Ohio State Sophomores Required to Live on Campus

[ORD_Buckeye]

Trustees deciding today.

The Columbus Dispatch : OSU may require sophomores to live on campus

 

[jimotis4heisman]

money maker...

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

From the article ORD linked:

All of Ohio's public universities except OSU and Youngstown State require sophomores to live on campus, Alutto said. At Miami University in Oxford, the requirement becomes effective this fall.

I did not know that...

It probably would have been good for my second year GPA, in all honesty.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

money maker...

In a sense I think you're right. While I do believe that the announced aims of this (better gpa, college experience and so on) are true and valid, I also believe that it's about filling dorm rooms also.

Remember that our existing stock of dormitories is based on enrollment projections from the late 1960s/early 70s when Rhodes (and his a-hole Board of Regents Chair John "Fredo" Millett) were pushing our undergrad enrollment well past 40K. 100K with several more towers was their ultimate warped goal. Currently, we're enrolling freshmen classes of 6K. I'm guessing that undergraduate enrollment will stabilize at around 30K in the next couple of years.

Ohio State is stuck with a base of dorms to accommodate 150% of the projected enrollment. I would say that it's not simply pure revenue farming but rather a necessary means to fill several thousand dorm rooms that would otherwise remain empty.

Or, we could just tear down the frickin' towers once and for all and remove the Rhodes/Millett stain from our campus.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Or, we could just tear down the frickin' towers once and for all and remove the Rhodes/Millett stain from our campus.

Amen. Those things are straight out of the Eastern Bloc.

 

[3074326]

I like this idea, the kids will have fun in the dorms. Class will be easier to attend if they're already on campus as well. My biggest thing about going to class is walking to the bus stop and then riding the crowded bus to class. It just annoys the hell out of me.

I say "the kids" making it sound like I'm older.. I'm only a junior.

 

[mross34]

I think another reason is the relative lack of desirable off-campus housing. In October 2004, someone leased out the 13 bedroom house I was living at on 14th for the 05-06 schoolyear. We were less than a month into our current lease. I know this is early, but you have to sign a lease by December if you want housing for the next September. This is trouble, especially if you have a falling out with your future roommates before you move in together.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Amen. Those things are straight out of the Eastern Bloc.

The Rhodes/Millett plan was for several more to be built, so that undergraduate enrollment could reach 100K.

Meanwhile, at the same time, this scumbag Millett protected Miami of Ohio (where he had been president before taking the BOR job) and allowed them to not even build enough dorm space to accommodate the baby boom enrollment surge. That's how Miami of Ohio "backdoored" their way into selective admissions--not through any prestigious history or decision of the state legislature. They did so through the favoritism and protection of their former president who was Board of Regents Chair at the same time he was Jim Rhodes' willing executioner in dumbing down the campus that until 1962 had been legally acknowledged (Eagleson Bill of 1906) as the state's flagship public university.

There's a lot more that Millet, Miami of Ohio and OU did back then including ending Ohio State's separate funding and trying to encircle Columbus with branch campuses--OU actually had one on the books to be located in Columbus, 3 miles away from Main Campus.

Beware Fredo, for their treachery knows no end. And that's a short lesson in why Ohio State can never trust the Fredo Universities and can never, ever take its boot off their throats again.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

My biggest thing about going to class is walking to the bus stop and then riding the crowded bus to class. It just annoys the hell out of me.

Bus?!?! Well, when I was in college, we walked to class! The 'cross campus power walk' was a staple mode of transportation - if you were good, you could make it from west campus to the south dorms in 12 minutes flat!

:p

 

[AKAK]

The Rhodes/Millett plan was for several more to be built, so that undergraduate enrollment could reach 100K.

I don't know what the official number planned was, but, according to one of the contractors that I talked to once, the elevation that was included on the blueprints for Lincoln/Morrill had 6 towers in the drawing, apparently. I don't remember how many on each side of the river. For any of you who might have been wondering... this explains why, after the fact, Drake Union ended up in a terminally stupid location.

 

[3074326]

Bus?!?! Well, when I was in college, we walked to class! The 'cross campus power walk' was a staple mode of transportation - if you were good, you could make it from west campus to the south dorms in 12 minutes flat!

:p

Haha, once I get to campus I walk, but the walk from Kinnear (where I live) would be quite a walk every day! :tongue2:

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I don't know what the official number planned was, but, according to one of the contractors that I talked to once, the elevation that was included on the blueprints for Lincoln/Morrill had 6 towers in the drawing, apparently. I don't remember how many on each side of the river. For any of you who might have been wondering... this explains why, after the fact, Drake Union ended up in a terminally stupid location.

Oh well, they took their last gasp effort to undo the decisions that were made a century earlier to pass them over. They failed, and now it's becoming clear how the whole issue is resolving itself:

 

[Piney]

wow... only 8 posts in and Ord turns to bashing smaller Ohio universities again.

I knew I should have taken the under...

 

[buckeyefool]

They have actually built 3 new dorms in the last 10 years. The have neilwoods gables that is right next to the bussiness college that is for upperclassmen only, and then they have the new south dorn that has been open for a couple of year now, I beleive that is only for upperclassmen also as both those sets of dorms have small kitchette type set ups in them. They also just turn the building that was in with the north dorms that was an office building (can't remember the name of it) back into a dorm. Even with that, many of the dorms are overflowing when the students still move in.

All that being said, I think it is a good idea since many times you do have to decide just a few months after you get there if you are going to stay or move into an apartment. Plus with the changes that many of they have made to many of these dorms, more people probally won't mind living in them anyway.

Remember that our existing stock of dormitories is based on enrollment projections from the late 1960s/early 70s when Rhodes (and his a-hole Board of Regents Chair John "Fredo" Millett) were pushing our undergrad enrollment well past 40K. 100K with several more towers was their ultimate warped goal. Currently, we're enrolling freshmen classes of 6K. I'm guessing that undergraduate enrollment will stabilize at around 30K in the next couple of years.
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[ORD_Buckeye]

They have actually built 3 new dorms in the last 10 years. The have neilwoods gables that is right next to the bussiness college that is for upperclassmen only, and then they have the new south dorn that has been open for a couple of year now, I beleive that is only for upperclassmen also as both those sets of dorms have small kitchette type set ups in them. They also just turn the building that was in with the north dorms that was an office building (can't remember the name of it) back into a dorm. Even with that, many of the dorms are overflowing when the students still move in.

Didn't they turn the towers from 16 person suites into 8 person suites several years ago?

I knew about the law student dorm/apartments on South Campus. I didn't know that they built an actual new undergrad dorm there. Given undergraduate enrollment compared to 40 years ago, there really is no need for new dorms. Makes me wonder if they really might be preparing to "lose" the towers in the near future. One can only hope.