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Social media and the entitlement of everyone needs to know what I think, what I'm doing, and the incessant invisible competition with each other is disgusting.
Post-Game Thoughts
Not much to say, but here it goes....
1. Before the season began, a lot of Buckeye commentators said that this team is the most talented of the Urban Meyer era. Really?
Quite frankly, there are a number of players who have no business being on this team, much less playing, much less starting. The talent level, overall, is simply not there.
Here's the 2014 team that started in the National Championship Game, with no names, just draft position (UD = undrafted):
LT: 1st (#16).... DE: 1st (#3)
LG: 1st (#21).... DE: UD
OC: UD........... DT: 3rd
RG: 3rd.......... DT: 6th
RT: UD........... LB: 1st (#20)
TE: 3rd.......... LB: 2nd
TE: 3rd.......... LB: 4th
WR: 2nd.......... LB: UD
WR: 2nd.......... CB: 1st (#10)
WR: 6th.......... CB: 1st (#24)
RB: 1st (#4)..... CB: 4th
HB: UD............ S: 2nd
QB: 4th........... S: UD
Does anybody really see that kind of talent on this team? Especially on the offensive line and the defensive back seven?
2. With that being said, sometimes a great college football team needs some great college football players. Guys who might be a couple inches short, a few pounds light, a step slow to fit the NFL prototype, but who are just really tough, hard-nosed, high-motor, disciplined kids. Guys who leave it all on the field on every play. Guys who just love playing the game and don't care about the millions available in the pros. Wouldn't a couple of Borens look great on this team?
3. Ohio State's last four losses (Clemson 2016; Oklahoma 2017; Iowa 2017; Purdue 2018) have been by an average of 26.5 points. In those four games, Ohio State has been outscored 166 to 60. Nick Saban doesn't lose games like that. Dabo Swinney doesn't lose games like that. And as much as I hate to say it, Jim Harbaugh doesn't lose games like that.
4. This team is both mentally and physically soft and it shows in undisciplined play. The Buckeyes had another 10 penalties for 86 yards. And they quit. Not once, but twice.
Down 7-3 with just under two minutes left in the first half, Dwayne Haskins threw a pass to Binjimen Victor in the end zone. Victor got both hands on the ball, but he didn't fight hard enough and the ball was knocked away. Then Blake Haubeil missed a 37-yard field goal attempt. Then D.J. Knox ran for 19 yards when Purdue was probably contemplating going into halftime with a 4-point lead. Two plays later Purdue hits a 37-yard pass and Purdue's in the red zone. A few plays later they score a touchdown and take a 14-3 lead into the locker room.
Then midway through the 3rd quarter, with Purdue leading 14-6, the Buckeye defense forces a punt. And then they rough the punter. As a fan, I knew it was game over. And so did the Buckeyes, as they were outscored 35 to 14 from that point forward. That's quitting, folks.
5. On November 7, 1998, John Cooper lost at home to a 28-point underdog Michigan State, essentially blowing all hopes at a national championship with a loaded team. Even though Cooper lasted for another 2+ seasons after that dreadful loss, everyone knew that his pink slip had been signed that night. Did Urban Meyer have his John Cooper moment last night?
Not much to say, but here it goes....
1. Before the season began, a lot of Buckeye commentators said that this team is the most talented of the Urban Meyer era. Really?
Quite frankly, there are a number of players who have no business being on this team, much less playing, much less starting. The talent level, overall, is simply not there.
Here's the 2014 team that started in the National Championship Game, with no names, just draft position (UD = undrafted):
LT: 1st (#16).... DE: 1st (#3)
LG: 1st (#21).... DE: UD
OC: UD........... DT: 3rd
RG: 3rd.......... DT: 6th
RT: UD........... LB: 1st (#20)
TE: 3rd.......... LB: 2nd
TE: 3rd.......... LB: 4th
WR: 2nd.......... LB: UD
WR: 2nd.......... CB: 1st (#10)
WR: 6th.......... CB: 1st (#24)
RB: 1st (#4)..... CB: 4th
HB: UD............ S: 2nd
QB: 4th........... S: UD
Does anybody really see that kind of talent on this team? Especially on the offensive line and the defensive back seven?
2. With that being said, sometimes a great college football team needs some great college football players. Guys who might be a couple inches short, a few pounds light, a step slow to fit the NFL prototype, but who are just really tough, hard-nosed, high-motor, disciplined kids. Guys who leave it all on the field on every play. Guys who just love playing the game and don't care about the millions available in the pros. Wouldn't a couple of Borens look great on this team?
3. Ohio State's last four losses (Clemson 2016; Oklahoma 2017; Iowa 2017; Purdue 2018) have been by an average of 26.5 points. In those four games, Ohio State has been outscored 166 to 60. Nick Saban doesn't lose games like that. Dabo Swinney doesn't lose games like that. And as much as I hate to say it, Jim Harbaugh doesn't lose games like that.
4. This team is both mentally and physically soft and it shows in undisciplined play. The Buckeyes had another 10 penalties for 86 yards. And they quit. Not once, but twice.
Down 7-3 with just under two minutes left in the first half, Dwayne Haskins threw a pass to Binjimen Victor in the end zone. Victor got both hands on the ball, but he didn't fight hard enough and the ball was knocked away. Then Blake Haubeil missed a 37-yard field goal attempt. Then D.J. Knox ran for 19 yards when Purdue was probably contemplating going into halftime with a 4-point lead. Two plays later Purdue hits a 37-yard pass and Purdue's in the red zone. A few plays later they score a touchdown and take a 14-3 lead into the locker room.
Then midway through the 3rd quarter, with Purdue leading 14-6, the Buckeye defense forces a punt. And then they rough the punter. As a fan, I knew it was game over. And so did the Buckeyes, as they were outscored 35 to 14 from that point forward. That's quitting, folks.
5. On November 7, 1998, John Cooper lost at home to a 28-point underdog Michigan State, essentially blowing all hopes at a national championship with a loaded team. Even though Cooper lasted for another 2+ seasons after that dreadful loss, everyone knew that his pink slip had been signed that night. Did Urban Meyer have his John Cooper moment last night?
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GovTressel
Heisman
Response for #5....Meyer is 6-0 vs tsun-any Cooper comparisons stop there
As for #4...completely agree
#3 ... definitely a pattern at this point.
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LovelandBuckeye
You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. - UFM
Note to self: don't mix alcohol, your new prescription, and bad football. Fucking hell, I think that's what is meant by a bad trip.
Other than the Bucks losing I don't recall much of what I said or did late last night, and probably don't want to. Not even going to read the shit I posted here. If anybody felt targeted, my apologies.
You might want to check with @Jaxbuck too. Pretty sure you promised him your massive dildo collection.
Or maybe that's what last night's game felt like...a massive dildo jammed...you get the picture.
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Okay, let's try this:
In 1975, Woody Hayes was gift-wrapped a national championship. All he had to do was lead his 11-0-0 Buckeyes to a victory in the Rose Bowl against 8-2-1 UCLA, a team the Buckeyes had beaten earlier in the year by three touchdowns. Well, the Buckeyes peed down their collective legs (think 2006 NC game) and got beaten 23-10. Woody never really recovered from that loss: he never beat Michigan again (losing in 1976, 1977, and 1978); he got blown out in the 1978 Sugar Bowl (35-6) by Bear Bryant; he got blown out by Joe Paterno (19-0) in his next game; and then he threw The Punch to end the 1978 season at 7-4-1 and his career in infamy.
The point is this: Most every coach reaches his breaking point, the event from which he can never recover. Meyer will undoubtedly reach that point in his Ohio State career. Maybe last night was it. A loss like that would certainly be enough to break most people. EDIT: And as others have mentioned, Urban's demeanor on the sidelines just doesn't look right. He looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore.
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GovTressel
Heisman
So Meyer ends up punching a Clemson player, ending his career....I guess that means we’re making the playoffs! Yay!!!
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OregonBuckeye
Semper Fi Buckeyes
I beg to differ. He's lost 42-13 to both us and Penn State. You have plenty of ammo to work with. There's no need to reach in the trash and prop up Harbaugh to bolster your argument.
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Yep. They beat the shit out of UCLA 41-20 at the LA Coliseum the fourth game of the season...they rose to #1 in the polls after that win. They beat four teams during that season that were ranked at game time (#11 MSU, #7 PSU, #13 UCLA, and #4 Michigan). Rumor has it that he lost some of the locker room before the bowl game and the team essentially threw the game.
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In LJB's defense, those Ohio State and Penn State teams were a far cry from the 2017 Iowa and 2018 Purdue teams.
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OhioState001
Tressel Loyalist
I think the difference is that OSU and PSU were both really good teams. Is Harbaugh getting his ass beat by Purdue?
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Honor&Glory
Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
This is what bothers me more. It was to fucking Iowa and fucking Purdue.
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