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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

Yep ... that definitely has to be him. Does not fit what I thought he would look like --- I pictured a relatively in-shape, spastic, crazy 30-something type.

I live in Northern Kentucky now but I am originally from Detroit and get up there for Holidays and such --- so I attend a PSU alumni chapter watch-party up there once every couple years or so. I'll keep my eyes open: I won't "out him or myself" but I may try to engage in conversation. "Outing" people isn't something I'm a fan of --- some d-bag linked to my linkedin profile (he put 2 and 2 together) once on BWI. It got taken down within 2 minutes but I definitely got uncomfortable.

On the other hand, he was one of the loudest voices arguing for tracking down Tug Speedwell to harass him, turn him over to the authorities (LOL) and try to get him fired over the rally 4 resignations stunt.
 
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If the cultists had your services they would have found tug speedwell a long time ago.
Yep ... that definitely has to be him. Does not fit what I thought he would look like --- I pictured a relatively in-shape, spastic, crazy 30-something type.

I live in Northern Kentucky now but I am originally from Detroit and get up there for Holidays and such --- so I attend a PSU alumni chapter watch-party up there once every couple years or so. I'll keep my eyes open: I won't "out him or myself" but I may try to engage in conversation. "Outing" people isn't something I'm a fan of --- some d-bag linked to my linkedin profile (he put 2 and 2 together) once on BWI. It got taken down within 2 minutes but I definitely got uncomfortable.
I don't like outing people either, but his identity is well known on the other board we both post on & he maintains a pretty public profile with his web page.
 
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I don't like outing people either, but his identity is well known on the other board we both post on & he maintains a pretty public profile with his web page.

Yeah, that's fine --- Keith (crap, we have the same first name: amazingly I am in my mid-30s and I have literally NEVER met another Keith at any point in my life) did put his identity out there himself on that other board. He put it in the public domain himself.

But that's admittedly why "409fold's alterego on BWI" will back off on conversations quite often and not get overly involved. It's not worth it. Lord knows they want to out CR66 over there too (thus far seemingly unsuccessful).

It's funny after reading how hated 9fold is on that other board --- I mean, that board discusses a rather benign topic!!! Guy obviously has anger issues.
 
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and try to get him fired

That might have been my favorite part - they wanted to find out who the real person was behind Tug Speedwell and get that person fired from his job. Like any employer would really care. I think as long as I wasn't breaking the law (or any MAJOR law, anyway), and I wasn't bringing any attention to my company, none of my supervisors would care. They'd probably be annoyed with the guy who brings this kind of thing to their attention.
 
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That might have been my favorite part - they wanted to find out who the real person was behind Tug Speedwell and get that person fired from his job. Like any employer would really care. I think as long as I wasn't breaking the law (or any MAJOR law, anyway), and I wasn't bringing any attention to my company, none of my supervisors would care. They'd probably be annoyed with the guy who brings this kind of thing to their attention.
He organized a rally that THEY wanted. Why would anyone even care?
 
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I have a superhuman tolerance for BWI bullshit, but that 1.000+post thread discussing McQueary's "more vivid" recollection even makes my eyes glaze over. The rest of the country has long ago formed an ironclad opinion on Joesus and his scandal, yet the BWI has a current 1,000-post thread debating the identity of "coach," pointing out that Gary Schultz really was the "police," that McQueary will get destroyed on cross examination, that PSU always does things the right way, that Joesus was given a watered down version of what happened, etc., etc.

http://bwi.forums.rivals.com/thread...vid-ten-years-later.30912/page-21#post-443604
 
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That might have been my favorite part - they wanted to find out who the real person was behind Tug Speedwell and get that person fired from his job. Like any employer would really care. I think as long as I wasn't breaking the law (or any MAJOR law, anyway), and I wasn't bringing any attention to my company, none of my supervisors would care. They'd probably be annoyed with the guy who brings this kind of thing to their attention.

Never mind the fact that I am my boss. Damn it, I would have been furious with myself if BWI had managed to alert me to what I had been up to.
 
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Oh, Jesus Effing Christ; Audibles with a fresh thread about how the Big 10 refs won't let the Pedsters win, that a video should be made of all the times the Pedsters were screwed over by the refs, that OSU players choke opponents on the bottom of a pile and that OSU players drive expensive cars.

http://www.scout.com/college/penn-s...24239-osu-game-assistance-will-only-get-worse

nitlionfan: "I know this has been covered ad nauseam, but after watching last year's osu game again, I am convinced that the B1G refs will not allow us to win a game against osu. Every time I watch this replay I catch another boneheaded call by the refs. It was just out of control.

With osu now being the media and B1G darlings even more now after last year's success, this treatment will get even worse in the years to follow.

Hard to stomach."

MicahAndMe: "Every time this comes up, I put out a plea to tech-savvy college students (or high schoolers!).

Create a slick and funny and clearly-communicated YouTube video of the 2014 OSU game with the litany of "questionable" calls that went OSU's way. It would take about 5-6 hours to make (watching the game/cutting clips/editing/adding music and sound effects).

There are tens of thousands of college football fans who either A) hate the Big Ten or B) hate OSU or C) hate anyone who is NOT their personal favorite school who would love to watch how the Big Ten assisted Ohio State in the one game where they could have lost their shot at the CFP. If this kind of video went viral, then it would be part of folk lore that "OSU got help from the Big Ten" and that is the best we can do to make the Big Ten play fairly in the future.

If/when PSU complains, that makes the refs more determined to screw us (see JoePa running that ref down after the Iowa game in 2002!). But if the media turns their attention to it and the college football masses know, then there is some legitimate pressure to get it right."

Trig3: "Don't worry. Soon your post will be receiving the following replies:

1. bad calls even out during a game
2. bad calls even out during a season
3. bad calls even out over a decade or two or three
4. the bad calls square the Nebraska game in 1982
5. refs don't cost teams games
6. you have to overcome bad calls by playing better
7. everybody gets bad calls
8. Penn State has benefitted from bad calls just as much as they've been hurt
9. OSU and Michigan get bad calls, too, but they ovedrcome them
10. can I borrow your tin-foil hat?
11. you crybabies and your conspiracy theories
12. there is no profession more honest and noble than football officials in the Big ten"

97eegr: "It's all about money. The B1G proved what is most important to them last with Penn State vs. Ohio State."

BBG65: "The calls are not bad, moronic or boneheaded. They are intentional and very successful in accomplishing their purpose. Until enough of the right people recognize this, nothing will be done. Remember, years ago, when Delaney said "How dare anyone question the integrity of our officials?" The media has to lead the questioning of their integrity and stick with it. We've had a triple whammy over the years. First, we were the interlopers, then sent to the basement because of the Sandusky scandal and now, it is to the advantage of the conference to send a team [OSU] to the playoffs. The officials grease the wheels for that to happen."


PSU92and95: "That's a nice sentiment.... "grow the f up - it was last year"..... it would be an appropriate response if this nonsense were a one time thing. For those of you spending $2000+ a year for season tickets at PSU, how long should we just sit back and wait for "bad calls to level out?" I would think with the millions of dollars being reeled in by this conference, we would have the premier officiating in all of college football. Why do they continue to blow major calls on prime time national television... supposedly a showcase of two of the main players in the league?

That's also a nice sentiment... "just beat them up to take the refs out of it"... It's a shame we can't have a close game in this conference without biased/incompetent officiating determining the outcome. I enjoy exciting games that come down to the wire. As long as it's a fair game, I don't even mind if PSU comes out on the short end. But the way we have been routinely treated by this conference is just inexcusable.

O$U is a team whose players choke opponents at the bottom of a pile, has players showing up to practice in expensive cars, all while the freakin' BIG TEN looks the other way."

PSUDave1: "Bosa ripping the helmet off of Hack while he was going to the ground. A ref was standing there watching it happen. Instead of 15 yards and a first down, PSU had to punt from the back of the endzone. This gave osu a short field and a touchdown."

agent496: "This +1000. That was one of the most egregious calls/non-calls of the game. I've never seen a defensive player rip the helmet right off the QBs head by his facemask and not even draw a flag. Hack was already down and defenseless when that scumbag Bosa ripped his helmet off his head by his facemask. I was expecting an ejection at best and a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty at the very least. Not to mention the TO the refs called for Urban Legend that he never called, but befitted OSU greatly. It can't get any worse."

psuram3: "OSU's phantom timeout on our field goal attempt to tie the game, they had 12 players on the field conveniently when that timeout that Urban didn't call happened."

MilesKaufman: "I listed them earlier: I counted 8.

8.

Each and every one of them going Ohio State's way.

8."

Truckster27: "Where it gets harder to stomach is when it happens, these Refs are not held accountable. In other games NOT PSU, refs have been held accountable, investigated, even dismissed. That makes it more difficult, when our conference seems to be indifferent to it."

PSUPirate: "Ok, how about the officials let every Penn State drive start at the OSU 20 this year? I mean, you'd still have a chance to defend so it would still be fair."

Lion4Life2: "I am just as infuriated about the blown calls and I think those calls definitely tipped the '03 and the '14 games in their favor."
 
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Oh, Jesus Effing Christ; Audibles with a fresh thread about how the Big 10 refs won't let the Pedsters win, that a video should be made of all the times the Pedsters were screwed over by the refs, that OSU players choke opponents on the bottom of a pile and that OSU players drive expensive cars.

http://www.scout.com/college/penn-s...24239-osu-game-assistance-will-only-get-worse

nitlionfan: "I know this has been covered ad nauseam, but after watching last year's osu game again, I am convinced that the B1G refs will not allow us to win a game against osu. Every time I watch this replay I catch another boneheaded call by the refs. It was just out of control.

With osu now being the media and B1G darlings even more now after last year's success, this treatment will get even worse in the years to follow.

Hard to stomach."

MicahAndMe: "Every time this comes up, I put out a plea to tech-savvy college students (or high schoolers!).

Create a slick and funny and clearly-communicated YouTube video of the 2014 OSU game with the litany of "questionable" calls that went OSU's way. It would take about 5-6 hours to make (watching the game/cutting clips/editing/adding music and sound effects).

There are tens of thousands of college football fans who either A) hate the Big Ten or B) hate OSU or C) hate anyone who is NOT their personal favorite school who would love to watch how the Big Ten assisted Ohio State in the one game where they could have lost their shot at the CFP. If this kind of video went viral, then it would be part of folk lore that "OSU got help from the Big Ten" and that is the best we can do to make the Big Ten play fairly in the future.

If/when PSU complains, that makes the refs more determined to screw us (see JoePa running that ref down after the Iowa game in 2002!). But if the media turns their attention to it and the college football masses know, then there is some legitimate pressure to get it right."

Trig3: "Don't worry. Soon your post will be receiving the following replies:

1. bad calls even out during a game
2. bad calls even out during a season
3. bad calls even out over a decade or two or three
4. the bad calls square the Nebraska game in 1982
5. refs don't cost teams games
6. you have to overcome bad calls by playing better
7. everybody gets bad calls
8. Penn State has benefitted from bad calls just as much as they've been hurt
9. OSU and Michigan get bad calls, too, but they ovedrcome them
10. can I borrow your tin-foil hat?
11. you crybabies and your conspiracy theories
12. there is no profession more honest and noble than football officials in the Big ten"

97eegr: "It's all about money. The B1G proved what is most important to them last with Penn State vs. Ohio State."

BBG65: "The calls are not bad, moronic or boneheaded. They are intentional and very successful in accomplishing their purpose. Until enough of the right people recognize this, nothing will be done. Remember, years ago, when Delaney said "How dare anyone question the integrity of our officials?" The media has to lead the questioning of their integrity and stick with it. We've had a triple whammy over the years. First, we were the interlopers, then sent to the basement because of the Sandusky scandal and now, it is to the advantage of the conference to send a team [OSU] to the playoffs. The officials grease the wheels for that to happen."


PSU92and95: "That's a nice sentiment.... "grow the f up - it was last year"..... it would be an appropriate response if this nonsense were a one time thing. For those of you spending $2000+ a year for season tickets at PSU, how long should we just sit back and wait for "bad calls to level out?" I would think with the millions of dollars being reeled in by this conference, we would have the premier officiating in all of college football. Why do they continue to blow major calls on prime time national television... supposedly a showcase of two of the main players in the league?

That's also a nice sentiment... "just beat them up to take the refs out of it"... It's a shame we can't have a close game in this conference without biased/incompetent officiating determining the outcome. I enjoy exciting games that come down to the wire. As long as it's a fair game, I don't even mind if PSU comes out on the short end. But the way we have been routinely treated by this conference is just inexcusable.

O$U is a team whose players choke opponents at the bottom of a pile, has players showing up to practice in expensive cars, all while the freakin' BIG TEN looks the other way."

PSUDave1: "Bosa ripping the helmet off of Hack while he was going to the ground. A ref was standing there watching it happen. Instead of 15 yards and a first down, PSU had to punt from the back of the endzone. This gave osu a short field and a touchdown."

agent496: "This +1000. That was one of the most egregious calls/non-calls of the game. I've never seen a defensive player rip the helmet right off the QBs head by his facemask and not even draw a flag. Hack was already down and defenseless when that scumbag Bosa ripped his helmet off his head by his facemask. I was expecting an ejection at best and a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty at the very least. Not to mention the TO the refs called for Urban Legend that he never called, but befitted OSU greatly. It can't get any worse."

psuram3: "OSU's phantom timeout on our field goal attempt to tie the game, they had 12 players on the field conveniently when that timeout that Urban didn't call happened."

MilesKaufman: "I listed them earlier: I counted 8.

8.

Each and every one of them going Ohio State's way.

8."

Truckster27: "Where it gets harder to stomach is when it happens, these Refs are not held accountable. In other games NOT PSU, refs have been held accountable, investigated, even dismissed. That makes it more difficult, when our conference seems to be indifferent to it."

PSUPirate: "Ok, how about the officials let every Penn State drive start at the OSU 20 this year? I mean, you'd still have a chance to defend so it would still be fair."

Lion4Life2: "I am just as infuriated about the blown calls and I think those calls definitely tipped the '03 and the '14 games in their favor."

PedState: They're about nothing if not about justice.
 
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They literally can not come to grips with never having dominated the conference like 100% of them were 100% sure would happen. Anyone who wants to see them get what they want and run off to play in some weakass ACC North where they're guaranteed 10 win seasons isn't doing this right.
 
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