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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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Delaware Buck said:
Jerry's innocence as told by Ziegler and others

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The best part is Ziegler is getting this from some speculation provided by none other than the attorney that defending michael jackson on his kidding groping charges. I mean, if a black albino with a pet monkey, amusement park in his back yard, and a proclivity for snuggling with strange random boys in bed didn't go to jail, then clearly sandusky must be innocent.

Also, all the victims were lying and MM's testimony was forceably embellished at the behest of the detectives on the case to pacify the media's blood lust.
 
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Delaware Buck said:
Jerry's innocence as told by Ziegler and others

https://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=179816171&mid=179816171&sid=890&style=2
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I tend to agree but with some reservations. Something was clearly wrong with Sandusky, but I do have a nagging question in my mind about what level his molestation or pedophilia rose to. Was it "inappropriate" showers, touching and wrestling/horsing around or were there actual sex acts involved or something in between? That may not matter as to his ultimate fate in the legal system and whether he rots there or not, but it would have mattered a lot as to the public perception of Joe, PSU, etc.
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that quote tells you all you need to know. It certainly doesn't seem to me like this guy is trolling. He's honestly drawing a line between just "handsy" molestation and "penile penetration" molestation, but only in the arena where it really counts....public perception of Joe and PSU.

These are the fucking people who those of us stuck in PA have to deal with. I'm sure this guy is normal in any other aspect of life. But if you want to talk about Penn State, the total ignorance of what child molestation is and what it can do to the ACTUAL victim is completely maddening.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
that quote tells you all you need to know. It certainly doesn't seem to me like this guy is trolling. He's honestly drawing a line between just "handsy" molestation and "penile penetration" molestation, but only in the arena where it really counts....public perception of Joe and PSU.

These are the fucking people who those of us stuck in PA have to deal with. I'm sure this guy is normal in any other aspect of life. But if you want to talk about Penn State, the total ignorance of what child molestation is and what it can do to the ACTUAL victim is completely maddening.
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I can't like this post because you are absolutely, unequivocally, 100% correct.

There is nothing redeeming about any of those people.
 
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AJHawkfan said:
Cult doing cult things.....

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Re: The Crux of Mike McQueray Matter. Reply

McQueary had way too many issues of his own to tell the truth about anything. He was a vindictive gambler. He was in deep on a co ed and his wife knew about it and left him. His Dad knows he is a raging liar. He told JoePa next to nothing and JoePa still reported it !!!!!

This is the case used to hang Jerry.

Give a crotal a voice and listen to what you get.

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Re: The Crux of Mike McQueray Matter.Reply

McQueary had way too many issues of his own to tell the truth about anything. He was a vindictive gambler. He was in deep on a co ed and his wife knew about it and left him. His Dad knows he is a raging liar. He told JoePa next to nothing and JoePa still reported it !!!!!

What was posted: This is the case used to hang Jerry.
What was intended: This is the case used to hang Joeped.

Give a crotal a voice and listen to what you get.

N i t t a n y A m e r i c a
 
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AJHawkfan said:
Cult doing cult things.....

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If the witness had only called the police right after witnessing whatever it was he saw.
Or after calling his dad for advice while on the premises.
Or after apparently talking to his girlfriend while on the way over to his dad's house.
Or after talking to his dad face to face.
Or after talking to his dad's close advisor face to face.
Or, before putting his head down on the pillow to get some sleep.
And so on…for close to a decade.
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Yup. McQueary deserves some hellish treatment that I can't administer. I can buy that he's shocked to the point of not thinking clearly for some time after he witnessed "the event". How much time? I don't know. Let's say a week. Every day he didn't report to the police what he saw, in my opinion, is another day he ACTIVELY covered up a child predator.

And Joe Paterno, in telling McQueary that he would handle it, has joined McQueary in covering up for a child predator. Every day.

Edit - you know, the more I think about it, the dad and the "advisor" don't come out very clean, either. Advise him to go talk to the head football coach? His boss? The sicko's boss? I think that THAT fact, more than anything, tells me that the public perception of those close to (but not directly in) the Penn State culture believed that Joe Paterno ran that town/society/cult. If you see something sick like that, you go to the authorities. I think that McQueary's dad and this "advisor" (whatever that means) saw Joe Paterno as an authority.
 
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Zurp said:
Yup. McQueary deserves some hellish treatment that I can't administer. I can buy that he's shocked to the point of not thinking clearly for some time after he witnessed "the event". How much time? I don't know. Let's say a week. Every day he didn't report to the police what he saw, in my opinion, is another day he ACTIVELY covered up a child predator.

And Joe Paterno, in telling McQueary that he would handle it, has joined McQueary in covering up for a child predator. Every day.

Edit - you know, the more I think about it, the dad and the "advisor" don't come out very clean, either. Advise him to go talk to the head football coach? His boss? The sicko's boss? I think that THAT fact, more than anything, tells me that the public perception of those close to (but not directly in) the Penn State culture believed that Joe Paterno ran that town/society/cult. If you see something sick like that, you go to the authorities. I think that McQueary's dad and this "advisor" (whatever that means) saw Joe Paterno as an authority.
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of course they did. and that post is just dripping with irony. theybash McQueary all day long (rightfully so) for not going to the police for 10 years. Yet none of them have any problem with Paterno not going to the police. They've convinced themselves that he got out the handbook of "What do I do now?" that Jesus himself wrote, and followed it word for word.
 
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