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Pc builds, upgrades, advice

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@jwinslow I see you tagged me... been busy at work and i’ll take a look this weekend... to be completely honest, I’m gonna have to a bit of research as the last couple of years i’ve been researching and acquiring used Xeon processors for homelab fun :)

edit: i see your looking at AMD... i think the newest version of the ryzen supposedly coming out in Sept ...
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
@jwinslow I see you tagged me... been busy at work and i’ll take a look this weekend... to be completely honest, I’m gonna have to a bit of research as the last couple of years i’ve been researching and acquiring used Xeon processors for homelab fun :)

edit: i see your looking at AMD... i think the newest version of the ryzen supposedly coming out in Sept ...
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Loved those Xeons... had a dual CPU Xeon Dell box a number of years ago. At the time it was amazingly fast. When it finally gave up I opened the case, which frankly was the best built WinTel-purpose-built cases I've ever had and the air ducts (not joking, there were air ducts) had started melting due to the heat kicked off.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
@jwinslow I see you tagged me... been busy at work and i’ll take a look this weekend... to be completely honest, I’m gonna have to a bit of research as the last couple of years i’ve been researching and acquiring used Xeon processors for homelab fun :)

edit: i see your looking at AMD... i think the newest version of the ryzen supposedly coming out in Sept ...
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Thanks I went ahead and went for it. My next build can be next gen. Also need to know if we are still in business by October
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
Loved those Xeons... had a dual CPU Xeon Dell box a number of years ago. At the time it was amazingly fast. When it finally gave up I opened the case, which frankly was the best built WinTel-purpose-built cases I've ever had and the air ducts (not joking, there were air ducts) had started melting due to the heat kicked off.
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LOL ... unfortunately I live in Texas otherwise i could shut off my heater and just vent from Home Lab Rack throughout the house for heat...
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
Sorry didn’t get back to you sooner...
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No problem at all. I ended up bumping up to the fatality board.

I like this case but the mesh top is a little concerning for the off chance of something spilling from the top of a desk.

Excited to see what the next gen brings. This mid gen set didn't do much other than offer lower prices for the 3700-3900x kits, which is perfect.

It's also interesting that my 5 year old Rx 9 390 is still a very capable card for photo work. I didn't really expect to be able to keep using that one.

One of the more ridiculous things is that nvme drives, AMD CPUs offer monstrous upgrades at bargain prices. Ram isn't too bad either. Meanwhile I'm paying more than double for the same psu I bought 5 years ago.

Very odd market with covid.
 
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LOL ... nope Everything local.. f the cloud ... Spectrum is my only high speed option and i need to keep as much content local as possible for when they start capping
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I get that for tinkering. That said, I can’t provision anything physical or otherwise locally that I can on GCP which is my focus... but even then, I’m also provisioning R5d.24s in AWS right now that are 5x96x768 (node x cpu x gRAM) for like $6.50 / hour CPU. I can’t touch that performance with anything local. I’m ripping through 15Billion records in 4 seconds for a visualization application that we’re developing right now. Can’t even touch that shit locally.
 
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Man, I just now saw this, my bad. Like AuTx, I've been super busy at work with deadlines in our sprints.

I'd agree with Tx - how soon do you need the new system, and can you wait until the new Ryzens come out in the next month or so?

Also - I tried to source some parts for a custom build for my church, and it was a real PITA because everyone is buying up stock right now, as a good chunk of the country is WFH right now, so take it when you can get it, :rofl:
 
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alexhortdog95 said:
Man, I just now saw this, my bad. Like AuTx, I've been super busy at work with deadlines in our sprints.

I'd agree with Tx - how soon do you need the new system, and can you wait until the new Ryzens come out in the next month or so?

Also - I tried to source some parts for a custom build for my church, and it was a real PITA because everyone is buying up stock right now, as a good chunk of the country is WFH right now, so take it when you can get it, :rofl:
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I read some building forums and they all said that microcenter is like black friday right now :huh:

I'm really enjoying this build. It doesn't fix Lightroom's terrible programming nor get rid of all of the lag, but it wildly improves the time needed to do passive tasks like importing and exporting.

I need 2, probably 3 of these. I may wait on one with uncertainty with covid, but I figured this was a pretty good deal for 3900x, and I'll keep my r9 alive with that kit.

Then go bigger with the next one with next gen.

I also own 4 9750 laptops with 2070 or 1660s inside, but those are constantly traveling to events and I need something stationary for office editing. If they're home it's for 1-2 days tops per week, and they lack tb3 for 10gb access.
 
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@jwinslow what monitor(s) do you use? That's always my hangup when I look at and think about building a PC to move the bulk of my editing off of my laptop. Picking the rest of the hardware seems pretty straightforward (and hearing your r9 still holds up well for the task confirms my inclination to just go with a 580 if I build any time in the near future), but I always get stuck on the monitor. The more I look the more I'm just inclined to go with a Benq despite it likely being almost half the cost of the build I would tend towards.
 
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@jwinslow what monitor(s) do you use? That's always my hangup when I look at and think about building a PC to move the bulk of my editing off of my laptop. Picking the rest of the hardware seems pretty straightforward (and hearing your r9 still holds up well for the task confirms my inclination to just go with a 580 if I build any time in the near future), but I always get stuck on the monitor. The more I look the more I'm just inclined to go with a Benq despite it likely being almost half the cost of the build I would tend towards.
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I like BenQ. I may go with one of those for the next gen build. I ended up finding a great deal on an Asus 4 years ago, back when BenQ monitors were rarely ever affordable.

asus p328q is the model. Recently it's developed this annoying habit of losing the full gradient spectrum when color corrected, so I don't think I'll buy another. It's that way with all machines hooked up to it. I may also look into another color calibration besides x-rite.

I have a very accurate Dell 32" . Most of my editing monitors are 2k. I don't need 4k, it takes more to drive them and it just oversells minor imperfections that aren't necessarily an issue on the actual print.

Almost all of my work is srgb, so I don't necessarily need 100% Adobe rgb. Many vendors don't support it.

I was considering this monitor for one of my employees:
https://slickdeals.net/f/14207831-p...0-at-costco?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

I need to read up on it more but it looked ok on the surface for secondary station monitors (can't spend $400-700 across the board)
 
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So here's a potentially simpler question @AuTX Buckeye @alexhortdog95 and others. I'm building a new network to add 10gb support for my nas (ts-873) and have more stations.

Would it be helpful to have two pipelines to reach my primary switch? One for the 2-3 10gb PC's in the basement, and one for the 4-8 1gb connections for laptops and printers?

I'm imagining a scenario where downstairs internet or server bandwidth is fighting with the other, all traveling on the same line. I already have to drop another line anyway for a downstairs wireless router.

If my uneducated guess is right, I was thinking of splitting the downstairs switch into a standard 1gb switch and a smaller 10gb switch.


Any other problems you see with my crude mockup?

The run to the basement is probably 40-50'.

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jwinslow said:
So here's a potentially simpler question @AuTX Buckeye @alexhortdog95 and others. I'm building a new network to add 10gb support for my nas (ts-873) and have more stations.

Would it be helpful to have two pipelines to reach my primary switch? One for the 2-3 10gb PC's in the basement, and one for the 4-8 1gb connections for laptops and printers?

I'm imagining a scenario where downstairs internet or server bandwidth is fighting with the other, all traveling on the same line. I already have to drop another line anyway for a downstairs wireless router.

If my uneducated guess is right, I was thinking of splitting the downstairs switch into a standard 1gb switch and a smaller 10gb switch.


Any other problems you see with my crude mockup?

The run to the basement is probably 40-50'.

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I’d bet money right now you’re not even close to saturating the 1GB link. The other thing about 10G is you need to go fiber.. 10GBE I’ve seen too many people melting cards trying to do that over copper
 
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