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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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BuckeyeNation27;2192484; said:
I love how they think the world gives 2 shits enough about Penn State to want to tear them down. Winning absolutely nothing must be driving the rest of the world crazy.
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cincibuck;2192441; said:
I've laughed, joked and pointed fingers at these folks, but I have to remember my freshman year at Ohio State and recall that I was one of the estimated crowd of five thousand who lined up at 15th and High behind TBDBITL and marched to Capitol Square over the decision to not go to the Rose Bowl. More than most people, I should realize how easy it is to lose perspective over football.
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We all did stupid things when we were younger. BWI posters that claim to be doctors or lawyers and BOT members acting like petulant children indicate that something is still terribly wrong at PSU. Based on what you've written I doubt that you would be marching to Capitol Square today.
 
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cincibuck;2192441; said:
Would that Sunday could at last close the book on the funny pages. There will be nothing left for BWI posters to say short of, "Let's join the NFL," or to propose forming a new conference of schools that will accept pedophilia and administrative cover up as practices - all for the right to play Penn State in Joe Paterno Memorial Stadium.

I've laughed, joked and pointed fingers at these folks, but I have to remember my freshman year at Ohio State and recall that I was one of the estimated crowd of five thousand who lined up at 15th and High behind TBDBITL and marched to Capitol Square over the decision to not go to the Rose Bowl. More than most people, I should realize how easy it is to lose perspective over football.

Still, I look at some of the BWI responses and their sense of victimization, and I wonder if they don't have the wrong victim -yes, of course those young men Sandusky abused - but the revelation of the crimes and the administrative cover up and the ensuing penalties victimizes the Big 10 and the individual institutions and were the RoBOTs to push this to such a point that the NCAA would feel pressured to revert to the original punishment of a four year death penalty, the conference and member schools would be even further punished.

There has to be a price for having a member school where such a lack of control was allowed to take place, and it doesn't seem beyond the reach of reason to think that administrators at the sister schools were aware of the amount of power Paterno had accumulated and said or did nothing. Academicians gossip too, and professional conferences bring people together where such topics are often openly discussed.

The other Big 10 schools can not help but be tarnished to some degree by the news itself as well as the outrageous and insensitive remarks found on the BWI threads, and by the notion outsiders will have that this is a conference where football, not academics, rules. It certainly has to amuse the private school folks at one end and SEC fans at the other.

We may be taking joy at the destruction Penn State is experiencing, but that destruction lowers the collective strength of the conference, the SOS for each school, the potential revenue for/from BTN and from the other networks. It destroys the assumed balance of Leaders and Legends, devalues the next decade of games with Penn State, threatens the conference championship game and weakens the conference's image and impact in the vital eastern market.

In short, fans at Big 10 schools should probably be feeling less joy and more anger and a sense of being victimized by the failures of Penn State.
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I share the sentiment of this entire post. Regret for what was happening to PSU framed the majority of my initial reaction to this entire episode. Yet I have come to celebrate daily each mishap that has befallen them.

Thank the message boards.

You can't read BWI and Audibles and not HATE those morons. The ignorance, lack of regret, willful blindness.... it is all too much. It is hard to remember that what we read now is a reduction of what once was.

Ironically I started going to Audibles when this story broke because over the years I had come to think of it as a reliable source for balanced views and information. That board is gone and may be a model of what will happen to the football team.

So you are correct. To the extent that we are part of the BIG we are laughing and pointing as they amputate one of our limbs.
 
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Hodgepodge;2192230; said:
So, just for shits and giggles, I decided to look at the Ped State DB depth chart.

Holy shit.

All the starters are new.

There are walkons in the two-deep at each of the four DB spots. Seriously. Every. Single. Position.

Now granted, I expect that some of their incoming frosh will bump out some of the walkons...but about those frosh....

Their best recruit, Da'Quan Davis had offers from WVU and Marshall in addition to PSU. Trevor Williams had an offer from WVU, but the next best offer is from Toledo, with VMI, Bryant, and Morgan State representing his other offers. Not exactly stellar recruits, but that is merely the top echelon of their recruits. It goes downhill from there. Jordan Lucas chose PSU over Temple and UMass. Jake Kiley picked PSU over New Hampshire.

So, what they have is an inexperienced starting four featuring one walk-on and backed by a scholarship upperclassman who couldn't beat out a walkon and a bunch of walkons and lightly recruited true freshmen.

And this is before scholarship reductions kick in.
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They've lost their top seven receiving threats from 2011.

#1 Derek Move, #3 Devon Smith, #4 Andrew Szczerba, #5 Joe Suhey, #7 Stephfon Green

Silas Reed & Justin Brown were #2 & #6.

Mike Zordich is their leading returning receiver (5 for 31 yards).

Luckily they have an all conference caliber kicker/punter to .... err wait.

Edit: Forgot to mention the OL lost 4 starters as well.
 
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Muck;2192531; said:
They've lost their top seven receiving threats from 2011.

#1 Derek Move, #3 Devon Smith, #4 Andrew Szczerba, #5 Joe Suhey, #7 Stephfon Green

Silas Reed & Justin Brown were #2 & #6.

Mike Zordich is their leading returning receiver (5 for 31 yards).

Luckily they have an all conference caliber kicker/punter to .... err wait.
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Nothin BOB cant handle. He coached TOM BRADY!!!!!
 
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Muck;2192531; said:
They've lost their top seven receiving threats from 2011.

#1 Derek Move, #3 Devon Smith, #4 Andrew Szczerba, #5 Joe Suhey, #7 Stephfon Green

Silas Reed & Justin Brown were #2 & #6.

Mike Zordich is their leading returning receiver (5 for 31 yards).
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Yes but this

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plus this

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divided by this

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equals

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If you can't see that you are obviously just another Pitt fan.
 
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Oh8ch;2192518; said:
You can't read BWI and Audibles and not HATE those morons. The ignorance, lack of regret, willful blindness.... it is all too much. It is hard to remember that what we read now is a reduction of what once was.
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I believe that message boards represent a vocal minority. I like to imagine that not all fans of all teams can be like that.

It keeps me from losing faith in humanity, anyway.
 
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