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Is Kirk Barton a Fake Buckeye?

  • YES

    Votes: 48 85.7%

  • NO

    Votes: 8 14.3%
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ScarletInMyVeins said:
I can't believe you're defending that piece of shit
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I’m not. He should do time and a lot of it.

Of course it’s most sad that someone died. That was someone’s son and probably someone’s husband or boyfriend. However I also think many forget that now Barton’s kids will grow up without a father and a family is broken up. Lots of victims everywhere.

Many of us have made most of their biggest errors when they’re drunk (I know basically ALL of my embarrassment and regretful moments are because of alcohol). Whether it’s cursing someone out here on BP after the Oregon loss, saying something you regret to a loved one, or worse driving drunk. I admit I’ve driven when I shouldn’t have before. So I can’t imagine the grief he’s going to feel when he sobers up and realizes he’s going to lose the best years of his life.

So yes the young man dying is the worst thing of this but Barton’s life is effectively over too. I don’t wish that on anyone.

I personally think this is sad all the way around. Barton made a mistake, a grave one, but this is different than doing something on purpose.

He’s going to rightfully pay the price for that but I hope Barton can get out of prison. Not for him but for his Kids. Kids without a father figure is about one of the more destructive things today in America.
 
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DaveyBoy said:
Wow. Just a spectrum of emotions…..sad, furious, scared.

I know Kirk a little and have had dinner with him through some mutual friends. When he wasn’t drinking he was smart and engaging. Unfortunately, it was not common for him to without a drink in hand. I would frequently tune into his YouTube cast. He was drunk on that at least twice per week. Fricking unbelievable and sad. Rest in peace, young Ethan Perry.
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That’s really sad and I remember a few of his drunk podcasts. There’s just not much good with alcohol. Frankly it’s amazing it’s legal when many other things aren’t. Alcohol has killed so many.

He’ll have no choice but to completely sober up now
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Stop it. He needs to go away for a while but it was obviously a mistake. Literally the biggest mistake someone can make that leads to taking a life.

Barton always needed to get sober that was always the thing with him. I’d imagine 10-15 years is likely in order which should sober him up.

I can’t imagine what any of these people involved are dealing with right now. Someone lost a loved one and the other family loses a husband and father for a very long time.

This isn’t a life in jail kind of mistake though. This was stupidity and it cost someone their life.
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Two lives ended when Barton decided to drive drunk.

Oh and Criminal negligence, which is what this is by Barton, is not a "mistake". This isn't his first rodeo being a drunk driver.
 
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This is going to play out for a few years because our legal system is slow. But hopefully, he accepts his responsibility and serves a few (5-8 minimum) years. Gets his shit together and rejoins society.

And honestly, if he wasn't a former player or had a podcast, would we mention him first over the victim?

Ethan Perry, RIP. And condolences to the family and friends.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
I’m not. He should do time and a lot of it.

Of course it’s most sad that someone died. That was someone’s son and probably someone’s husband or boyfriend. However I also think many forget that now Barton’s kids will grow up without a father and a family is broken up. Lots of victims everywhere.

Many of us have made most of their biggest errors when they’re drunk (I know basically ALL of my embarrassment and regretful moments are because of alcohol). Whether it’s cursing someone out here on BP after the Oregon loss, saying something you regret to a loved one, or worse driving drunk. I admit I’ve driven when I shouldn’t have before. So I can’t imagine the grief he’s going to feel when he sobers up and realizes he’s going to lose the best years of his life.

So yes the young man dying is the worst thing of this but Barton’s life is effectively over too. I don’t wish that on anyone.

I personally think this is sad all the way around. Barton made a mistake, a grave one, but this is different than doing something on purpose.

He’s going to rightfully pay the price for that but I hope Barton can get out of prison. Not for him but for his Kids. Kids without a father figure is about one of the more destructive things today in America.
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I dunno. Maybe the kids are better off growing up without this guy in their lives? Exactly what kind of example has he been setting for them? Maybe him not being around will help show them that there is a better way to be so that they don’t grow up thinking that his behavior is remotely normal. Some kids are better off without a dad around when their dad is a piece of shit.

And I vehemently disagree that he didn’t do something “on purpose”. Oh, “it’s not his fault, he was drunk” is an absolute cop out. Isn’t this the third time he’s been caught OVI? How many other times has he done this and not been caught. He’s had years and years to get his shit together and recognize he has a problem with booze and he hasn't done shit. How many OVI’s do you have to get before you make a change? Regardless, he wasn’t drunk when he made the decision to go to a bar and start drinking, he wasn’t drunk when he order his second drink or his third drink or his fourth drink. He made a whole lot of sober choices before he ever made a drunk choice. The alcohol is not to blame for this, he is. The lack of accountability for shit people do when they’ve been drinking is a joke. Alcohol doesn’t make you a different person, it just shows who you really are. And he apparently really is a piece of shit,

How the trial goes will be telling. Is he going to plead out or are we going to get a sob story about the alcohol’s interactions with medication, or it was too dark out, or it was too light out, or it’s the bar’s fault for overserving him? He’s entitled to the best defense he can get, but that doesn’t mean he has to use it.

You’d think someone working in the Columbus sports community might be even more aware of the dangers of drunk driving after Johnny and Matty Gaudreau’s deaths less than a year ago, but here we fucking are again and another person minding their own business is dead because some dumb cunt got behind the wheel drunk.

Fuck this guy.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
I dunno. Maybe the kids are better off growing up without this guy in their lives? Exactly what kind of example has he been setting for them? Maybe him not being around will help show them that there is a better way to be so that they don’t grow up thinking that his behavior is remotely normal. Some kids are better off without a dad around when their dad is a piece of shit.

And I vehemently disagree that he didn’t do something “on purpose”. Oh, “it’s not his fault, he was drunk” is an absolute cop out. Isn’t this the third time he’s been caught OVI? How many other times has he done this and not been caught. He’s had years and years to get his shit together and recognize he has a problem with booze and he hasn't done shit. How many OVI’s do you have to get before you make a change? Regardless, he wasn’t drunk when he made the decision to go to a bar and start drinking, he wasn’t drunk when he order his second drink or his third drink or his fourth drink. He made a whole lot of sober choices before he ever made a drunk choice. The alcohol is not to blame for this, he is. The lack of accountability for shit people do when they’ve been drinking is a joke. Alcohol doesn’t make you a different person, it just shows who you really are. And he apparently really is a piece of shit,

How the trial goes will be telling. Is he going to plead out or are we going to get a sob story about the alcohol’s interactions with medication, or it was too dark out, or it was too light out, or it’s the bar’s fault for overserving him? He’s entitled to the best defense he can get, but that doesn’t mean he has to use it.

You’d think someone working in the Columbus sports community might be even more aware of the dangers of drunk driving after Johnny and Matty Gaudreau’s deaths less than a year ago, but here we fucking are again and another person minding their own business is dead because some dumb cunt got behind the wheel drunk.

Fuck this guy.
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Mike80 said:
Two lives ended when Barton decided to drive drunk.

Oh and Criminal negligence, which is what this is by Barton, is not a "mistake". This isn't his first rodeo being a drunk driver.
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Is it more likely they want to hurt people or did he think he could just make it home?

They always think they can make it home. Yes, he made the biggest mistake of his life but he didn’t set out to kill someone. He set out to get home in his own car. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve blame but I am saying that no doubt Alcohol severely impacts your decision making. Blame it on the booze? It’s a shared blame. He shouldn’t have got hammer and driven at likely 100mph. However he wouldn’t have been going 100mph the wrong way without the booze.

He deserves his time and hopefully he accepts responsibility.

As for his kids being better off? Maybe but I doubt it. Hopefully Kirk can learn from this and help his kids learn this lesson when he gets out.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Is it more likely they want to hurt people or did he think he could just make it home?

They always think they can make it home. Yes, he made the biggest mistake of his life but he didn’t set out to kill someone. He set out to get home in his own car. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve blame but I am saying that no doubt Alcohol severely impacts your decision making. Blame it on the booze? It’s a shared blame. He shouldn’t have got hammer and driven at likely 100mph. However he wouldn’t have been going 100mph the wrong way without the booze.

He deserves his time and hopefully he accepts responsibility.

As for his kids being better off? Maybe but I doubt it. Hopefully Kirk can learn from this and help his kids learn this lesson when he gets out.
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Alcohol is an inanimate object. It’s no more responsible for this than his car — if Kirk didn’t have a truck that could go 100 MPH, this wouldn’t have happened, so Ford shares some blame, too! Hell, if the road wasn’t there, he wouldn’t have been driving in that place, so it’s the pavement’s fault. It’s bullshit. He may not have gone out that night intending to kill someone but he did and it is a direct result of his actions alone.

Kirk chose to drive. Kirk chose to drink. He chose to keep drinking. He has a history with alcohol and knows the effect it has on him and his decision-making and yet he continues to choose to do it. He wasn’t drunk when he started drinking. Getting drunk isn’t something that happened TO him. It is something he chose to do to himself.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Is it more likely they want to hurt people or did he think he could just make it home?

They always think they can make it home. Yes, he made the biggest mistake of his life but he didn’t set out to kill someone. He set out to get home in his own car. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve blame but I am saying that no doubt Alcohol severely impacts your decision making. Blame it on the booze? It’s a shared blame. He shouldn’t have got hammer and driven at likely 100mph. However he wouldn’t have been going 100mph the wrong way without the booze.

He deserves his time and hopefully he accepts responsibility.

As for his kids being better off? Maybe but I doubt it. Hopefully Kirk can learn from this and help his kids learn this lesson when he gets out.
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His excessive rate of speed through a town isn’t just “trying to get home.”

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
Is it more likely they want to hurt people or did he think he could just make it home?

They always think they can make it home. Yes, he made the biggest mistake of his life but he didn’t set out to kill someone. He set out to get home in his own car. I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve blame but I am saying that no doubt Alcohol severely impacts your decision making. Blame it on the booze? It’s a shared blame. He shouldn’t have got hammer and driven at likely 100mph. However he wouldn’t have been going 100mph the wrong way without the booze.

He deserves his time and hopefully he accepts responsibility.

As for his kids being better off? Maybe but I doubt it. Hopefully Kirk can learn from this and help his kids learn this lesson when he gets out.
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Entirely irrelevant. You could have saved yourself the 3 minutes and not type out this nonsense.

I realize you're just playing a role here but holy hell give it a rest already.
 
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