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OSU vs Oklahoma

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nycbucks07

nycbucks07

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Earlier in the year, I started a thread talking about a rematch of the 2002 championship with OSU playing Miami. This point was made on the basis of Miami's schedule, but after reviewing, I don't think this will happen.

It might be OSU vs. Oklahoma.

I'm sure that some of you have already had this thought and have been talking about it, but consider these facts.
Assuming Ohio State gets to the Fiesta Bowl:

Oklahoma has a relatively easy schedule, having tough games at Oregon and Texas A&M, and home against Texas. If they can take care of business, they have the potential to go undefeated. I think this will be a tough year for any college team to go undefeated, but OSU and Oklahoma have that chance. Oklahoma's success will depend on the health and consistency of back Adrian Peterson. Remember that he is a favorite for the Heisman, and I just can't see him getting injured or having a mediocre season like last year. If he steps up, they can beat those three teams (Oregon, A&M, and Texas) and then teams like Texas Tech and Colorado shouldn't be a problem at home. And with road games at Missouri and Baylor they should be fine.
Granted, every season has its set-backs, and they would still have to play in the Big 12 Championship game, but I see them as a possible opponent in a national championship that OSU will win.
Do you agree?
 
I disagree to the extent that Peterson will be able to carry the team. Yes, I think he's a great back. Yeah, he was injured... But, OU is still too one dimensional - that is - Peterson got all his yards when defenses had to account for 3 great college wide outs and a heisman winner (Albeit a "bogus" heisman, if you ask me) In any case, Peterson was unable to defeat Defenses geared to stop him... and for most of last year, OU had no other choice but to keep going to him. I'm not sure that has changed... although I admit, I haven't kept up to speed on what OU's doing.

Like I say, Peterson is a stud... he's gotta show me first though, before I'll just assume he's got what it takes to carry a team.
 
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AP wasn't healthy last year. OU should again have one of the nastiest defenses. The only team on their schedule that matches up talent wise is Texas. They should beat Texas too. I think thats why ESPN's Maisel had OU #2 in his spring rankings.
 
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nycbucks07 said:
Oklahoma has a relatively easy schedule, having tough games at Oregon and Texas A&M, and home against Texas.
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Minor point, but the game vs Texas is always in Dallas. Not Austin, TX nor Norman, OK.

If USC truly has the drop-off this season that some prognosticators believe will happen, then two likely conferences for a berth in the NC championship (assuming the Buckeyes take care of business and run the table) are the Big 12 and the ACC.

In your model, the Buckeyes beat Texas, that early loss puts the 'Horns at a severe disadvantage. Even if they were to beat all-comers they would have to hope for multiple 11-1 teams at season's end, and a favorable ranking of schedule strength, to shoe-horn out a league-leading LSU or (for instance) Florida State team. Conversely, if the 'Horns other loss is to the Sooners then they have the clear inside track.

Personally, outside of beating up on ND again, I think it may either be LSU or USC, the latter overcoming their changes in personnel, and gets a late season boost in the polls by knocking of ND when they visit La-La land.
 
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sandgk said:
Minor point, but the game vs Texas is always in Dallas. Not Austin, TX nor Norman, OK.

If USC truly has the drop-off this season that some prognosticators believe will happen, then two likely conferences for a berth in the NC championship (assuming the Buckeyes take care of business and run the table) are the Big 12 and the ACC.

In your model, the Buckeyes beat Texas, that early loss puts the 'Horns at a severe disadvantage. Even if they were to beat all-comers they would have to hope for multiple 11-1 teams at season's end, and a favorable ranking of schedule strength, to shoe-horn out a league-leading LSU or (for instance) Florida State team. Conversely, if the 'Horns other loss is to the Sooners then they have the clear inside track.

Personally, outside of beating up on ND again, I think it may either be LSU or USC, the latter overcoming their changes in personnel, and gets a late season boost in the polls by knocking of ND when they visit La-La land.
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Excuse me on the Red River mistake...

Do you really think LSU has the ability to make it that far? They play in the conference from hell, in that it is almost impossible to get out of their without one or two losses, and they have to play at Florida and Auburn, both teams that, in my opinion, have as good a chance as the Tigers.

Maybe a West Virginia could get the bid, simply because they're Big East, and they have a favorable schedule. Their toughies are at Pitt and Louisville.
OSU vs. West Virginia?
 
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No big deal on Red River .. it is a unique item in college football.

As for LSU & the SEC, yep I think they can make it that far. In that conference next year persuasive arguments can be made that their returnees are better set than any squad, with the strongest challenge coming from Florida. Georgia is in a rebuild, Alabama lost Croyle to graduation and the Vols, well they look ready for a psych ward these days.

But, note what I really think will happen is that USC will surprise folks with what they bring to the table. The common assessment is that the Trojans will drop back and suffer perhaps two losses. I am not sold on this happening.
 
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IT WILL BE West Virginia...Hopefully we are there too.

I agree with the above posters.

There is absolutely ZERO question in my mind that West Virginia is going to play in the NC game. Should they. Probably not. Why?

Here is the 2005 records of all the teams that WVU is playing:

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<ST1:pRutgers</ST1:p 7-5
USF 6-6
Pitt 5-6
UConn 5-6
<st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pCincinnati </st1:City>4-7
<st1:City w:st="on"><ST1:pSyracuse</ST1:p </st1:City>1-10
<ST1:p<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Mississippi</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">State </st1:PlaceType></ST1:p2-8
<st1:State w:st="on"><ST1:pMaryland</st1:State> 5-6
<ST1:pEastern Washington 7-5
Marshall 4-7
<ST1:pEast Carolina 5-6


The only 3 teams on there with a winning record are Louisville, Division TWO Eastern Washington, and Rutgers. In addition, most of these teams played in the Big Least.

If they go undefeated, they will be in the game because they may very well be the only undefeated team. Sick isn't it?

If they lose even one, they should not be allowed into a BCS bowl.

If we play them in the Fiesta, we win by 17-21 points.

Hope we can make it there.

:oh: :io:
 
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Don't worry about West Virginia... I have no faith in this "there schedule is so easy, they'll no doubt be undefeated" bullshit. Year in, year out, the "easy schedule" teams drop a game or two. Hell, Purdue was supposed to win the Big Ten last year owing to dodging OSU and Michigan.... Didn't happen.. far from it. I'd bet dollars to donuts WVU isn't still standing come 2007. (And this is said despite the fact that Rodriguez is, in my mind, an underrated coach)
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Don't worry about West Virginia... I have no faith in this "there schedule is so easy, they'll no doubt be undefeated" bullshit. Year in, year out, the "easy schedule" teams drop a game or two. Hell, Purdue was supposed to win the Big Ten last year owing to dodging OSU and Michigan.... Didn't happen.. far from it. I'd bet dollars to donuts WVU isn't still standing come 2007. (And this is said despite the fact that Rodriguez is, in my mind, an underrated coach)
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i hear where you are coming from, but I don't agree completely. Yes, there have been teams that have had "easy" schedules and dropped a game, and there have been teams with "tough" games that have cranked wins. Think about our own program:
In 1999, we went 11-1 with a Sugar Bowl win, but could have played Tennessee in the NC if it wasn't for a 28-24 loss to MSU at home. We had the Big Ten MVP that year and David Boston at wide out.
In 2002, we went 14-0 with a Fiesta Bowl double OT win for the championship. We also squeaked out wins against Michigan, Purdue, and Illinois. I am in NO way down playing the best OSU team in recent years, I'm just making a point: Two great teams, tremendous talent, but one TD away from either getting the NC birth, or losing it.

The fact that WVU has this relatively cupcake schedule, with a returning star QB and a star RB; you can't help but give them the great season they should have. Add the fact that they are in the Big East, you have to put them in the hunt. No other team (not even OSU) has these advantages, so it would be AMAZINGLY dissapointing if WVU doesn't play for the NC.
 
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