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Ohio State vs. Purdue, Wednesday, January 23 @ 7 pm, BTN

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I didn't watch most of the first half, but I thought they played pretty well the second half. Andre was making everything, Musa had a solid game. Small ball seemed to work, looked like something to build off of. Kaleb and CJ both had tough games, and the reality is whenever the Bucks play a quality opponent, this team is not good enough to win without either of those two playing well and producing.
 
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I watched the middle ten minutes of the second half. It's just not that good of a team from defense, to ball handing to shooting, and they miss KBD way more than most of us thought. Hopefully, the infusion of talent next year will get things back on track. They beat the juggalos in Cincy, so this team will always be special for that.
 
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So, they shoot over 52% from the floor, make ten 3's and still lose by double digits?

It's pretty simple to me. They foul way too much on defense and they fall in love with the jump shot when they get down and aren't creating foul-shooting/easy-point opportunities for themselves.

During the current losing streak, they are being out-shot at the line 124 to 71. 95 made FT's to 51. For u numbers lovers, that's 19 made FT's to 10 made FT's average difference in each of the last 5 games.

There is the difference in winning 2 or 3 of those 5 games right there.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
and they miss KBD way more than most of us thought.
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And this is where I get really bothered.

Of course we were gonna miss the B1G PotY. And nothing about the non-conference really swayed me from that.

And we miss Tate a lot. He wasn't the talent or go-to guy that KBD was but he did a LOT of things for us on both ends of the court, just like KBD.

And the way CJ and Keyshawn have been playing, we miss Kam Williams, too. Hell, we kind of miss Andrew Dakich.

The only two things that are surprising to me or that I wasn't quite expecting in the preseason: 1) I thought the B1G was going to be up this year but I didn't think the B1G was going to be THIS good in terms of its quality depth, we're kind of on a murderer's row stretch at the moment, and 2) I was expecting the level of positive contribution that we were seeing from CJ and Keyshawn to be roughly similar to what we ended up seeing in the OOC schedule (though I had Woods pegged much more as a shooter than glue guy/facilitator) but since B1G play resumed CJ has been inconsistent to the point of just plain detrimental and Woods is giving us nothing.

Anyways, as far as this particular game goes:

Andre has the game of his life, the likes of which we will probably never see again, and so of course then everyone else on the team plays horribly besides Luther and Musa. (Though Ahrens was decent off the bench besides his turnovers)

I figured CJ's game would suffer a bit without Tate and KBD's usage but I didn't think we'd have a string of games like this from him in his senior season where he literally turns it over almost as much as he scores. There really isn't a way around his minutes, though.

Encouraging showing from Musa but the next time he plays consecutive games like this one will be the first time. Who knows, though, maybe that time is now.

Excited to see DWash start over Keyshawn but then promptly disappointed as DWash stunk up the court. Yet, again, Woods is giving us nothing right now so maybe accept the mistakes and missed shots and poor D and let DWash continue to play for the future. That said, Holtmann benched DWash for his lack of effort (or I guess he was sick or something?), and I do think that is something that has to be enforced and reinforced with the young guys. So, I dunno, I guess I hope DWash just steps it up next time. Or feels better. Whatever it is.

Ledee only played 5 minutes but he looked absolutely lost out there. Still almost would have rather he played 15 minutes and we lose by 20 or whatever than watch Kaleb perform the way he did in such a crucial game.

I knew Carsen was gonna get his and he did. I knew we'd get beat on the glass. All in all it was pretty much what I expected (though I certainly didn't expect Andre and Musa to be our best players--Purdue is like anti-Kryptonite for those guys or something), just with Purdue's score inflated more through all the free throws they hit.
 
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mendensa said:
So, they shoot over 52% from the floor, make ten 3's and still lose by double digits?

It's pretty simple to me. They foul way too much on defense and they fall in love with the jump shot when they get down and aren't creating foul-shooting/easy-point opportunities for themselves.

During the current losing streak, they are being out-shot at the line 124 to 71. 95 made FT's to 51. For u numbers lovers, that's 19 made FT's to 10 made FT's average difference in each of the last 5 games.

There is the difference in winning 2 or 3 of those 5 games right there.
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We were undersized and not exactly athletic before we lost Young, now those deficiencies are exacerbated.

Systemically, Holtmann knows we don't have the talent on offense so he's trying to get this team to hang their hat on staunch D. Problem is when you don't have athleticism and length and you're scrambling on the defensive end, you're gonna foul too much, especially the way the game is called now.

It can be better than what it has been recently but I don't think this is a problem that's going away this season.
 
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