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Ohio State Sophomores Required to Live on Campus

Piney;1080293; said:
wow... only 8 posts in and Ord turns to bashing smaller Ohio universities again.

I knew I should have taken the under... :wink2:

You call it bashing; I call it reiterating the history of why we have too much dorm space.

BTW, is the inherent and bizarre inconsistency of rooting for the football team of a university that your own alma mater tried to ruin ever pondered?
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1080307; said:
Didn't they turn the towers from 16 person suites into 8 person suites several years ago?

I knew about the law student dorm/apartments on South Campus. I didn't know that they built an actual new undergrad dorm there. Given undergraduate enrollment compared to 40 years ago, there really is no need for new dorms. Makes me wonder if they really might be preparing to "lose" the towers in the near future. One can only hope.

Yes they did with the tower.
The new south dorm is on neil avenue, they put the new style dining hall in there, where you have several different types of food and different meals count for different number of "swipes" on your meal plan, in addition to being able to use the "swipes" to buy things like a gallon of milk cereal bread etc to take to your room, and cook in your room.

The new North dorm is very high tech all sorts of wireless, and highspeed stuff, quite amazing actually.
 
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Man, I would not be a fan of the change. The dorms quickly lost their whimsy Winter quarter of my freshman year.

buckeyefool;1080332; said:
Yes they did with the tower.
The new south dorm is on neil avenue, they put the new style dining hall in there, where you have several different types of food and different meals count for different number of "swipes" on your meal plan, in addition to being able to use the "swipes" to buy things like a gallon of milk cereal bread etc to take to your room, and cook in your room.

The new North dorm is very high tech all sorts of wireless, and highspeed stuff, quite amazing actually.

Spring quarter of my freshman year I think was the first quarter Marketplace opened up. Thankfully I was able to enjoy that place on meal plan for one quarter. I made the mistake of getting in the way of Steve Rehring while waiting in line - I was afraid I'd get eaten!
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1080253; said:
Or, we could just tear down the frickin' towers once and for all and remove the Rhodes/Millett stain from our campus.


Those are my favorite dorms...don't tear them down!

They're also a very recognizable part of OSU, they're on frickin' NCAA for godsake!


On another note, when would this take effect? I'm going to be a sophomore next year and I don't want to get an apartment if I won't be allowed to live in it.
 
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Buckeye Maniac;1080353; said:
Those are my favorite dorms...don't tear them down!

They're also a very recognizable part of OSU, they're on frickin' NCAA for godsake!


On another note, when would this take effect? I'm going to be a sophomore next year and I don't want to get an apartment if I won't be allowed to live in it.

I would assume if they are just voting on it now, it would be for next years class at the earliest.
 
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Buckeye Maniac;1080353; said:
Those are my favorite dorms...don't tear them down!

They're also a very recognizable part of OSU, they're on frickin' NCAA for godsake!


On another note, when would this take effect? I'm going to be a sophomore next year and I don't want to get an apartment if I won't be allowed to live in it.

Just because they're recognizable doesn't mean that recognition is of a positive manner. I think most faculty and alumni would be happy to see them go. And I highly doubt that Gee and Wexner are making long term campus planning decisions that will affect Ohio State for generations based on the NCAA box cover.

If the trustees are deciding today, and The Dispatch article seems to imply that it's just a rubber-stamp formality for an issue that Gee has already decided, then my hunch is that they'd need to move very quickly with formal announcements for it to take effect this Fall. It probably won't take effect until Fall '09.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1080356; said:
Just because they're recognizable doesn't mean that recognition is of a positive manner. I think most faculty and alumni would be happy to see them go. And I highly doubt that Gee and Wexner are making long term campus planning decisions that will affect Ohio State for generations based on the NCAA box cover.

If the trustees are deciding today, and The Dispatch article seems to imply that it's just a rubber-stamp formality for an issue that Gee has already decided, then my hunch is that they'd need to move very quickly with formal announcements for it to take effect this Fall. It probably won't take effect until Fall '09.


I've always liked the towers, most people I know like them too, and the people that live there that I know really like them.

Thank you for the clear-up. I'd really hate to rent an apartment for next year and not be able to use it.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1080356; said:
If the trustees are deciding today, and The Dispatch article seems to imply that it's just a rubber-stamp formality for an issue that Gee has already decided, then my hunch is that they'd need to move very quickly with formal announcements for it to take effect this Fall. It probably won't take effect until Fall '09.

Thats what I meant when I said with next years class....meant with the incoming freshman class, so would go into effect as an actual rule fall of 09
 
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Buckeye Maniac;1080359; said:
I've always liked the towers, most people I know like them too, and the people that live there that I know really like them.

Thank you for the clear-up. I'd really hate to rent an apartment for next year and not be able to use it.

Really? Most people I know are either indifferent or don't like the towers. Especially the people that lived there.
 
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Old fart here: My sister entered OSU in the fall of 53. There were 2 dorms, Baker and Canfield and new dorms were just beginning to rise. She was assigned to Baker and wrote home about the johns with urinals still in them as Baker had been the mens dorm until that year. The next year she was in Bradley, one of the new dorms for women. (Jesse Owens was NOT allowed to live in Baker Hall even though he was a student, OSU housing was for "whites only.")

When I entered in 61 Steeb, Stradley and Park were mens dorms, Baker remained a girls dorm and there was talk of new dorms to be built on the north edge of the campus.

What gets lost in all of this is that the classroom buildings around the oval had been built for a school of somewhere in the vicinity of 10 to 15K. Thus, though the number of dorm rooms shot up dramatically between 1945 and 1970, the amount of classroom space did not. Rooming houses and Greek houses were abundant and solved a good portion of the upper class housing needs. I can't remember many kids who lived in apartments. I moved into one as a sophomore and I remember how different that was from what most of my peers experienced.

The lack of classroom space led to bigger classes and to the famous, "Look at the person on your left, look at the person on your right, two of three of you will not be here next year," speech. Open enrollment meant you got in, English 411 - 413 and Algebra 410 made sure you didn't overstay your welcome.

When I left in June of 67 the north campus complex had been completed and the towers were on the rise, but little had been done to fund more classroom space. Rhodes kept promising the folks at all the county fairs that, "When your child finishes high school and wants to go college, there'll be a room there waiting for him or her." He didn't bother to mention that there wouldn't be enough classroom space or that his bonds (sold by The Ohio Company, the financial wing of the Wolf Brothers [WBNS, Dispatch]whose plane flew him around the state) did not contain provisions to pay for classrooms and professors to fill those classes. This was true at BG, Kent, Ohio and Miami as well as OSU.

We often referred to OSU as the Big Farm. The Ag school owned all the land that is now West Campus, Schottenstine and the Woody Hayes Center. The Sundial, the campus humor magazine was dying, but still made money selling sweatshirts that read "Ohia State" mocking Rhodes accent.

Under the category, Can You Believe This?, when I entered OSU female students had hours. As freshmen they had to be in the dorms by 10 on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays and by 1 on Fridays and Saturdays. They were given something like 7 or 8 11s per quarter to use on Wednesdays and Sundays and three 2s for Fridays or Saturdays. As sophs they had as many 11s and 2s as they wanted to take. BUT, the dorm monitors and the dorm councils sent out "goons" to watch for PDA, Public Display of Affection, kiss a little to hard or allow your date to fondle your buns and you could be hauled before dorm council and they'd take away your late hour privileges! God help you if you were late... like the time I got a freshie back at 1:05... she lost her late privileges for the rest of the quarter. (and I stopped dating her... who wanted to go out with someone who had to be in by 10 all the time?) Further, all female students had to sign in and out any time they left the dorm if they knew they would be out past 7PM, stating where they were going and how long they anticipated being there. Lord help the girl who failed to sign out, or claimed to be staying at a friends house and was discovered someplace else. Need I add that men were never allowed above the lobby of any of the girls dorms, certainly never in a room except on move in day, nor were male students allowed to have females in their rooms. Winter could be awfully long for those without cars and access to the submarine races.

Oh, and walk? Hell, ROTC was mandatory for ALL male students for the first two years... or you could take an extra 9 hours per year in upper level math, science or language. That meant an hour of close order drill per week either on the parking lot behind the ROTC building or in the east side of the stadium in inclement weather. On the first Monday in May we had a huge review with Army, Air Force and Navy ROTC, the corps blanketing the Oval.

By my senior year things had started to lighten up. Female seniors were given keys to the front doors of their dorms and sorority houses and were allowed to come and go as they pleased on weekends. There were still no visiting priveleges for the opposite sex. Apartments were being built all around the campus and no one wanted to live in a dorm. The fraternity houses were clamping down on members and forcing them to live in the house or pay a fee equivilant to the cost of the rent.

If you ask me what killed the dorms, rooming houses and Greeks in the late 60s and early 70s, it was the "en loco parentis" rules the university tried to uphold at the height of the sexual revoultion.

By the time I returned to school in 69 the student rebellions had forced the review off the oval and when the Vietnam War ended compulsory ROTC was gone.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1080307; said:
Didn't they turn the towers from 16 person suites into 8 person suites several years ago?

I knew about the law student dorm/apartments on South Campus. I didn't know that they built an actual new undergrad dorm there. Given undergraduate enrollment compared to 40 years ago, there really is no need for new dorms. Makes me wonder if they really might be preparing to "lose" the towers in the near future. One can only hope.

I lived in Morrill my freshman year (2002) and we had 10 people in one suite. 4 people in one room (freshmans) and 2 in each for the rest. I was happy to move out.
 
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