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OSU Men's Basketball Recruiting/Projections/General Discussions

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The Land 216 said:
I’m really hoping woods and norton but commit during their visits.. I like Joey Lane but if u can use his scholarship on a player who will play and help us win then u have to do it..
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Yes, but I would say the odds are they probably won't get 2 grad transfers. The team will probably look pretty well loaded after getting the first grad transfer, even though there is legitimately a chance of two grad transfers contributing meaningfully. Chris will have his work cut out for him to get 2.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Yes, but I would say the odds are they probably won't get 2 grad transfers. The team will probably look pretty well loaded after getting the first grad transfer, even though there is legitimately a chance of two grad transfers contributing meaningfully. Chris will have his work cut out for him to get 2.
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I think if woods commits this weekend when he visits, he will help the premiere scoring that we need but still does nothing for the PG situation that I know Chris wants to address. That’s why I think 2 is a possibility cause I believe a PG is coming to the team rather woods for example commits or doesn’t. So if Norton wants to come there will be a place for him no matter what
 
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The Land 216 said:
I think if woods commits this weekend when he visits, he will help the premiere scoring that we need but still does nothing for the PG situation that I know Chris wants to address. That’s why I think 2 is a possibility cause I believe a PG is coming to the team rather woods for example commits or doesn’t. So if Norton wants to come there will be a place for him no matter what
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I don't disagree with the idea that there are potentially two openings for different roles, if they add the right players. I just don't think it is likely that the second guy would see the type of opening that would seem conducive to picking OSU over other options where the competition is not as stiff.

I would love it if Woods joins, regardless of whether they add anyone else. He is exactly the kind of experienced shooter/scorer that can earn a big role on this team.
 
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you could be right about the "second guy." I dunno. I'm also not sure how the staff feels about it. it was clear from Holtmann's interview this week that he plans to add one and is willing to add a second if he can get one that he wants. I just have no idea what level that second guy has to be at for Holtmann to be willing to try to then balance a crowded roster with a lot of young players. If he can get Keyshawn Woods, does he continue to pursue Nick Norton, even though adding two graduate transfer guards would definitely take away some developmental PT from guys like Muhammad and Washington? In the same interview Holtmann talked about them playing more 3-guard line-ups this coming season, which would imply that he has great confidence he is getting at least one grad transfer guard (and I think that guard is Keyshawn Woods). But if you run with more 3-guard line-ups, and I think Holtmann would probably be loosely including Jallow and Ahrens in that "guard" grouping, that then gives you less PT for your forwards, Andre, Young, and Ledee.

I have a feeling we will see at least one transfer after this coming season, from whoever isn't seeing for themselves that big enough role going forward with the team. I just hope it's not one of the more promising underclassmen.
 
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from my perspective, I definitely see the openings for both Woods and Norton. Woods is that proven wing scorer this roster didn't have and while he might not have the volume numbers of a Cremo or Mooney, on his career he has similar efficiency to Cremo and is proven in one of the best conferences in the country, which is a definite advantage over Cremo and Mooney and a lot of your typical grad transfers, for that matter. For two seasons he has experienced that ACC conference grind, playing a major role for his team and done pretty well in it. They say beware the best players on bad teams and Wake was horrible last season but Woods' best season was actually his first year at Wake Forest where he put up great numbers for a guard across the board and Wake Forest made the Dance. He had some injury issues last season but still was a double digit scorer for them. He's never been fleet of foot, was a minus defender two of his seasons (dead even on D that sophomore season, so again his best) and while he's a high level shooter some of his other skills are a bit raw, but if he's healthy now then I think he could be a great guy to the be that third guard in a 3-guard line-up. He could almost be like a hybrid for us of Kam and Tate, with some of the strengths and some of the weaknesses of both.
 
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if Woods is more of that third guard, there is plenty of opportunity for Norton to be the back-up and alternative PG. I don't know if that will be appealing enough to Norton, and I don't know if Holtmann would rather just try to run with Washington and Muhammad more.
 
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nomatta said:
If he can get Keyshawn Woods, does he continue to pursue Nick Norton, even though adding two graduate transfer guards would definitely take away some developmental PT from guys like Muhammad and Washington?
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I would think that he would continue to pursue Norton just because it would add more depth to the guard position and Norton is more of a PG than any of the other guys including the incoming freshman.
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But if you run with more 3-guard line-ups, and I think Holtmann would probably be loosely including Jallow and Ahrens in that "guard" grouping, that then gives you less PT for your forwards, Andre, Young, and Ledee.
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I see Musa and Ahrens being sort of swing players and playing both the 3/4 positions. I do not see them locked into playing your typical guard position so that would free up some time for Muhammed and Washington. I would think that Holtmann would be very aware of the minutes that the incoming freshman would need to play in order to keep them happy while still giving them enough time to develop. You also have to worry about injuries because you never know when one of them is going to pop up with any given player. We do need bodies if nothing else.
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I have a feeling we will see at least one transfer after this coming season, from whoever isn't seeing for themselves that big enough role going forward with the team. I just hope it's not one of the more promising underclassmen.
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I know everyone worries someone transferring out of the program. My only concern would be one of the guards (Muhammed or Washington) and with Jackson and any grad transfer leaving that sort of eliminates my concerns about transfers. I would think that LeDee gets ample playing time next season to keep him happy. He probably was split time with Young and Andre Wesson, maybe Jallow, but I think he will see enough playing time to keep him happy.
 
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OSU canceling Norton's visit (and he then immediately committing to Drake) right after Woods' visit means I think they are feeling real good about Woods and apparently have some hope for grad transfer PG Justin Coleman. Coleman hasn't even announced a visit to OSU yet so I am wondering if he might have told the staff privately that he plans on visiting soon, otherwise it seems a bit of a risk to cancel on a PG like Norton that you likely could have gotten when you have no certain back-up PGs on the roster. If we do strike out on Coleman, though, I look forward to seeing what Washington can do with some spot minutes at lead guard.

Woods is the bigger issue to me, so if this is a good sign about Woods, I'm happy. As long as CJ stays healthy I think we can figure the PG situation out. Wasn't loving the prospect of needing one of our sophomores to make a massive jump in scoring or in one of our freshman to be instant impact there, so getting an ACC-level proven scorer on the wing would be big.
 
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