Oregon Ducks (aka U of Nike)

[CincyInterloper]

I would say that "elite" is much more of a thing specific to a season. For example, Ohio State has been elite for a couple of years, but not every year. Indiana has probably never ever been elite, but they may be elite this year.
Using my interpretation, I would say that Oregon has been elite at times in the past. But they aren't elite very often.

I agree with this. I think we may be conflating being a blue-blood with being elite. If you analogize being elite with being rich, we basically have new-money fans annoying the old-money fans by boasting how rich they think they are, and the old-money fans are like "if you still have money in 20 years, then we can talk. Until then, go get your shine-box."

 

[gmen6981]

Technically they're 1-2 in the CFP. Win against Florida State, two losses to Ohio State lol.

Pre CFP, but they also lost to Auburn in the 2011 BCS Championship game.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I would say that "elite" is much more of a thing specific to a season. For example, Ohio State has been elite for a couple of years, but not every year. Indiana has probably never ever been elite, but they may be elite this year.
Using my interpretation, I would say that Oregon has been elite at times in the past. But they aren't elite very often.

I would say thats ridiculous. You certainly can be elite each season. You can also be elite for a length of time. Regardless, this is semantics.

Oregon has had very good years. Still have less titles than Minnesota. Not elite. Not a blue blood. New money up jumped MAC team beating their chests about having a .500+ winning percentage. Pipe down. You're Cincinnati with a billionaire football fan.

54k seat stadium head ass. Lmao

 

[Jaxbuck]

Pre CFP, but they also lost to Auburn in the 2011 BCS Championship game.

Since we are parsing words here; it should be noted for the record that they didn’t just lose twice to OSU.

They’ve gotten stomped like a narc at a biker rally twice by OSU.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

Define elite. Is it simply only national championship winners? Because they've had multiple teams finish #2 in the country across multiple coaches

John Cooper finished #2 twice in three years. Is he elite?

 

[Jaxbuck]

John Cooper finished #2 twice in three years. Is he elite?

 

[OregonBuckeye]

John Cooper finished #2 twice in three years. Is he elite?

What a preposterous strawman argument. The 96 and 98 teams were elite, even if underachieving relative to their ceiling. Cooper was not elite because he underachieved with that talent. If 96 and 98 Ohio State were not elite teams, then your criteria for elite teams is simply NC winners and there is only 1 elite team every year. To me, most years a top 5 team is an elite team and certainly top 2-3

Also, you don't have to be an elite program or blueblood to have elite teams. 2019 LSU was elite, despite the surrounding years of relative mediocrity

 

[buckeyeintn]

What a preposterous strawman argument. The 96 and 98 teams were elite, even if underachieving relative to their ceiling. Cooper was not elite because he underachieved with that talent. If 96 and 98 Ohio State were not elite teams, then your criteria for elite teams is simply NC winners and there is only 1 elite team every year. To me, most years a top 5 team is an elite team and certainly top 2-3

Also, you don't have to be an elite program or blueblood to have elite teams. 2019 LSU was elite, despite the surrounding years of relative mediocrity

So you are saying Oregon has had maybe a handful of elite teams over the course of their football existence, not that they are an elite program?
That is a totally different argument and you may have a valid point.