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OT Josh Fryar (Official Thread)

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Bumping this thread for my man here. Played an amazing game against ND and the personal foul he got was BS and I'll take it every day, all day. That's the nastiness I want, nothing dirty at all but he was out to just impose his will. I want all of our OL to take note of that and for Frye to say that penalty was bullshit, and everyone else please get after it like that.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Bumping this thread for my man here. Played an amazing game against ND and the personal foul he got was BS and I'll take it every day, all day. That's the nastiness I want, nothing dirty at all but he was out to just impose his will. I want all of our OL to take note of that and for Frye to say that penalty was bullshit, and everyone else please get after it like that.
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3rd & 9 at ND 39​

(3:28 - 3rd) MCCORD, Kyle pass to the right complete for 11 yards to EGBUKA, Emeka caught at the UND28 and advanced to the UND28 (LEWIS, Clarence;HARPER, Thomas). PENALTY OSU Unnecessary Roughness on FRYAR, Josh enforced 15 yards from the UND39 to the OSU46 [NHSG]. NO PLAY (replay the down).

Fans Are Furious With The Notre Dame vs. Ohio State Referees​

While Ohio State is leading Notre Dame, 10-7, they missed a golden opportunity for more on the most-recent driver. However, it ended thanks to a devastating 15-yard personal misconduct penalty by right tackle Josh Fryar.

Fryar was called for an unnecessary roughness penalty when he dove into a defensive lineman on the ground.

But should it have been a penalty?

Many fans are not happy.

"Finishing a block is now a penalty. Huge call by the refs. Basically took points off the board for OSU," one fan wrote.

Just sayin': I don't think the call "was total BS"; I can see how diving on a defensive lineman laying on the ground after the pass was already thrown (and he wasn't even trying to get up) could be called for unnecessary roughness. The penalty was definitely a "drive killer' and could of cost Ohio State the game. It went from 1st and 10 at the ND 39 to 3rd and 24 a the OSU 46. Ohio State had to punt on 4th down. Anyway....

1) Yeah, we want offensive linemen with a "mean streak": however, they have to use some good judgement as when to not engage in what would be considered a late/unnecessary hit.
2) Overall I thought that the refereeing was pretty good in this game. Most of the important calls that they initially got wrong they reversed on instant play, etc. This was especially true when they reversed Sam Hartman's run on a 4th down that was initially spotted for a 1st down.
 
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3rd & 9 at ND 39​

(3:28 - 3rd) MCCORD, Kyle pass to the right complete for 11 yards to EGBUKA, Emeka caught at the UND28 and advanced to the UND28 (LEWIS, Clarence;HARPER, Thomas). PENALTY OSU Unnecessary Roughness on FRYAR, Josh enforced 15 yards from the UND39 to the OSU46 [NHSG]. NO PLAY (replay the down).

Fans Are Furious With The Notre Dame vs. Ohio State Referees​

While Ohio State is leading Notre Dame, 10-7, they missed a golden opportunity for more on the most-recent driver. However, it ended thanks to a devastating 15-yard personal misconduct penalty by right tackle Josh Fryar.

Fryar was called for an unnecessary roughness penalty when he dove into a defensive lineman on the ground.

But should it have been a penalty?

Many fans are not happy.

"Finishing a block is now a penalty. Huge call by the refs. Basically took points off the board for OSU," one fan wrote.

Just sayin': I don't think the call "was total BS"; I can see how diving on a defensive lineman laying on the ground after the pass was already thrown (and he wasn't even trying to get up) could be called for unnecessary roughness. The penalty was definitely a "drive killer' and could of cost Ohio State the game. It went from 1st and 10 at the ND 39 to 3rd and 24 a the OSU 46. Ohio State had to punt on 4th down. Anyway....

1) Yeah, we want offensive linemen with a "mean streak": however, they have to use some good judgement as when to not engage in what would be considered a late/unnecessary hit.
2) Overall I thought that the refereeing was pretty good in this game. Most of the important calls that they initially got wrong they reversed on instant play, etc. This was especially true when they reversed Sam Hartman's run on a 4th down that was initially spotted for a 1st down.
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I agree on the overall assessment that the officiating as a whole was pretty good. But that call on Fryar pisses me off because the defender he buried was getting up to make another run at McCord...in real time, Josh just did his job. He doesn't know the ball was released 0.5 seconds before the second pancake.

Point is that even if it's a bad call, I would encourage all of our OL to do exactly what Mr. Fryar did there because you finish a defender until the whistle blows. Obviously don't be cheap about it, but you have to be aggressive there.
 
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I don’t think it was an egregiously bad call. I see guys get called for diving on a player they have knocked to the ground a lot.

Like most things with refs, it’s the inconsistency that drives us crazy.
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I’m with you. Being honest I think the act was dumber than the oenalty. I see both sides though, fuck his ass up is a good philosophy for the OL.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I don’t think it was an egregiously bad call. I see guys get called for diving on a player they have knocked to the ground a lot.

Like most things with refs, it’s the inconsistency that drives us crazy.
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Same here. If it would have been more of a flop onto the guy, I don’t think they’d have called anything, but it was an attacking move on a guy already on the ground.

Costly as hell at the time.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I don’t think it was an egregiously bad call. I see guys get called for diving on a player they have knocked to the ground a lot.

Like most things with refs, it’s the inconsistency that drives us crazy.
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It's not like missing the PI call on Harrison or the holding call on Chip bad, but it was close enough to the throw that I say it's not a good call. And if you get your ass beat like that, too bad imo. I just feel like physicality in football is being taking away slice by slice.

But yeah, that penalty hurt bad and could have cost us.
 
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NBC spent 5 minutes talking about a hand while MHJ's foot obviously came down.
Replay immediately looked at it, and... did exactly what NBC was talking about.
After halftime, they realized people were onto the shenanigans and claimed he was bobbling the ball (riiighhhtt... sure....)
Later, Stover catches a deflection with a knee on the ground ... but actually did bobble the ball while his knee came up.
That was called down, as he was on his way into the endzone. Again, replay looked at it and decided exactly what NBC said, ignoring a real bobble after stealing MHJ' catch.

This played out again with Chip's TD, and the NBC booth lobbying for 1 second on the clock.

Very curious. Was there an actual review booth, or just NBC?
 
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NBC spent 5 minutes talking about a hand while MHJ's foot obviously came down.
Replay immediately looked at it, and... did exactly what NBC was talking about.
After halftime, they realized people were onto the shenanigans and claimed he was bobbling the ball (riiighhhtt... sure....)
Later, Stover catches a deflection with a knee on the ground ... but actually did bobble the ball while his knee came up.
That was called down, as he was on his way into the endzone. Again, replay looked at it and decided exactly what NBC said, ignoring a real bobble after stealing MHJ' catch.

This played out again with Chip's TD, and the NBC booth lobbying for 1 second on the clock.

Very curious. Was there an actual review booth, or just NBC?
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Yup I was freaking screaming in the game thread.

On Fryar, I think where he got it wrong was losing contact and creating that much space between him and his guy. If he stays closer or even in contact, he gets to bury them all day. He needs to watch a 2 hour video of Orlando Pace to see how to do it right and take it to heart. They all do really.
 
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OHIO STATE WILL PERUSE ITS OPTIONS FOR WHERE TO PLAY SONNY STYLES, JOSH FRYAR THIS SPRING​

A key part of that evaluation is exploring any potential position changes that could make sense. Two are top of mind for Ohio State: Sonny Styles and Josh Fryar.
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Flexibility is also something that Day feels Fryar possesses.

As Ohio State searches for its best lineup on the right side of the offensive line, Day left the possibility on the table that Fryar could move inside from tackle to guard to replace a graduated Matt Jones.

“Josh has a little bit of swing capability there, so he’s gonna be on the right side right now,” Day said. “We’re gonna take a look to see what the right combination will be on the right side now that we’ve lost Matt. He’s gonna play tackle, he’s gonna play a little bit of guard and we’ll kind of see how that shakes out as the spring goes on.”

“HE’S GONNA PLAY TACKLE, HE’S GONNA PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF GUARD AND WE’LL KIND OF SEE HOW THAT SHAKES OUT AS THE SPRING GOES ON.”– RYAN DAY ON THE POSSIBILITY OF JOSH FRYAR MOVING TO GUARD
 
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Whether At Tackle or Guard, Josh Fryar Shooting For Higher Standard in Second Year Starting

After his first season as a starter didn't live up to his standard, Josh Fryar is trying to think less and compete more in 2024.
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WHETHER AT TACKLE OR GUARD, JOSH FRYAR SHOOTING FOR HIGHER STANDARD IN SECOND YEAR STARTING​

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As of now, Josh Fryar is set to start again for Ohio State in 2024.

That much is clear. There’s been no indication of his removal from the starting lineup and – while he had his rough moments in 2023 – there’s a reason Fryar landed first-team All-Big Ten honors from the media and third-team honors from the coaches.

Not as clear is whether he’ll be the team’s right tackle or right guard. It seems likely that it’ll be the former, where he started last year, started the spring game and took the majority of his reps this spring. But right guard is still a possibility.

“We know that Josh can play right tackle and he’s done that before,” Day said after the spring game. “Always want to find the best five. We feel like Josh is one of our best five, if we could figure that part of it out, that’d be great. He has played a little bit of guard but he’s also played tackle.”

Regardless, as he enters his second campaign as a starter, Fryar is trying to build off a year that wasn’t up to his “standard,” find a bigger competitive edge in practice and avoid overthinking down to down.

“I think experience is the biggest key,” Fryar said in April. “I think (left guard Donovan Jackson) can attest to it too, that first year (starting) is kind of rough and then that second year, you get a little bit more (comfortable). Now third year he’s going to have it down pat. But now I feel like I’m having it down pat (also).”
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