LoKyBuckeye
I give up. This board is too hard to understand.
Keici Striger, wife of Kory Stringer will be on Dateline right about now 7pm EST to talk about Kory's death.
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tibor75
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the anniversary of Korey Stringer's passing this past week. One of the saddest days in NFL history and certainly in Buckeye football history as well. Stringer was one of the few OSU players that I would see often on campus...he'd always be eating by himself on weekends at Baker Commons during my freshman year. RIP..
the anniversary of Korey Stringer's passing this past week. One of the saddest days in NFL history and certainly in Buckeye football history as well. Stringer was one of the few OSU players that I would see often on campus...he'd always be eating by himself on weekends at Baker Commons during my freshman year. RIP..
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JohnnyCockfight
Beer is God's proof that he loves us.
Tune in if you see this message in time.
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JohnnyCockfight
Beer is God's proof that he loves us.
I don't know if this is news to anyone or if anyone cares, but here are some snippets that I took out of the special:
**Stringer's body temp was 108.8 degrees when the paramedics arrived several minutes after he was down for the count--so you can only imagine how hot his body got at its peak when he was running full speed under the sun before passing out
**The Viking's physician said Korey worked himself to death
**The Viking's physician gave her some kind of undisclosed settlement, even though and after she lost the case
**The Viking's coach said Korey was always overweight and a very hard worker, which turned out to be a bad combination
**Mrs. Stringer's lawsuit against the Vikings was thrown out, and on top of that she got stuck footing almost $50,000 in legal fees for the Vikings
**Mrs. Stringer has now brought a class action on behalf of all NFL Players against the NFL
I think it goes without saying that what happened was really sad and unfortunate. But Mrs. Stringer probably needs to come to grips with the fact that sometimes there is no one to blame for bad things that happen. In over 80 years of pro football, Korey is the only pro football player to die of heat stroke. I don't think that suing the Vikings, and now the entire League, is the solution to what happened.
But then again, if increases the safety standards around the league and prevents this from doing similar damage to players in the future, then Mrs. Stringer's actions will have been worth it.
**Stringer's body temp was 108.8 degrees when the paramedics arrived several minutes after he was down for the count--so you can only imagine how hot his body got at its peak when he was running full speed under the sun before passing out
**The Viking's physician said Korey worked himself to death
**The Viking's physician gave her some kind of undisclosed settlement, even though and after she lost the case
**The Viking's coach said Korey was always overweight and a very hard worker, which turned out to be a bad combination
**Mrs. Stringer's lawsuit against the Vikings was thrown out, and on top of that she got stuck footing almost $50,000 in legal fees for the Vikings
**Mrs. Stringer has now brought a class action on behalf of all NFL Players against the NFL
I think it goes without saying that what happened was really sad and unfortunate. But Mrs. Stringer probably needs to come to grips with the fact that sometimes there is no one to blame for bad things that happen. In over 80 years of pro football, Korey is the only pro football player to die of heat stroke. I don't think that suing the Vikings, and now the entire League, is the solution to what happened.
But then again, if increases the safety standards around the league and prevents this from doing similar damage to players in the future, then Mrs. Stringer's actions will have been worth it.
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Yes and no. I agree that its rare, and sometimes bad things happen to good people. However, I don't think that Korey (or any football player) is in a position to say 'no' to their head coach. If the head coach tells the players to run, they run, no ifs, ands, or buts about it - even if its 110 degrees outside and the players are in full pads. If a player refuses, he may be unemployed, end of story.JohnnyCockfight said:
An NFL coach weilds marine drill instructor-like authority. Just ask Michael Strahan how far saying 'no' to Tom Coughlin will get him.
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JohnnyCockfight
Beer is God's proof that he loves us.
I think that's a valid point, and I don't know the full story behind what happened--I don't know if anyone does.
On this CNBC program, the Coach made it sound as though Korey had over-worked himself at the end of the off-season, right before or maybe even concurrent with the start of training camp.
The Coach may also have been trying to cover his own ass.
Edit: to specify, the Coach made it sound like Korey had personally put himself through a rigorous training in the off-season in attempt to get his weight down.
On this CNBC program, the Coach made it sound as though Korey had over-worked himself at the end of the off-season, right before or maybe even concurrent with the start of training camp.
The Coach may also have been trying to cover his own ass.
Edit: to specify, the Coach made it sound like Korey had personally put himself through a rigorous training in the off-season in attempt to get his weight down.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
its said that the US navies sub reqs are written in blood because all changes were brought about by someones death. not because the commanding officers sought to get their men killed. not because they were poorley trained or lacking in intelligence or ability. but because sometimes in life being ignorant of the dangers doesn't mean they will be any less leathal.
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The day before Korey died, he had thrown up on the field after pushing himself so hard. The day he died, Mike Tice called him out as a sandbagger, showing Korey and all the other offensive linemen a newspaper picture of Korey throwing up. I guess Tice wanted to motivate him.
He did, Korey said he wasn't going to give up that day no matter what.
Korey was his own man, but it's on the coaches and trainers to watch these guys. You don't just accidentally get up to almost 109 degrees internally. The medical staff on field failed him, and Tice bears responsibility (IMO) for humiliating Korey in front of his linemates.
To this day, I can't look at Tice without thinking about how (I feel) he contributed directly to Korey's death. Tice is one of those coaches who wants to be seen as hard in an old-school sort of way. "Back when I was playing, we didn't get water, we ran uphill both ways! We played both sides of the line, while people were shooting at us! We didn't have pads, we used telephone books, and the guys who didn't have books had to use bark off a tree!" Etc. etc. What that dumbass doesn't understand is that with every year that goes by, pro athletes are becoming more finely tuned engines. Finely tuned engines require a lot of precise attention because the line between optimal performance and critical failure is razor thin. I do feel like the NFL and the Vikings circled the wagons and protected their own on this one, someone should have faced the appropriate consequences.
I think about this in military terms. If a Marine is killed from heat exhaustion, there would be major fallout all the way up the line. You'd see company commanders, battalion commanders, even camp commandants face severe consequences, because each failed those below them for allowing a scenario where something like this could happen.
Lol, I'll reel myself in here though. Years ago I started a thread on Bucknuts that suggested Tice was directly to blame for Korey's death, and that was a very unpopular comment at the time. I still feel it, but I appreciate that others don't. I don't claim Korey doesn't bear the bulk of the responsibility, he absolutely does, particularly if he was using a supplement that increased his risk of heat exhaustion or heat stroke, but I think sometimes people in his position take a leap of faith in the staff around them, and go full tilt, believing others will look out for him. I don't know who was looking out for him the day he died, but they failed (as did Korey who should have been looking out for himself as well) and Korey and his family paid.
He did, Korey said he wasn't going to give up that day no matter what.
Korey was his own man, but it's on the coaches and trainers to watch these guys. You don't just accidentally get up to almost 109 degrees internally. The medical staff on field failed him, and Tice bears responsibility (IMO) for humiliating Korey in front of his linemates.
To this day, I can't look at Tice without thinking about how (I feel) he contributed directly to Korey's death. Tice is one of those coaches who wants to be seen as hard in an old-school sort of way. "Back when I was playing, we didn't get water, we ran uphill both ways! We played both sides of the line, while people were shooting at us! We didn't have pads, we used telephone books, and the guys who didn't have books had to use bark off a tree!" Etc. etc. What that dumbass doesn't understand is that with every year that goes by, pro athletes are becoming more finely tuned engines. Finely tuned engines require a lot of precise attention because the line between optimal performance and critical failure is razor thin. I do feel like the NFL and the Vikings circled the wagons and protected their own on this one, someone should have faced the appropriate consequences.
I think about this in military terms. If a Marine is killed from heat exhaustion, there would be major fallout all the way up the line. You'd see company commanders, battalion commanders, even camp commandants face severe consequences, because each failed those below them for allowing a scenario where something like this could happen.
Lol, I'll reel myself in here though. Years ago I started a thread on Bucknuts that suggested Tice was directly to blame for Korey's death, and that was a very unpopular comment at the time. I still feel it, but I appreciate that others don't. I don't claim Korey doesn't bear the bulk of the responsibility, he absolutely does, particularly if he was using a supplement that increased his risk of heat exhaustion or heat stroke, but I think sometimes people in his position take a leap of faith in the staff around them, and go full tilt, believing others will look out for him. I don't know who was looking out for him the day he died, but they failed (as did Korey who should have been looking out for himself as well) and Korey and his family paid.
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UpNorthBuckeye
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One theory I've read about is that today's athletes are MORE susceptible to heat stroke because Americans spend so much time in air conditioning.
We have airconditioned homes, cars and stores, and then we go out in the heat and run. Our body's ability to combat it is underdeveloped.
I'm not a medico, just repeating what I read somewhere!
I also think tice is a jerk, not for Stringer's death, just on general principles.
GO BUCKS!
p.s. Great win over Texas Tech last night!
We have airconditioned homes, cars and stores, and then we go out in the heat and run. Our body's ability to combat it is underdeveloped.
I'm not a medico, just repeating what I read somewhere!
I also think tice is a jerk, not for Stringer's death, just on general principles.
GO BUCKS!
p.s. Great win over Texas Tech last night!
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