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OSU vs. Miami or USC vs. Texas? What say you?

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High Lonesome said:
they used the NC texas team from 69 to represent that era, up until last night considered the best texas team ever.

as for the question, there is absolutely zero way i could be fair. I am still on cloud 9 from watching what I consider to be the greatest college football game ever played.
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We all know how it feels, we've been up there.

I loved last night's game so much. It showed that Matt Leinhart and Reggie Bush are not Joe Montana and Jim Brown. It also showed what I think we Buckeye fans knew after the second game of the season... Vince Young's will to win is quite large.

I think the happiest moment I had was thinking about the piles of crow that ESPN would be eating for branding this USC team the best team of all time... nope. Thank you Texas.
 
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StadiumDorm said:
And is it wrong that I wanted USC to make a game-tying field goal at the end to send it into overtime?
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Not at all! I was cheering when VY ran in the go ahead TD, but I was screaming for Leinart to get rid of the ball on the last play, rather than letting the time run out. I just didn't want it to end.

For the fans of offense, this national championshio game probably won't be beat for awhile, but I'll take a 17-17 game that goes to overtime anyday.
 
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I believe 2002 NC was better than this one simply because it went to OT. That said, I thought this one was very close and very comparable. Fabulous game, a blast to watch. And I do agree that Young had the most dominating and outcome influencing game I have ever seen in a championship game.
 
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2002 (2003) Fiesta Bowl beats 2005 (2006) Rose Bowl to me. Mainly because it was Ohio State. In fact, this year's Fiesta Bowl beats this year's Rose Bowl to me, for that very reason.

However, if I try to remove the whole "It's Ohio State" thing from the games, I think that the Ohio State NC game beats this year's NC game. Ohio State was 13-point underdogs. How many people in the national media gave Ohio State no chance of winning? People thought that Ohio State didn't even deserve the "Big Ten Co-Champions" label, because, in their minds, Iowa would have wiped the field with the Buckeyes. Miami and their "Florida speed" were going to expose the Buckeyes as a terrible team with a worse beating than the year before's victory over Nebraska in the Rose Bowl. Sure, Ohio State had great defensive stats, but that was easily explained with "The Buckeyes never had to face that 'Florida speed' like they will against Miami."

This year, however, Texas averaged about 50 points a game, and had a very good defense. They were playing against the past 2 Heisman winners, but Texas had a worthy contender of their own in Vince Young. I don't think that Texas was nearly as much of an underdog as the Bucks were.

Texas won the game with 19 seconds left. USC tried a couple of plays to win, but it was a pretty good long shot. Ohio State-Miami went into two overtimes. There were something like 5 plays that could have been the last plays of the game (that's excluding all the plays at the end of regulation and in overtime that could have been turnovers, which also would have ended the game). There's the field goal by Miami to tie the game at 17 at the end of regulation. Then, of course, there's the fourth-down pass to Jenkins in overtime. The pass-interference call. Then, in the second overtime, Miami converted on a fourth-down play, and then, finally, Grant interrupted Miami's last attempt.

I think that the overall deal with Ohio State winning was a bigger game. But, of course, I may be influenced, still, by "it's Ohio State."
 
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A very tough call... but the last thing I wanted to see was USC kick a field goal to tie. That was one hell of an offense and I didn't want them to have another shot at winning the thing.

The game was certainly a classic. It had the added beauty of a #1 with a long winning streak... with most of the W's against a "down" Pac 10... and ridiculous media stories about how unbeatable USC was... but the same could be said about Miami... long streak against Big Least opponents... ridiculous media coverage.

On the Rose Bowl side, the game didn't come down to crucial missed calls by the refs. I still believe that OSU had the upset won outright before the OT and that if they had had review in 03 the game would have been over.

On the Fiesta Bowl side, that has to be the bigger upset of the two. No one, but no one, Kirk Herbstreit excepted, gave the Buckeyes a prayer.
 
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SATXBuck said:
The tOSU - Miami 2003 Fiesta Bowl. Because, no know gave us chance in this game. It's the greatest, because Skip Gayless is a Cryami fan.
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Well skippy might have picked miami because he is a front runner, but he is a sooner born and bred. Though he went to vandy he grew up in Mobilhoma. Regardless, he is a sad sad little man and i am glowing with joy knowing that this is killing him
 
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High Lonesome said:
they used the NC texas team from 69 to represent that era, up until last night considered the best texas team ever.

as for the question, there is absolutely zero way i could be fair. I am still on cloud 9 from watching what I consider to be the greatest college football game ever played.
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Yeah... well... I was wondering how great it would be, watching VY to be a dihard texas fan...

Think of it this way.

Imagine that game... only with USC making a FG to tie as time expired and then having to do the rollercoaster through two overtimes.

I would put it this way... if I was going to use hyperbole, I might say that Young's performance was the best championship game performance I've ever seen. (And, by I've seen, I mean just that... if anyone wants to say some guy from"X" in the 60's did "X" I'm not arguing... didn't see it... )
 
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AKAKBUCK said:
Yeah... well... I was wondering how great it would be, watching VY to be a dihard texas fan...

Think of it this way.

Imagine that game... only with USC making a FG to tie as time expired and then having to do the rollercoaster through two overtimes.

I would put it this way... if I was going to use hyperbole, I might say that Young's performance was the best championship game performance I've ever seen. (And, by I've seen, I mean just that... if anyone wants to say some guy from"X" in the 60's did "X" I'm not arguing... didn't see it... )
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i don't think my heart could have taken it.

if texas and usc went to overtime they would still be playing. Do you really think that either team was going to stop the other from the 25?
 
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High Lonesome said:
i don't think my heart could have taken it.

if texas and usc went to overtime they would still be playing. Do you really think that either team was going to stop the other from the 25?
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Those D's were so beat they would have had to start using Cheerleaders at DB and Flag Girls on the DL after 2 OTs.
 
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High Lonesome said:
which begs the question...Song Girls or Texas Pom (chaps girls)?

I don't think that the song girls have ever seen a spirit group as athletic as Texas Pom, but you know they say if you give the song girls a month to prepare...
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Theres really no loser if they go head to head, though, is there?
 
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v young was second in the heismen voting. texas was ranked #2 in the preseason poll. the only people who dubbed texas an "underdog" was the media. the computers said rather clearly that texas was the better team before the game. any educated fan knew this was going to be a very good game against very evenly matched teams. usc wasn't badmouthing texas leading up to the game. at no point, to my knowledge, did anyone state "texas doesn't belong on the same field as usc". at no point did anyone state "texas isn't even the best team in their own conference". when the announcers first broke out with their commontary on the teams they said something along the lines of "reggie bush vrs. a very fast and capable texas defense". in 02 the teams were announced by the commontators with the very simple, "it'll be fun to see how maimi uses all that speed against ohio states defense". at no point was a single positive thing said about ohio state until they started winning.

so without question the bigger underdog between the two goes to 02 tOSU vrs. miami.

better game? tough call. both had their share of great plays, players, media bias, and controversy. the media will declair this the best ever as they do every year. the 05 game was clearly one for the ages. but unlike the 02 game it didn't have the up and down one teams going to win it, no big punt return the other teams going to win it, no field goal tied game overtime, no their going to win it, no they are no flag, no there going to win. i wouldn't dare try to take anything away from the 05 game. i couldn't be happier for texas. but i think there was just a tad "more" in the 02 game primarily because of the double overtimes. but then i clearly have bias :biggrin: .
 
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