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Game Thread Ohio State vs Illinois, 11/18/17 @ 3:30 (ABC)

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Telekinesis said:
From my understanding, they can get a share with a win over Illinois. TSUN going down to Whisky would clinch the division and a Big Ten Championship berth.
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I'm looking at all the different scenarios, and it dawned on me.....I don't know which record I need to be paying attention to. Is it the overall B1G record, or just the divisional B1G record?
 
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We need to put a huge number on the scoreboard to stay in consideration for the playoffs, IMO. 38-3 is a good win - a great win for most games, but that won't be big enough to stand out in the committee's eyes. I'm thinking a 62-3 type outcome will be necessary.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I'm looking at all the different scenarios, and it dawned on me.....I don't know which record I need to be paying attention to. Is it the overall B1G record, or just the divisional B1G record?
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The way I took it from the tiebreaker rules, divisional wins come first. Apparently it’s overall record that is taken into account first, though. I would think divisional wins/losses would hold more weight, but I guess not.

Who knows at this point. Best scenario:

Hope Whisky takes down TSUN and Bucks take care of business against Illinois.
 
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Ohio State clinches the East with a win over either Illinois or Michigan, because they would own all the tiebreakers vs the other East teams.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/archive/081011aaa.html

(a) If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.

(b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.
2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division.
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PSU already has two division losses (MSU, OSU).
UM already has two division losses (PSU, MSU).
MSU already has two conference losses (OSU, NW).

Hypothetically, even if PSU, MSU, and *gulp* UM all won out, so long as OSU beats Illinois creating a logjam with four teams having 7-2 conference records: You immediately kick out PSU & UM based on their divisional records (they'd have two divisional losses apiece, plus be 1-2 vs the other three teams they're tied with), leaving MSU & OSU. Per Rule (b), at any point where tiebreakers have reduced the number of teams to two, you go back to head-to-head. OSU won head-to-head.

OSU and MSU having OOC losses does not matter because overall Win % isn't factored until the 7th tie breaking step, and that scenario won't occur this year.
 
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Dryden said:
Ohio State clinches the East with a win over either Illinois or Michigan, because they would own all the tiebreakers vs the other East teams.

http://www.bigten.org/sports/m-footbl/archive/081011aaa.html



PSU already has two division losses (MSU, OSU).
UM already has two division losses (PSU, MSU).
MSU already has two conference losses (OSU, NW).

Hypothetically, even if PSU, MSU, and *gulp* UM all won out, so long as OSU beats Illinois creating a logjam with four teams having 7-2 conference records: You immediately kick out PSU & UM based on their divisional records (they'd have two divisional losses apiece), leaving MSU & OSU. Per Rule (b), at any point where tiebreakers have reduced the number of teams to two, you go back to head-to-head. OSU won head-to-head.

OSU and MSU having OOC losses does not matter because overall Win % isn't factored until the 7th tie breaking step, and that scenario won't occur this year.
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This is what I was trying to explain to some folks, but I was gang tackled and told Ohio State cannot clinch a Championship berth by only beating Illinois.

Convo didn’t take place on BP, so I’ll leave it at that. :confused:
 
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From 11W


MICHIGAN MAKES THE BIG TEN TITLE GAME IF…
  • Michigan beats Ohio State AND Michigan State loses another game AND Penn State loses another game
Although a win over Ohio State would give Michigan the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Buckeyes, that would only help the Wolverines in the event of a two-way tie with the Buckeyes, because of the Wolverines’ previous losses to Michigan State and Penn State.

That means Michigan needs Michigan State to lose one of its final two regular-season games to either Maryland or Rutgers, and Penn State to lose one of its final two regular-season games to either Nebraska or Maryland – results that really shouldn’t happen, given that neither Maryland, Nebraska nor Rutgers has won a conference game against a Big Ten team with a winning record this year.
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tifwiw
 
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Dryden said:
Yeah, this is also a possibility.

And monkeys might fly out of my butt.
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