese, then they would have to pay the fat tax for the upcoming year. If at the next year's doctor's appointment they are not clinically obese, then no fat tax is paid for the upcoming year; however, if still above the obese line, they would continue to pay the fat tax for another year.

Disclaimer: The above is stated somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The Ho-Ho in my mouth is preventing it from being completely tongue-in-cheek.
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And let them pay for those two airline seats and those two subway seats that they occupy. :wink:
 
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WyoBuck;699812; said:
So, we could potentially be addicted to anything, right? That is what I have the major problem with. Where do you draw the line?
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more or less... yes. human beings are odd creatures, wyo. what can i say? for every behavior, there is likely to be an addiction to that behavior. again, deviance abounds and addiction follows.
 
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I still don't buy it. I mean, if we live in such a perilous world frought with all of these evil temptations, then why isn't everybody addicted to something? Isn't it just too convenient and a lot easier to simply say, "oh, well, I'm addicted to food and I can't help it that I'm fat, than to pull the twinkie out of your mouth and get your fat ass moving in the general direction of a healthy lifestyle?
 
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