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OSU v. ND: Sugar Bowl

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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
Well this team is by far the best team in years! And as far as the bowl game! SO DO I.....
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I seem to respect ND more than other posters, but I would think that OSU would win by more than a touchdown against the Irish. Tressel is a great big-game coach, and we have great senior leadership all over the field on defense, ND hasnt faced anyone as good on defense as OSU is.
 
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scarletngrey77 said:
I seem to respect ND more than other posters, but I would think that OSU would win by more than a touchdown against the Irish. Tressel is a great big-game coach, and we have great senior leadership all over the field on defense, ND hasnt faced anyone as good on defense as OSU is.
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But Charlie Weis was the OCoordinator of a defensive team that won the superbowl!!!!
 
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I dont know about that as Tenn. has a fine defensive team. Having said that OSU would really make ND work for it's points as Tenn. did. I cant say who would win but it would be a match-up of one of the best offenses in college football vs one of the best defenses. ND'S defense has improved as has your offense. Both special team can score as well so it might be interesting....
 
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Let me say this right now: there is 0, and I mean ZERO chance of OSU playing ND in a BCS Bowl this year. Let me tell you why:

When the smoke clears on the BCS, there will be # 1 & # 2 in the Rose Bowl (obviously).

Then you have the conference commitments to each Bowl: SEC Champ goes to the Sugar, ACC Champ goes to the Orange.

Then you have the Big Ten Champ, Big East Champ, & two At-Larges (one of whom WILL be Notre Dame) for the 3 Bowls to select from.

The Fiesta Bowl will select first & last from those pools of teams.

So who is the most attractive team to the Fiesta, and who is the least attractive??

Obviously, the most attractive would be ND, and the least attractive would be the Big East Champ, most likely WVU. That's your Fiesta Bowl match-up right there.

Once ND gets the invite, there's no WAY OSU is falling back down to the Fiesta for the last pick. Absolutely no way. The Sugar or Orange will gobble OSU up, and there's no way either will select WVU or any of the Big East teams over the Buckeyes.

In my eyes, Notre Dame vs. West Virginia is pretty much set in stone.
 
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NDC: "Sloop- Sounds reasonable but man would that suck....."

Its the only way this thing can shake out. I'll put this out there for you guys & you tell me how you'd fill this out. Here are the available teams (assuming that everything plays out as expected):

At-Large ND, At-Large OSU, Big Ten Champ PSU, and Big East Champ WVU to fill out the remaining four spots. Now, the selection order goes like this:

1. Fiesta
2. Orange
3. Sugar
4. Fiesta

Answers please ...
 
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Fiesta - OSU
Orange - ND
Sugar - PSU
Fiesta - WVU

I agree with you Sloops that OSU v ND is almost an impossibility. I think that Fiesta would take OSU or ND first, and then Orange take whoever Fiesta doesn't.
 
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buckiprof: "I agree with you Sloops that OSU v ND is almost an impossibility. I think that Fiesta would take OSU or ND first, and then Orange take whoever Fiesta doesn't."

Agreed. As long as the Big East is affiliated with this system (& have no commitment to any of the Bowls, which they don't), they're always going to be the last pick.

The Fiesta Bowl would pick a 3-loss Oklahoma team over any team in the Big East if they could.
 
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NOTREDAMECHIEF said:
I dont know about that as Tenn. has a fine defensive team. Having said that OSU would really make ND work for it's points as Tenn. did. I cant say who would win but it would be a match-up of one of the best offenses in college football vs one of the best defenses. ND'S defense has improved as has your offense. Both special team can score as well so it might be interesting....
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One of the best offenses?
Notre Dame is #10 in the country in total offense.
The average total defense ranking they have faced is 63.75.
The two highest rated defensive teams ND has faced are #17 Tennessee and#25 Pitt . Also faced #41 USC, #51 scUM, #81 BYU, #91 MSU, #92 Washington and #112 Purdue.
tOSU total defense is ranked #7.
The average total offense ranking faced by tOSU is 28.
The highest rated offenses tOSU has faced are #4 Texas, #5 MSU, #6 Minnesota, #17 Miami (OH), #24 PSU, #33 Iowa. Also faced #63 Indiana and #72 Illinois.
Starting to see a trend?
Notre Dame has built up their offensive ranking by playing nobody with a defense.
Ohio State has built up their defensive ranking by playing some of the best offenses in the country.

FWIW tOSU is ranked #41 in total offense, Notre Dame is ranked #86 in total defense.

It would be a blowout. It's a good thing for ND they won't play tOSU in a bowl game.
 
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We've been to the Fiesta 2 of the last 3 years so there's no way they would take us before ND. They want some fresh meat if they can't get a good matchup. Since they are stuck with the Big East chump they will want the team that will bring the largest number of fans to Tempe. This year that team would be ND. Honestly, would any of you want to travel to Tempe to see OSU play WVU?
 
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FindlayBucks said:
One of the best offenses?
Notre Dame is #10 in the country in total offense.
The average total defense ranking they have faced is 63.75.
The two highest rated defensive teams ND has faced are #17 Tennessee and#25 Pitt . Also faced #41 USC, #51 scUM, #81 BYU, #91 MSU, #92 Washington and #112 Purdue.
tOSU total defense is ranked #7.
The average total offense ranking faced by tOSU is 28.
The highest rated offenses tOSU has faced are #4 Texas, #5 MSU, #6 Minnesota, #17 Miami (OH), #24 PSU, #33 Iowa. Also faced #63 Indiana and #72 Illinois.
Starting to see a trend?
Notre Dame has built up their offensive ranking by playing nobody with a defense.
Ohio State has built up their defensive ranking by playing some of the best offenses in the country.

FWIW tOSU is ranked #41 in total offense, Notre Dame is ranked #86 in total defense.

It would be a blowout. It's a good thing for ND they won't play tOSU in a bowl game.
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No way it would be a blow out. I think we win, but the final would be within 10 pts.
 
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