Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[colobuck79]

New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/sports/athletes-who-need-bathroom-break-must-improvise.html?_r=0

When a lavatory is available, it’s best to jog there with head held high. When Joe Paterno left the field twice during a Penn State-Ohio State game in 2006, his sense of purpose would no doubt have impressed Waitz or Pippig. May we all move so swiftly at 80, under any circumstances.
“I got off the field and did a couple of things, and then I got back on the field,” Paterno said of the minor virus that befell him.
There may be a correlation between visits to the bathroom and the quality of the game: Paterno’s Nittany Lions were enduring a 28-6 blowout, and the Mets were snoozing through a 10-0 loss when Pagan slipped away Monday night. Such lopsided affairs lend themselves to extensive trips to the reading room.

 

[Zurp]

http://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/i-have-never-seen-any.17331/page-2
(same thread)

That mbahses guy is going down with guns a'blazin'

Snopes confirmed Joe never shit himself. Unlike some tOSU and Michie trolls..

Never happened. TOSU troll admitted he comped the whole thing. Snopes confirmed the lie.

Someone posts that there's nothing about in on Snopes and posts the video.

Marked as a lie.

Someone points out that 80-year-olds shit their pants sometimes.

He may have in private, but not at tOSU which is a proven LIE!

 

[gmen6981]

OK, who has a troll account over on Audibles to set this monkeyfuck straight?
Guy asks how many MNCs the Pedsters can claim,
http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/forums/1395-audibles-board/13902768-national-championships

Guy replies claiming that the NCAA recognizes 7 using a Penn State site as a source
http://jimspennstatefootball.webs.com/PSUMNC.htm

Even though that PSU site claims the NCAA website as a source, if you look at their list, you see this
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

Somebody needs to set the record striaght, and I got banned a year ago!

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

OK, who has a troll account over on Audibles to set this monkeyfuck straight?
Guy asks how many MNCs the Pedsters can claim,
http://www.scout.com/college/penn-state/forums/1395-audibles-board/13902768-national-championships

Guy replies claiming that the NCAA recognizes 7 using a Penn State site as a source
http://jimspennstatefootball.webs.com/PSUMNC.htm

Even though that PSU site claims the NCAA website as a source, if you look at their list, you see this
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs

Somebody needs to set the record striaght, and I got banned a year ago!

4 total, including only 2 since 1912.

 

[gmen6981]

4 total, including only 2 since 1912.

Yeah, that's what I got too, but the site the numbnuts linked to (some kind of PSU blog) tries to claim 1994, 1969 and one other one.
They just won't give up about 94! idiots.

 

[Zurp]

What about 2005, 2008, and 2012?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Yeah, that's what I got too, but the site the numbnuts linked to (some kind of PSU blog) tries to claim 1994, 1969 and one other one.
They just won't give up about 94! idiots.

The entities that gave them the title in 1969 are FACT and Sagarin (ELO-Chess), neither of which are recognized.
Those that awarded them the title in 1994 are DeVold, Eck, FACT, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times, and Sagarin, none of which are recognized except the National Championship Foundation which is only recognized for titles for 1935 are earlier (i.e., prior to the implementation of the AP poll in 1936).

From 1936 and afterward, the only recognized entities are the AP poll, the UPI/coaches poll, the Football Writers Association of America poll, and the National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame poll, in addition to the BCS and now CFP systems. So their claims to 1969 and 1994 are void.

 

[gmen6981]

The entities that gave them the title in 1969 are FACT and Sagarin (ELO-Chess), neither of which are recognized.
Those that awarded them the title in 1994 are DeVold, Eck, FACT, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times, and Sagarin, none of which are recognized except the National Championship Foundation which is only recognized for titles for 1935 are earlier (i.e., prior to the implementation of the AP poll in 1936).

From 1936 and afterward, the only recognized entities are the AP poll, the UPI/coaches poll, the Football Writers Association of America poll, and the National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame poll, in addition to the BCS and now CFP systems. So their claims to 1969 and 1994 are void.

That was my point........ the guy claimed those three years were recognized By the NCAA, showing this list from a PSU Blog



Note the link to the NCAA website which shows this...
http://www.ncaa.com/history/football/fbs
(tried to do a screenshot but couldn't get the whole page)

The guy doesn't even know the difference between the two sites.
I knew his post wasn't valid because of the awarding organizations, but they will go any length to make themselves seem more relevant than they are.

 

[409fold]

I'm wondering whatever happened to 9fold. He hasn't seemed to have posted over on BWI for a couple months.

Since everyone who got banned on Rivals got blanket amnesty with the board-switch, I'm going to pull out 409fold again and try to draw him out. I will have to be discreet though, not be too obvious, but life is a little more boring over there without that "ultimate internet tough guy" ...........

 

[409fold]

So their claims to 1969 and 1994 are void.

Penn State fans can claim the 1994 MNC (I myself always call it a "split title") --- besides, there's a M in MNC anyway.

I'm not saying they would have defeated Nebraska in 1994, but PSU was undefeated and the expert opinion on "who would win" is not always right. Witness Ohio State 2002.

If Ohio State 2002 had happened just 5 years earlier (before the B1G entered the BCS), OSU would have likely defeated (in a re-match) a very good but not elite Washington State team in Pasadena, and Miami would have likely defeated SEC Champion Georgia (again very good but not elite, they lost a regular-season game to 8-5 Florida) in some Alliance Bowl. And 2002 Ohio State would have been just like 1994 Penn State --- #2 by a wide-margin in the polls, but only because they never got a chance to prove themselves #1.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Penn State fans can claim the 1994 MNC (I myself always call it a "split title") --- besides, there's a M in MNC anyway.

Uh, no...they can't. If it's not one of the aforementioned entities then the title claims are bullshit. Ohio State can claim national titles for years other than the eight that they do, based upon titles awarded by other entities, but they don't.

 

[409fold]

Uh, no...they can't. If it's not one of the aforementioned entities then the title claims are bull[Mark May]. Ohio State can claim national titles for years other than the eight that they do, based upon titles awarded by other entities, but they don't.

Of course fans can (you knew exactly what you were doing when you excluded the word "fans" after "Ohio State" above). It's not like the school itself is claiming it. They're mythical anyway! Who cares?

Let's be honest about 2 things:

(1) Counting National Championships and begrudging someone else one is just a form of a "D***-measuring contest." Ohio State already is in the elite in college football history anyway, you already have the pretty girl.

(2) If my hypothetical 2002 situation had happened, some Buckeyes fans would be claiming an MNC also. WHICH IS FINE!

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I remember as a high schooler going to my first OSU-PSU game in HV, seeing "1994 New York Times National Champions" on the side of the stadium and laughing my ass of at how pathetic it was. This was long before my well established hatred had reached the level it's at now.

 

[kujirakira]

I can't stand the roar either, whether it be Ped State, Northwestern, etc...

But I've seen plenty of people in Ohio Stadium not get loud until they hear the sound of the bell on third downs. Is that not the same thing? Sorry to play devils advocate there.

I haven't paid close attention, but I'd point out 2 things:
- the roar is obnoxiously noticeable ... Hell's Bells is mostly lower frequencies and not as intrusive ? The turkey gobble is even more obnoxious.
- seems like that roar happens a lot more frequently than just 3rd downs ... and that plays a very large part in its annoyance for me. If it was occasional... ok, whatever... do your obligatory sound effects. That guy has to justify his paycheck somehow.

It kind of reminds me of some of those WC countries that use vuvulas and excessive bands and crap... as opposed to just good ol' fashioned singing/chanting... which I find much more impressive, even by teams I don't like.

Is this troll-burn-worthy?

http://bwi.forums.rivals.com/thread...reatest-football-coach-that-ever-lived.17631/

"When Joe inserted all those sophomores into the Miami game in 1967, and installed his famed 4-4-3 defense, he showed that athletes that could "run" could be as or more effective than the behemoths that marked prior great defenses. "

So now he invented the 44 defense in 1967...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Of course fans can (you knew exactly what you were doing when you excluded the word "fans" after "Ohio State" above). It's not like the school itself is claiming it. They're mythical anyway! Who cares?