OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

[Tanner]

Fact is he put a loaded gun to the head of the community and pulled the trigger. That's a rather large whoopsie daisy.

Yeah it's not like he drank a little too much wine and a kid on a bike shot out in front of him and there was an accident. Driving 100 on a town street like that is ridiculous if you're sober, let alone drunk

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Not surprised. He was clearly an alcoholic and someone too self-entitled to seek help or admit that he needed to change. My only sympathy is to the deceased. Barton can suck cock in Lucasville for the next 25 years.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

And who the fuck needs a pickup truck that can go over a 100mph. I hate those fucking things, and the worst, most reckless and most aggressive drivers that I see around Chicago are driving one of those Cleetusmobiles about 90% of the time.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

And who the fuck needs a pickup truck that can go over a 100mph. I hate those fucking things, and the worst, most reckless and most aggressive drivers that I see around Chicago are driving one of those Cleetusmobiles about 90% of the time.

How else are you going to prove to people that you're still a big bad tough guy?

 

[CincyInterloper]

This was not a mistake. No defense. An example of narcissism and repeated bad choices. A complete ass for years who stole and sold from the football program and lied about his "insider" insights for years. Deep sympathy for the accident victim.

Agreed. He headed to the bar intending to get drunk. And knowing that he would be getting drunk, chose to drive. That's all the intent we need to hold him solely responsible for everything that happened next.

 

[Dee-Liem]

And who the fuck needs a pickup truck that can go over a 100mph. I hate those fucking things, and the worst, most reckless and most aggressive drivers that I see around Chicago are driving one of those Cleetusmobiles about 90% of the time.

If it helps, Kirk Barton will never drive any vehicle legally the rest of his life (save for a heck of a plea bargain).

 

[Jaxbuck]

Of course he is responsible for his actions. We all are.

Recognizing that someone is an addict and having empathy for the tragedy of seeing them destroy their own life doesn't mean you are advocating they are not responsible for what they do in the grips of that addiction. In no way are you minimizing the impact to the innocent victim. I personally don't see any incongruency in feeling sad for the victim, his family, Barton and his family.

If people think addicts are just bad or weak people then they really don't understand the issue. It's a disease and when it gets a hold of people it's tragic all the way around. Tragic to watch them so filled with self hate that they destroy their own life and then in cases like this where that destruction spills out and impacts innocent others.

 

[Thump]

And who the fuck needs a pickup truck that can go over a 100mph. I hate those fucking things, and the worst, most reckless and most aggressive drivers that I see around Chicago are driving one of those Cleetusmobiles about 90% of the time.

But they drink Malort!

 

[Thump]

How else are you going to prove to people that you're still a big bad tough guy?

Don’t forget “rolling coal” as well.

 

[Tanner]

Of course he is responsible for his actions. We all are.

Recognizing that someone is an addict and having empathy for the tragedy of seeing them destroy their own life doesn't mean you are advocating they are not responsible for what they do in the grips of that addiction. In no way are you minimizing the impact to the innocent victim. I personally don't see any incongruency in feeling sad for the victim, his family, Barton and his family.

If people think addicts are just bad or weak people then they really don't understand the issue. It's a disease and when it gets a hold of people it's tragic all the way around. Tragic to watch them so filled with self hate that they destroy their own life and then in cases like this where that destruction spills out and impacts innocent others.

Agree. Not to get too serious but I think people have forgotten grace. People make mistakes, sometimes horrible ones. I felt the same way reading an athletic article about Henry Ruggs apologizing to the family of the person he killed and every comment was rot in hell etc. I just don't believe in that kind of thinking

 

[Mike80]

How else are you going to prove to people that you're still a big bad tough guy?

2 Zyns at once?

 

[Thump]

Agree. Not to get too serious but I think people have forgotten grace. People make mistakes, sometimes horrible ones.

Fantastic point. You are 100% correct.

 

[BB73]

If it helps, Kirk Barton will never drive any vehicle legally the rest of his life (save for a heck of a plea bargain).

It doesn’t help that much. I knew a young man killed by an unlicensed driver.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

This is going to play out for a few years because our legal system is slow. But hopefully, he accepts his responsibility and serves a few (5-8 minimum) years.

He serves just 5-8 years? Fuck that shit. I could care less if he was a real solid player for us, he slaughtered an innocent driver because he was driving 100 miles an hour while shit-faced. He should serve at least 15-20 years...

 

[BB73]

Of course he is responsible for his actions. We all are.

Recognizing that someone is an addict and having empathy for the tragedy of seeing them destroy their own life doesn't mean you are advocating they are not responsible for what they do in the grips of that addiction. In no way are you minimizing the impact to the innocent victim. I personally don't see any incongruency in feeling sad for the victim, his family, Barton and his family.

If people think addicts are just bad or weak people then they really don't understand the issue. It's a disease and when it gets a hold of people it's tragic all the way around. Tragic to watch them so filled with self hate that they destroy their own life and then in cases like this where that destruction spills out and impacts innocent others.

Most addicts aren’t also extremely reckless idiots. One can be addicted and self-destructive without being very dangerous to the lives of others.