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Game Thread Ohio State v Washington 2018 Rose Bowl Pasadena, CA 1/1/19 5pm on ESPN

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Purdue getting crushed and Michigan getting smacked really doesn't make us look all that good with that Purdue loss. Sadly it only took 1 bad game to knock this team out of the playoffs. Nick Bosa not being around hurt in that Purdue game as the D got smacked all day long.
In the words of Herbstreit, "The optics aren't good," but that was hardly the Michigan team that took the field in Columbus. Devin Bush and Higdon sitting out seriously weakened them on both sides of the ball.

All of which makes me wonder what's going to happen to the TV money for the non-CFBP games. I don't blame kids for opting out of the minor bowl games, but I can forsee TV contracts leading to NCAA rulings that players must play unless not medically cleared. Would you put out the money to go to the Rose Bowl to see an Ohio State team minus Haskins, Hill, Weber, Pridgeon, Campbell, Dixon, McLaurin, and DreMont Jones? The Bucks have depth at those positions, but there's still a significant drop off in talent and I would think fan interest.
 
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All of which makes me wonder what's going to happen to the TV money for the non-CFBP games. I don't blame kids for opting out of the minor bowl games, but I can forsee TV contracts leading to NCAA rulings that players must play unless not medically cleared. Would you put out the money to go to the Rose Bowl to see an Ohio State team minus Haskins, Hill, Weber, Pridgeon, Campbell, Dixon, McLaurin, and DreMont Jones? The Bucks have depth at those positions, but there's still a significant drop off in talent and I would think fan interest.

Just how would the NCAA enforce that one? The players have either used up all of their NCAA elgibility or given it up by hiring an agent and declaring for the NFL draft.
 
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When TV money talks, people listen.

All in the initial contract... when post season play is included in the contract. There could be penalties, like having to repay part of your scholarship for failure to complete the team's season. (Drop out of a service academy and see what happens to your "free" tuition. Hmmmmm, those days may be over, but back when it was relevant to me, cadets and midshipmen were handed a bill that matched the cost of an Ivy league school.)

Will agents still lure kids? Do players drive nice cars, eat crab legs, live in houses off campus, have tutors and get into fake classes?
 
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In the words of Herbstreit, "The optics aren't good," but that was hardly the Michigan team that took the field in Columbus. Devin Bush and Higdon sitting out seriously weakened them on both sides of the ball.

All of which makes me wonder what's going to happen to the TV money for the non-CFBP games. I don't blame kids for opting out of the minor bowl games, but I can forsee TV contracts leading to NCAA rulings that players must play unless not medically cleared. Would you put out the money to go to the Rose Bowl to see an Ohio State team minus Haskins, Hill, Weber, Pridgeon, Campbell, Dixon, McLaurin, and DreMont Jones? The Bucks have depth at those positions, but there's still a significant drop off in talent and I would think fan interest.
Why would you want to force a kid to play who doesn't want to? He'd be out there with no heart and playing soft so as not to get hurt. They either want to be out there or they don't and forcing them to just doesn't seem like a good idea.
 
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Thought Lincoln freed the slaves back in 1865....or 64, don't quite remember. Exactly the point. How do you legislate that the scholarship players MUST perform in a bowl game? Guess one could, but any court worth it's salt would rule against, on the very grounds as the above. Besides, the 'fans filling the stands' are the ones that are coveted. Until seats are empty, then doubt it would help. Also heartily agree that the NCAA is impotent. No Consistency At All, and trying mightily to hold on to their power base. Would still bet that the 20 most powerful schools could band together and throw off the NCAA yoke of autocracy and form their own league, and sponsors would throw tons of money at their feet.
 
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Why would you want to force a kid to play who doesn't want to? He'd be out there with no heart and playing soft so as not to get hurt. They either want to be out there or they don't and forcing them to just doesn't seem like a good idea.
What makes a kid want to play in any game? It's not going to stop kids from half-assing - thinking of a whole year in which Clowney didn't do much - but the issue is in front of TV and a bunch of Chamber of Commerce types who have a vested interest in the games. As I asked earlier, how interested would you be in a game in which a significant number of first string Buckeyes would decide to take a powder? And if you're not interested and you don't buy a ticket or turn on the game, how interested is the business world in buying commercial time?
 
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In the words of Herbstreit, "The optics aren't good," but that was hardly the Michigan team that took the field in Columbus. Devin Bush and Higdon sitting out seriously weakened them on both sides of the ball.

All of which makes me wonder what's going to happen to the TV money for the non-CFBP games. I don't blame kids for opting out of the minor bowl games, but I can forsee TV contracts leading to NCAA rulings that players must play unless not medically cleared. Would you put out the money to go to the Rose Bowl to see an Ohio State team minus Haskins, Hill, Weber, Pridgeon, Campbell, Dixon, McLaurin, and DreMont Jones? The Bucks have depth at those positions, but there's still a significant drop off in talent and I would think fan interest.
A guy only worried about his draft position could suit up to fulfill that new rule, and then avoid contact in order to protect himself. Then would you have a referee flag him for "non-competitive effort"? Players could also fake getting injured early in the bowl game, if a guy says he's got headaches and/or double vision he's done for the day.

Bkb is correct about the NCAA looking terrible with such a rule. It would also be almost impossible to enforce. It shouldn't happen and never will.
 
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What makes a kid want to play in any game? It's not going to stop kids from half-assing - thinking of a whole year in which Clowney didn't do much - but the issue is in front of TV and a bunch of Chamber of Commerce types who have a vested interest in the games. As I asked earlier, how interested would you be in a game in which a significant number of first string Buckeyes would decide to take a powder? And if you're not interested and you don't buy a ticket or turn on the game, how interested is the business world in buying commercial time?

I'm a front of the jersey kind of guy. Enjoyed watching the Buckeyes shitcan USC w/o Denzel Ward. Would have enjoyed it less if his absence had been pivotal to be sure.
 
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When TV money talks, people listen.

All in the initial contract... when post season play is included in the contract. There could be penalties, like having to repay part of your scholarship for failure to complete the team's season. (Drop out of a service academy and see what happens to your "free" tuition. Hmmmmm, those days may be over, but back when it was relevant to me, cadets and midshipmen were handed a bill that matched the cost of an Ivy league school.)

Will agents still lure kids? Do players drive nice cars, eat crab legs, live in houses off campus, have tutors and get into fake classes?

The "scholarship contract" is between the school (not the NCAA) and the player. The school actually suing the player to repay part of the scholarship for failure to complete the team's season would be the worst "recruiting disadvantage" in the history NCAA scholarships. It would never happen.
 
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