Game Thread Oregon at tOSU, Sat. Nov. 7th, 3:30 pm ET, CBS

[lvbuckeye]

The trenches are the realm of men.

It sure would be nice if we had some men playing on the line. Offense or Defense.

 

[RB07OSU]

I volunteered at a German festival with the wife because I had no confidence in this game tbh. Watching the highlights, I didn’t miss much. The season is pretty much over as far as an NC. And the only big game left is The Game, which now is a toss up. What a cluster F of a season. I feel most sorry for JJ. His last year is filled with breaking records but winning nothing. He won’t win a single award, but at least he’ll be a top draft pick

I was fairly late to it myself, mine was worse because it was a farmer's market...at least a German festival is bad ass, I just nodded my head at flowers and other shit that I don't care about was pointed at. But I wasn't really in a hurry to watch it either knowing this would likely be the result after watching the USC game. I just told myself how bad this season has gotten - I was ok being at a farmer's market knowing the game was going to probably end up something like it did. That is how clocked out I am, apparently the team is too.

But I echo the JJ Smith sentiment...probably best for him to sit out the rest of the season at this point. He got the records he wanted and with no Heisman or NC in the picture, no sense getting hurt over nothing. The obvious exception being The Game, no way he would sit that one out. All focus just needs to be on winning The Game now. Season is shot to shit and other than winning that one, we just need to turn the rest of the season into an audition for next season...not just for starting positions, but for those who need to find other "opportunities" that don't involve Columbus or the pros.

But here is the problem - no major change will happen. Coaches are just trying what they can to keep their jobs, which they won't jeopardize by doing what they should in taking the lumps and figuring out your roster, and getting young guys experience. I would rather give Day full immunity for another year if he just goes that route, blows things up to see what we have and we understand things may get worse before they get better next season.

Who cares about the final record this year other than beating ttun - just make this a full blown audition, especially whatever Potato Bowl or Pop Tart Bowl we get in...treat it like the glorified scrimmage it is. Use the opportunity to prepare for next year and get young guys experience. Pointing to the QB room, TSC better play unless we are just trying to drive him out of the program on purpose...I get maybe not doing that yet if we thought Fahey was the safest option to maybe eek out wins until Saying might be able to come back by some miracle. That's not even a factor now.

Not the problem. It's scheme right now. It's not his fault his guys are dropping back.

But they need to bring in a replacement quickly.

Absolutely agreed. He gets to tell his unit they are getting neutered, and for whatever 3 guys that get out there to play patty cake with the entire OL while we drop 8. I can pretty confidently say LJ Sr is not the problem.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

Absolutely agreed. He gets to tell his unit they are getting neutered, and for whatever 3 guys that get out there to play patty cake with the entire OL while we drop 8. I can pretty confidently say LJ Sr is not the problem.

I don’t see a good answer for defensive scheme right now, or the rest of the year. They can’t get a push with 3-4, but when they blitz it doesn’t get there and just opens up holes in the backend for 15+ yard reception. Or it’s so obvious when they have to rush that screens gash them. The only thing that could change that would be the light coming on for Grady or KJjr, and I’m not counting on that.

Someone mentioned get a successor and putting LJ as a sr assistant or something son he’s still here but wouldn’t have to do as much. Not sure if he’d go for that.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

I don’t see a good answer for defensive scheme right now, or the rest of the year. They can’t get a push with 3-4, but when they blitz it doesn’t get there and just opens up holes in the backend for 15+ yard reception. Or it’s so obvious when they have to rush that screens gash them. The only thing that could change that would be the light coming on for Grady or KJjr, and I’m not counting on that.

Someone mentioned get a successor and putting LJ as a sr assistant or something son he’s still here but wouldn’t have to do as much. Not sure if he’d go for that.

Other teams can do it and I’d like to think we can too. The issue seems to be teams know when he’s going to blitz and when he’s going to drop. They take advantage of the blitz every single time as you point out.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

Feels like this is the beginning of the end to OSU dominance. Portal and NIL killed the blue bloods advantage.

It’s for sure made it more difficult to replace kids.

The times are gone where you lose Braxton and JT but have Cardale as a third.

 

[james cammelleri]

Watch the scene in the movie Margin Call. where Irons is talking about the music ending , perfect example of OSU now.

 

[james cammelleri]

You rolled with kids that are to small for the position, unless they are Kyler Murry you are doomed.

 

[BuckeyesGunn]

"Trying to move the ball down the field with a freshman QB...We do have a young QB here..."

Kind of feels like Fahey was thrown under the bus. What happened to the 'BCD' standard?

To be fair he did say they put him in some tough spots, BUT I believe that statement should be placed much later than the above, i.e. concerning in game play, so in context this statement applies after the fact of being behind.

I am very interested to see how or if this team responds positively to this nosedive of former proficiency.

 

[Onebuckfan]

I’m rewatching the game to see if Connor Stallion was on the sideline for the Ducks.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

"Trying to move the ball down the field with a freshman QB...We do have a young QB here..."

Kind of feels like Fahey was thrown under the bus. What happened to the 'BCD' standard?

To be fair he did say they put him in some tough spots, BUT I believe that statement should be placed much later than the above, i.e. concerning in game play, so in context this statement applies after the fact of being behind.

I am very interested to see how or if this team responds positively to this nosedive of former proficiency.

He said that last week too so IMO there’s really no excuses.

We also found out why you punt the ball on 4th down instead of going for it. I thought it was a good call but looking back on it that just made the game unreachable with the short field scores.

The score was not that close. But I can’t believe for nearly 2 quarters we were winning that game.

 

[Tanner]

I don't what's more impressive, blowing the 20 point 4th quarter lead against Texas, or yesterday, being up 14-3 with 3 minutes to go in the half and the opponent has 4th down at their own 30, and you are somehow losing going into the half.

 

[BuckeyeBiz]

Went to game and need a cathartic post to let it out!

1) Tailgate scene and fan support was great. The fan base was rallied behind this program and it was loud!
2) Great start but we knew Oregon had serious talent and was not rolling over. Seriously good on them to not quit and overcome the timezone excuses.
3) The 2nd dropped pick was a killer - you have to make those plays and we made none of them.
4) We all knew Lanning was going to dial up a fake. We saw it coming from the C deck and our extra special special teams was unprepared. Oregon seized all momentum right there and we knew it.
5) Why they ignored JJ makes no sense. Locked in on McCuin.
6) Seriously what did TSC do to get no shot yesterday. This team needed a spark and Day coached like the 2024 Michigan game. What did he have to lose…literally all of the season goals but he refused.
7) Situational coaching decisions were bad. Day going for it on the opposite 40 in the 3rd with the way our offense was not executing and our defense did not need more pressure. Bad call that he got from his analytics box. Read the situation bud.
8) We did not win the middle 8! Lanning had to be loving clowning Ryan Day on his middle 8 shtick.
9) The OSU game day experience is getting lame. The pump up music and gimmicks when you are getting beat by 20. Read the room
10) The Stadium experience is really bad and that really stands out when you get boat raced at home. The bathrooms are designed for half the occupancy, they have very few TVs in the interior. You wait in line 25 minutes and can’t see the game on TVs and the WiFi signal is so weak you can’t even get the score to refresh. Top it off with paying so much for tickets, $15 beers and getting asked for NIL donations and it’s just a sour experience all around. I spoke with several Oregan fans who said they were surprised how bad things were setup at a place like OSU with the budget and resources.
11) Tough to take that loss at home. I get we lost Sayin but our coaches have failed miserably in handling the situation, adjusting and preparing the team with a winning game plan.

Putting all of that together, walking out of that stadium taking the loss in, I don’t see Day succeeding in this new era. The ability to assemble a mass talent advantage is just gone and the B1G has so much more depth. Day is not a big enough edge to rise above that. I still think we can win 9-10 games most seasons and we will get the AFC North equivalent of wild card slots. But we still have to play teams with the same talent level and Day has proven that he can’t win those games. It is a new format that is much more like NFL but uneven rules and roster budgets. Don’t see Day as an edge with what worked in the former format.

Lastly, regardless of how this season is now a lost one, we’re still not scUM and the crap, cheating and mediocre program they are. This season now comes down to beating them and getting to work on a 27 roster and coaching staff. Maybe Day gets lucky and we win out on the portal sweepstakes by not being busy in Dec and Jan .

 

[Gizmo]

Other teams can do it and I’d like to think we can too. The issue seems to be teams know when he’s going to blitz and when he’s going to drop. They take advantage of the blitz every single time as you point out.

They know when he's going to blitz because it only happens on 3rd and long. There's no surprise in the defense at all. No 1st down blitz package to try and get them off schedule. No stunting (that I know of). No disguising zone as man, and vice versa. It's all straight up defense, hoping we just outskill them. It worked with the studs we had the past couple years. It doesn't work with this defense.

 

[cincibuck]

1. If Fahey is the answer, just how bad in is TSC?

2. If you want o run the ball whenever you want, you need to recruit some big dozers before packeing th receiver room.
3. If you want to protect your pro passed QB, joiu need to recruit some big ass doxers before packing the QB room.
4.If you to keep the other guys mediocre QB from nickle and diming you to death, you need to recruit some defensive ends with near criminal mentality.

 

[1926Buckeyes]

Other teams can do it and I’d like to think we can too. The issue seems to be teams know when he’s going to blitz and when he’s going to drop. They take advantage of the blitz every single time as you point out.

That’s definitely part of it.