Pac-12 (official thread)

[ScriptOhio]

'M IN. I've had no idea what to feel about this new ACC/Big Ten/Pac-12 "alliance," mostly because it's just seemed so nebulous and hypothetical.

But I have to say, the Pac-12 commissioner has me sold.



The global pandemic certainly was not very good at all, but one positive is that it taught us we don't *actually* have to schedule games 10 years in advance. I mean, BYU and Coastal Carolina managed to get a game together in a couple of weeks when they realized they were both going to be undefeated at the end of the season.

I'm not saying we need to do that, but there's no reason we can't have a situation like the ACC/Big Ten Challenge in basketball where teams are matched up based on how they finish last year.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...h-games-on-the-horizon-and-the-new-scheduling

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

'M IN. I've had no idea what to feel about this new ACC/Big Ten/Pac-12 "alliance," mostly because it's just seemed so nebulous and hypothetical.

But I have to say, the Pac-12 commissioner has me sold.



The global pandemic certainly was not very good at all, but one positive is that it taught us we don't *actually* have to schedule games 10 years in advance. I mean, BYU and Coastal Carolina managed to get a game together in a couple of weeks when they realized they were both going to be undefeated at the end of the season.

I'm not saying we need to do that, but there's no reason we can't have a situation like the ACC/Big Ten Challenge in basketball where teams are matched up based on how they finish last year.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...h-games-on-the-horizon-and-the-new-scheduling

 

[Jake]

BYU is 4-0 vs PAC 12 teams. The Mormons have losses to 3-4 Boise State and Baylor.

 

[ScriptOhio]

BYU is 4-0 vs PAC 12 teams. The Mormons have losses to 3-4 Boise State and Baylor.

BYU should have scheduled UCLA and Colorado in lieu of Washington State and one of the cupcakes; they could have won the PAC-12 South as an independent.....

 

[DubCoffman62]

The Pac 12 will continual to be in decline for major sports as the demographics change and the dominant demographic being more suited for soccer than football and basketball. I go to high school football games here in the Phoenix area and the quality of local talent is appalling.

 

[DubCoffman62]

LSU is going to hammer UCLA

 

[ScriptOhio]

 

[CincyInterloper]

This type of scheduling could be helpful in determining who gets in the CFP. I’d love to see undefeated teams having a weak strength of schedule matched up with a tough opponent near the end of the season to find out how good they really are. Could be a better solution than expansion.

 

[TampaBuckeyes]

With the big then, acc and pac doing this it brings us to 8 conference games plus 2 GREAT OOC games to watch for each team. No one from those conferences would schedule another big game game with their remaining two. So sec can go suck a dildo and schedule more fcs teams. Sec gets more undefeated teams at the end of the year. Other conferences automatically add 50% more losses and their rankings drop. CFP finally collapses when Sec gets all the spots. Or the alliance would have to make a stand on the playoff requirements.
too bad it will never happen

 

[Dryden]

Long interview of Kliavkoff with the LA Times. He's still stumping for the 8+1+1 inter-Alliance model, and is prepared to go Pac-12/Big Ten challenge as soon as the 2022 regular season if the Big Ten will also drop a conference game.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/stor...george-kliavkoff-pac-12-conference-challenges

In your preamble you mentioned a lot of areas you are beginning to analyze — anything from scheduling, divisions, structuring the championship game. Are there any areas where you feel close to an answer?

Kliavkoff: We’re not ready to announce anything, but I’ve been public about the fact we’re ready to go from nine conference games to eight immediately. The issue is everybody else is booked. We would not be able to fill those games in if we decided to do that. The fastest path to get there is if the Big Ten decided to do the same thing, and then we could just schedule 12 games against the Big Ten, and we’d be happy to do that for next season. The Big Ten is not ready to make that move yet, and it’s not my place to put them on a timeline to do that. They’re in the middle of their media rights negotiations. The minute the Big Ten is ready to play 12 games against us every year, we’re ready.

I’ve also been very public about the fact I think it makes no sense that college football is scheduled 10 to 12 years in advance, and I think there will be opportunities there that will be created once some of the conference realignment happens. When the SEC goes from 14 to 16 teams, they will likely have to step up from eight to nine conference games, and we have a lot of out-of-conference games scheduled against the SEC over the next 15 years. Some of those will free up by mutual agreement. I also think when BYU joins the Big 12, they’re going to free up a lot of their schedule too. We have five games against BYU this year in our conference. They will not be able to play five Pac-12 teams every year with a full Big 12 schedule. There are other examples like that. But we have to change the system, and the easiest way to change the system is where we commit to playing eight conference games and one Big Ten team and one ACC team out of conference every year.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

JBook just throwing shit out there as usual. Allegedly some USC fans want to join the B1G so they don't get left behind by Rutgers when it comes to cash-money.

 

[Don Muenz]

And people in hell want a cold beer.

 

[DubCoffman62]

JBook just throwing shit out there as usual. Allegedly some USC fans want to join the B1G so they don't get left behind by Rutgers when it comes to cash-money.

IU'll repeat myself, the future looks bleak for the Pac-12. The demographic shift has left the talent pool dry. When I moved here 25 years ago I was a Friday Night Lights kind of guy, I would go to a high school football game every Friday and there were some pretty good teams and lots of division one recruits. I quit going out about ten years ago because the talent because so bad the games were like watching pee wee football. I've seen 3A teams come to town from around the state and absolutely work over 4 and 5A teams. It's not that the 3A teams are that good, it's that the city teams are that bad. All of the good basketball schools are the private academies that recruit from around the country. There's a few decent basketball recruits but not like back in the day. There's a school about a mile away from me that one year had 3 major division 1 recruits, one went to Stanford, one to Indiana and one to Wake Forest. They were all local kids too. Basketball hasn't fallen as far as football here but it's definitely not what it used to be.

 

[Thump]

And people in hell want a cold beer.

Like Joe Paterno.

 

[Thump]

IU'll repeat myself, the future looks bleak for the Pac-12. The demographic shift has left the talent pool dry. When I moved here 25 years ago I was a Friday Night Lights kind of guy, I would go to a high school football game every Friday and there were some pretty good teams and lots of division one recruits. I quit going out about ten years ago because the talent because so bad the games were like watching pee wee football. I've seen 3A teams come to town from around the state and absolutely work over 4 and 5A teams. It's not that the 3A teams are that good, it's that the city teams are that bad. All of the good basketball schools are the private academies that recruit from around the country. There's a few decent basketball recruits but not like back in the day. There's a school about a mile away from me that one year had 3 major division 1 recruits, one went to Stanford, one to Indiana and one to Wake Forest. They were all local kids too. Basketball hasn't fallen as far as football here but it's definitely not what it used to be.

Is De LaSalle still any good?