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MaxBuck
SoCal, Baby!
I'm not sure Michigan's defense is as good as TCU's, but I guess we'll find out. Penn State is always exceptionally tough in Beaver Stadium, especially at night with that white out shit and the stupid, deafness-inducing lion roar sound.
Watch that 93-yard run again. Malik Harrison was nearly stride for stride with Anderson; the problem was he started 5 yards behind. He's plenty fast, and I'd say overall he's our best linebacker.
I don't think our LBs have any issues with their athleticism or speed at all; Harrison, Browning and Werner all look to me like exceptional athletes with great speed for their position. I see it as a coaching problem pure and simple.
Our DBs, on the other hand, are not particularly speedy; we've been spoiled in recent years by guys like Lattimore, Hooker and Roby. Honestly, I've been impressed by Shaun Wade as much as by anyone back there not named Jordan Fuller. Maybe we need to just get the 4 best DBs back there (which I'd say are Wade, Fuller, Sheffield and Okudah) as the starters and fill in the nickel when we need to.
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You can take the team out of the midmajors, but you can't take the midmajor out of the team.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Four Minutes That May Have Changed The Buckeyes’ Season
Football is a 60-minute game. Coaches have been spouting that cliche for decades, and it remains true.
But Saturday night in Arlington, it took only four minutes for No. 4 Ohio State to change not only the course of its game against No. 15 TCU, but perhaps its whole season.
The Buckeyes trailed the Horned Frogs 21-13 when they got the ball with just over seven minutes left in the third quarter.
At the time, the team was reeling. The offense had come up empty on its previous three possessions. The defense had gotten gashed for the longest run by an opponent in school history, and then gave up a touchdown drive after halftime that turned a 14-13 deficit into a much deeper hole.
And then, in the span of 14 plays and exactly 4:01 off the clock, that eight-point deficit became a 12-point lead.
Facing a 2nd-and-10 at their own 37, quarterback Dwayne Haskins hit Parris Campbell on a slip-screen. Campbell cut inside and turned on the jets, outracing TCU defenders to the end zone. That made it 21-19 Horned Frogs.
On the third play of TCU’s next possession, defensive tackle Dre’Mont Jones read a shovel pass from TCU’s Shawn Robinson, grabbed it and ran it back 28 yards for a touchdown and a 26-21 Buckeye lead.
“With a quarterback like that, I know he likes to run,” said Jones. “On that play in particular, he was a little hesitant and running on the outside. So I sat back to see what happened, and I read it perfectly. The ball came directly towards me.”
After another fruitless Frog march, OSU cornerback Shaun Wade blocked a punt, setting the Buckeye offense up at the TCU 25.
It took exactly two more plays for Haskins to find K.J. Hill for a touchdown.
Just like that, a 21-13 hole was a 33-21 mountain, and TCU never recovered.
A potential early-season loss that could have put the Buckeyes’ College Football Playoff hopes in danger, instead became a quality non-conference win on their Playoff resume.
OSU acting head coach Ryan Day sounded a little surprised at how quickly, and dramatically, his team’s fortunes swung.
“It’s a second and long. We hit the screen to Parris [Campbell]. Parris comes out back of the back end. We get the turnover by Dre’Mont, get the ball back and it hit for K.J.,” Day said. “It went fast right there, and that’s where the game, I think, turned.”
Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/09/four-minutes-may-changed-buckeyes-season/
Football is a 60-minute game. Coaches have been spouting that cliche for decades, and it remains true.
But Saturday night in Arlington, it took only four minutes for No. 4 Ohio State to change not only the course of its game against No. 15 TCU, but perhaps its whole season.
The Buckeyes trailed the Horned Frogs 21-13 when they got the ball with just over seven minutes left in the third quarter.
At the time, the team was reeling. The offense had come up empty on its previous three possessions. The defense had gotten gashed for the longest run by an opponent in school history, and then gave up a touchdown drive after halftime that turned a 14-13 deficit into a much deeper hole.
And then, in the span of 14 plays and exactly 4:01 off the clock, that eight-point deficit became a 12-point lead.
Facing a 2nd-and-10 at their own 37, quarterback Dwayne Haskins hit Parris Campbell on a slip-screen. Campbell cut inside and turned on the jets, outracing TCU defenders to the end zone. That made it 21-19 Horned Frogs.
On the third play of TCU’s next possession, defensive tackle Dre’Mont Jones read a shovel pass from TCU’s Shawn Robinson, grabbed it and ran it back 28 yards for a touchdown and a 26-21 Buckeye lead.
“With a quarterback like that, I know he likes to run,” said Jones. “On that play in particular, he was a little hesitant and running on the outside. So I sat back to see what happened, and I read it perfectly. The ball came directly towards me.”
After another fruitless Frog march, OSU cornerback Shaun Wade blocked a punt, setting the Buckeye offense up at the TCU 25.
It took exactly two more plays for Haskins to find K.J. Hill for a touchdown.
Just like that, a 21-13 hole was a 33-21 mountain, and TCU never recovered.
A potential early-season loss that could have put the Buckeyes’ College Football Playoff hopes in danger, instead became a quality non-conference win on their Playoff resume.
OSU acting head coach Ryan Day sounded a little surprised at how quickly, and dramatically, his team’s fortunes swung.
“It’s a second and long. We hit the screen to Parris [Campbell]. Parris comes out back of the back end. We get the turnover by Dre’Mont, get the ball back and it hit for K.J.,” Day said. “It went fast right there, and that’s where the game, I think, turned.”
Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/09/four-minutes-may-changed-buckeyes-season/
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Stock Market Report: Buying Dre’Mont Jones, K.J. Hill, selling Bill Davis back to the NFL
Get the ball to the most reliable playmakers, and quit it with the gimmick plays.
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Well, that was fun, yeah? Ohio State, with Ryan Day as the acting head coach for the final game before Urban Meyer returns, took care of business in Arlington, Texas against TCU, 40-28. It wasn’t a pretty game, and when the Buckeyes were trailing 21-13 in the third quarter, there were certainly plenty of concerns.
However, a Parris Campbell touchdown, a Dre’Mont Jones Piesman worthy pick-six, and a K.J. Hill touchdown later, and Ohio State had a 12-point lead. The Buckeyes never looked back after the electric third quarter, striking once more in the fourth and shutting TCU’s offense down to lock up their first top-25 win of the season.
As with any win of this magnitude, and in a game that was that close for a large portion of the 60 minutes, there are plenty of things to take away, and that means there are plenty of things for us to buy and sell in this week’s Stock Market Report.
Blue-Chip stocks
Dre’Mont Jones, DT: I think Dre’Mont Jones was the most important player of this game for Ohio State. Six tackles, two of which were for a loss, a sack, two passes batted, and of course, the biggest play of the game, his spectacular shovel pass pick-six that gave Ohio State a lead that they wouldn’t look back from.
Jones was completely unblockable all night long, and in a game where much of the talk was focused on Nick Bosa’s uh, groin, the star of the line, and the team as a whole, was Jones. He’s been excellent all season, but this just furthers the theory that Dre’Mont Jones may be the best player on this entire Buckeye line.
K.J. Hill, WR: Looking for the best receiver on the roster? Look no further than Arkansas native K.J. Hill. Often forgotten over the past few years, Hill has been a model of consistency, catching everything thrown at him, and picking up yards exactly when Ohio State needs them most.
He was clutch on several third down catches, and if it wasn’t for his sure hands, there may have been a very different result here. Hill finished with six receptions, 95 yards, and a touchdown.
Dwayne Haskins, QB: I’ve joked about it in the past, but honestly, Dwayne Haskins may make this column every single week this year. While his stats this week weren’t as gaudy as they were in the first two games of the year, Haskins was still a star in this game. And, if Dre’Mont isn’t the reason for Ohio State’s momentum shift in the third quarter, Dwayne is.
He stayed calm even when the Buckeyes were trailing 21-13, delivering a strike to Parris Campbell, and Parris did the rest, picking up 63 yards and finding the endzone to cut the deficit to two.
Facing heavy pressure all night, Dwayne stood tall in the pocket, and delivered passes right where they needed to be on his way to a 344-yard, two-score performance.
Solid investments
Jonathan Cooper, DE: Jonathan Cooper, filling in for Nick Bosa after he went down for the game with an “abdominal injury”, looked exactly how you’d want a former five-star defensive end to look. There was very little— to no— drop-off between the two players, as Cooper played for basically the entire second half, and did an excellent job in all facets of the game.
He helped stuff the run, he set a great edge when TCU tried to run outside, and even picked up a big sack. Obviously a long term injury for Bosa would be bad news for Ohio State, as any injury to a player of his caliber would be. However, Ohio Sate is in good hands with Cooper, and he proved that on the biggest stage tonight.
J.K. Dobbins, RB: There was a general feeling this week against TCU’s aggressive defense that J.K. Dobbins could be in for a big game, and that was proven correct all game last night. Dobbins was able to dodge over-pursuing defenders throughout the game, and came up huge in the second half.
His quick feet and elusive escapability made him the perfect fit for this game-plan, and it was really shocking to see so many handoffs going to Mike Weber rather than Dobbins, especially late in the game. Weber is a great running back, Dobbins is a great running back, but in this game, Dobbins was the great running back. Ohio State should have stuck with the hot hand.
The cornerbacks: A lot can be said about Ohio State’s defensive backfield through three games, but I think after this game, it’s safe to say that the issues are not at cornerback, but rather at safety. The four main corners, Damon Arnette, Kendall Sheffield, Jeffrey Okudah and Shaun Wade (Shaun Wade hive stand up!) all looked very solid.
Against a great receiving group, they only allowed a couple of big plays, and were able to keep TCU’s passing game, specifically the down field passing game, contained very well. Arnette was beaten a couple of times, as were Wade and Sheffield, but the only truly big pass of the game, a 51-yard touchdown to TreVontae Hights, was the fault of safety Jahsen Wint, not a cornerback. Maybe one of these guys (Wade or Okudah) should be given a shot at that open safety slot next to Jordan Fuller.
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Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2...rket-report-dremont-jones-k-j-hill-bill-davis
Get the ball to the most reliable playmakers, and quit it with the gimmick plays.
Well, that was fun, yeah? Ohio State, with Ryan Day as the acting head coach for the final game before Urban Meyer returns, took care of business in Arlington, Texas against TCU, 40-28. It wasn’t a pretty game, and when the Buckeyes were trailing 21-13 in the third quarter, there were certainly plenty of concerns.
However, a Parris Campbell touchdown, a Dre’Mont Jones Piesman worthy pick-six, and a K.J. Hill touchdown later, and Ohio State had a 12-point lead. The Buckeyes never looked back after the electric third quarter, striking once more in the fourth and shutting TCU’s offense down to lock up their first top-25 win of the season.
As with any win of this magnitude, and in a game that was that close for a large portion of the 60 minutes, there are plenty of things to take away, and that means there are plenty of things for us to buy and sell in this week’s Stock Market Report.
Blue-Chip stocks
Dre’Mont Jones, DT: I think Dre’Mont Jones was the most important player of this game for Ohio State. Six tackles, two of which were for a loss, a sack, two passes batted, and of course, the biggest play of the game, his spectacular shovel pass pick-six that gave Ohio State a lead that they wouldn’t look back from.
Jones was completely unblockable all night long, and in a game where much of the talk was focused on Nick Bosa’s uh, groin, the star of the line, and the team as a whole, was Jones. He’s been excellent all season, but this just furthers the theory that Dre’Mont Jones may be the best player on this entire Buckeye line.
K.J. Hill, WR: Looking for the best receiver on the roster? Look no further than Arkansas native K.J. Hill. Often forgotten over the past few years, Hill has been a model of consistency, catching everything thrown at him, and picking up yards exactly when Ohio State needs them most.
He was clutch on several third down catches, and if it wasn’t for his sure hands, there may have been a very different result here. Hill finished with six receptions, 95 yards, and a touchdown.
Dwayne Haskins, QB: I’ve joked about it in the past, but honestly, Dwayne Haskins may make this column every single week this year. While his stats this week weren’t as gaudy as they were in the first two games of the year, Haskins was still a star in this game. And, if Dre’Mont isn’t the reason for Ohio State’s momentum shift in the third quarter, Dwayne is.
He stayed calm even when the Buckeyes were trailing 21-13, delivering a strike to Parris Campbell, and Parris did the rest, picking up 63 yards and finding the endzone to cut the deficit to two.
Facing heavy pressure all night, Dwayne stood tall in the pocket, and delivered passes right where they needed to be on his way to a 344-yard, two-score performance.
Solid investments
Jonathan Cooper, DE: Jonathan Cooper, filling in for Nick Bosa after he went down for the game with an “abdominal injury”, looked exactly how you’d want a former five-star defensive end to look. There was very little— to no— drop-off between the two players, as Cooper played for basically the entire second half, and did an excellent job in all facets of the game.
He helped stuff the run, he set a great edge when TCU tried to run outside, and even picked up a big sack. Obviously a long term injury for Bosa would be bad news for Ohio State, as any injury to a player of his caliber would be. However, Ohio Sate is in good hands with Cooper, and he proved that on the biggest stage tonight.
J.K. Dobbins, RB: There was a general feeling this week against TCU’s aggressive defense that J.K. Dobbins could be in for a big game, and that was proven correct all game last night. Dobbins was able to dodge over-pursuing defenders throughout the game, and came up huge in the second half.
His quick feet and elusive escapability made him the perfect fit for this game-plan, and it was really shocking to see so many handoffs going to Mike Weber rather than Dobbins, especially late in the game. Weber is a great running back, Dobbins is a great running back, but in this game, Dobbins was the great running back. Ohio State should have stuck with the hot hand.
The cornerbacks: A lot can be said about Ohio State’s defensive backfield through three games, but I think after this game, it’s safe to say that the issues are not at cornerback, but rather at safety. The four main corners, Damon Arnette, Kendall Sheffield, Jeffrey Okudah and Shaun Wade (Shaun Wade hive stand up!) all looked very solid.
Against a great receiving group, they only allowed a couple of big plays, and were able to keep TCU’s passing game, specifically the down field passing game, contained very well. Arnette was beaten a couple of times, as were Wade and Sheffield, but the only truly big pass of the game, a 51-yard touchdown to TreVontae Hights, was the fault of safety Jahsen Wint, not a cornerback. Maybe one of these guys (Wade or Okudah) should be given a shot at that open safety slot next to Jordan Fuller.
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Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2...rket-report-dremont-jones-k-j-hill-bill-davis
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That is manifestation of the philosophy of what a Meyerball defense is built to do though. It's always going to be "confusing" like that.
Rush the passer with a lead and make big plays. What they give up in fundamental soundness they make up for in big plays of their own.
Basically I'll give you yards and 17-21 points but if my defense is creating turnovers for my offense or scoring to go along with my offense, I will win.
Now, the current state of LB and S play is unacceptable but that's obvious. I'm talking about the philosophy of it, not the current level of tactical execution.
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Zem
Hall of Fame
I find the most comfort in the fact that this was their revenge game for being dropped out of the playoffs in 2014, and they failed. He's bitter and it will clearly eat away at him until he beats the Buckeyes, which is looking like never. He can whine about this all he wants to; it's satisfying that he will lose sleep over it for years to come.
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Poe McKnoe
Head Coach
Exactly why I wanted another TD before this one ended. Patterson has always been a humorless assclown.
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How many snaps did OSU's primary offense fail to snap properly? 20? At least a few of those were dribbled briefly.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
They aren't really faster in a straight line or top end speed. Our CBs were able to stay step for step pretty easy when they ran downfield. But they are a lot twitchier. Their back and receivers see the gaps, cut and accelerate faster than I think I've ever seen. Their big plays were a result of breaking ankles and YAC. Combine this quick twitch with their insane play speed and it was overwhelming. Oregon always lined up and snapped the ball quick, but they didn't have so many twitchy guys. Patterson called a hell of a game, and they let it all out on the field.
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TampaBuckeyes
Assistant Coach
They only made 1 error that was a gift: the bad snap on the punt. That was essentially giving up 3 (turning it over in FG range). His defense gave up the other 4.
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