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Game Thread Ohio State @ Nebraska - 09/28/19, 7:30PM (ABC)

Yeah - we still suck, but we aren't Jimblow levels of suckage....nor will we let it get to that point...

I put it somewhere else in this thread but, going back to the boxing analogy, this was a bad matchup for Nebraska.

With the coaching changes Day made on defense OSU went from a great opponent for Martinez to among the 2-3 very worst.

Dominant DL + athletic back 7 with plenty of guys who can spy the QB + coaches who call zone defenses so those athletes in the back 7 are looking in on the QB most of the time = big trouble for a JT Barrett/A Martinez focused offense. Same thing happened to OSU vs Clemson in '16.

You see real effort out of Frosts guys but they need to clean up penalties and turn overs. Offense is legitimately dangerous, the defense needs a talent infusion.
 
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What I dig:

Fields had some rather nice throws on the run to the sideline; it seemed that it games 1/2 those might sail over the WRs’ heads for incompletions or they have to make excessive effort to make the catch. Last night he hit a couple guys soundly on the outside for those easy first downs.

This is where the offense can get extremely dangerous; Fields we could conceivably start hitting those crossing routes while Fields rolls out; You won’t stop Olave, Victor or Wilson on those things if the protection gives the route enough time to develop separation.

Notice how we started faking some rollouts to take the shots? He should start improving his deep ball. It’ll be beautiful.

He looked a little more decisive last night and didn’t seem to hold onto the ball AS MUCH; but the tendency is still present at times. Something tells me he and Day are going to keep working at this; it’ll be necessary as defensive lines become better throughout the season.

What else:

Only 2 penalties on the road — hell yes. Focus, discipline seemed to be the theme I. Addiction to some beautiful execution.

The run in which Fields ran a keeper to the strong side: Day motions the tight end to draw away the safety due to the isolation. Wide receiver makes a great block on the outside and Fields gets in. Such a fantastic fucking design; great execution and an excellent timed call. You have to think Wilson is advising Day pretty well and telling him what he sees from up there. I think he’s a perfect advisor for a guy mind like Day.

Okudah is seriously on some next level shit. Guy just completely baited Martinez into that first pick — he toyed with him and had the confidence to know he could act like he was just slightly separated from the receiver. Marshon Lattimore-esque stuff.

I feel like I’m constantly watch Borland chase. It’s getting a bit old and increasingly obvious Browning is the better choice in basically all facets.

Chase Young needs no mention. Offensive lineman have hardly any time against him — like 2 seconds and he’s already recording a hurry. It’s unreal. Cooper also looks back to form and should eat quite a bit with the attention Young will command throughout the season. Ridiculous.

There was just so many little things to love from last night’s game; the score is obviously great but I always appreciate the nuances that get us there. Harrison needs to clean up the adrenaline cloud; the only reason they even entered our territory on that first drive was probably because o that pentalty.
 
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I put it somewhere else in this thread but, going back to the boxing analogy, this was a bad matchup for Nebraska.

With the coaching changes Day made on defense OSU went from a great opponent for Martinez to among the 2-3 very worst.

Dominant DL + athletic back 7 with plenty of guys who can spy the QB + coaches who call zone defenses so those athletes in the back 7 are looking in on the QB most of the time = big trouble for a JT Barrett/A Martinez focused offense. Same thing happened to OSU vs Clemson in '16.

You see real effort out of Frosts guys but they need to clean up penalties and turn overs. Offense is legitimately dangerous, the defense needs a talent infusion.

Defense needs a new coordinator. Never been enamored with Chinander.
 
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There was just so many little things to love from last night’s game; the score is obviously great but I always appreciate the nuances that get us there. Harrison needs to clean up the adrenaline cloud; the only reason they even entered our territory on that first drive was probably because o that pentalty.
I think what continues to astound and impress me is just how BAD this Ohio State team is making opponents look. Martinez passed for 47 yards. Forty. Seven. Fucking. Yards. His prior 4 games? 178 yards, 290 yards, 257 yards, and 327 yards. Like, while the schedule hasn't been the hardest whatsoever, the Buckeyes are making their opponents look like FCS teams on damn near a consistent basis. Florida Atlantic so far has been the closest game, and it was clear OSU more or less called off the dogs in the 2nd quarter after scoring 28 straight points.

This level of domination is honestly something I don't think I've ever seen from an Ohio State team. You saw it occasionally during the Urban years, but never like this.
 
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I think what continues to astound and impress me is just how BAD this Ohio State team is making opponents look. Martinez passed for 47 yards. Forty. Seven. Fucking. Yards. His prior 4 games? 178 yards, 290 yards, 257 yards, and 327 yards. Like, while the schedule hasn't been the hardest whatsoever, the Buckeyes are making their opponents look like FCS teams on damn near a consistent basis. Florida Atlantic so far has been the closest game, and it was clear OSU more or less called off the dogs in the 2nd quarter after scoring 28 straight points.

This level of domination is honestly something I don't think I've ever seen from an Ohio State team. You saw it occasionally during the Urban years, but never like this.
:lol: I saw Cooper-coached teams beat Notre Dame and Ped State by 4+ TDs in back-to-back weeks. Both were highly ranked at the time of their beatdown. Then he lost to dUMb and the bowl game. :(
 
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Ha well hopefully I'm not jinxing them. Just still dumbfounded by what I'm witnessing week after week lol.

Cooper had more to do with that than any bad luck/jinx

and I was going to mention those '95 and '96 teams in September and October as the only comp I have for total destruction like what we have seen so far

The other comp I would make is the '98 team in terms of this team having almost no visible flaws when you look at units across the board. The Achilles heel for '98 was Cooper, for '19 it' QB depth as near as I can tell right now.

So September tests all passed with an A+

tougher tests await
 
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Post Games News and Notes

1. Ohio State is an excellent football team, but let's take nothing away from Nebraska - the Cornhuskers are pure crap. It's hard to believe that Big Ten football writers picked the Huskers to win the West Division. Unless the Huskers can dramatically improve in the second half of the season, they are going to struggle to become bowl eligible. The Huskers already have two losses; they beat lowly Illinois by just four points; and they needed two defensive touchdowns and a punt return to beat South Alabama. If Nebraska is ever going to return to glory, it won't be for several more years.

2. Scott Frost is the Harbaugh of the West: a résumé with little real substance behind it. Frost will live off his one dubious accomplishment - a 13-0 season at some mid-major program - for several years, and he'll get several more for being a local Husker hero, but so far he has shown nothing that would place him anywhere near the coaching elite.

3. In the preseason, the so-called experts declared that Husker quarterback Adrian Martinez was a dark horse Heisman candidate, and that Justin Fields would be lucky to beat out Gunnar Hoak for the Buckeyes' starting job. Well, those tables turned quickly. Martinez is a turnover machine (5 interceptions, 4 fumbles) who talks a good game but can't beat anyone with a pulse, while Fields is putting up historic numbers as the successor to Dwayne Haskins, the guy who basically rewrote the Buckeye record book last season.

4. Now on to the Buckeyes. J.K. Dobbins was once again fantastic, with 24 carries for 177 yards (7.4 average), including eight rushes of 10+ yards. Dobbins is showing much better patience and vision than last season, and he is running with uncharacteristic power as well. Master Teague (12 carries, 77 yards, 2 TDs) and Marcus Crowley (4 carries, 45 yards, long of 36 yards) also helped to power a Buckeye rushing attack that racked up 368 yards (6.9 average) on the ground.

5. When Justin Fields (15/21, 212 yards, 3 TD) makes his read quickly, he is lethal. Other than barely overthrowing a wide open Chris Olave (3 receptions, 30 yards) at the end of the first half, Fields consistently delivered the ball on time and on target. Fields's issues arise when his first read isn't there, and that's when he misses receivers and throws late. Fields didn't have to do much against a vastly overmatched Nebraska squad, and his most important contributions came in the running game (9 rushes, 93 yards, long of 41 yards, TD).

6. The Buckeye defense held Nebraska to 7 points and 231 total yards; forced three turnovers (2 interceptions by Jeff Okudah; interception by Jordan Fuller); and sacked Adrian Martinez four times (including once on 4th-and-goal to kill a potential TD drive). However, the run defense was semi-porous, allowing 184 yards on 39 carries (4.7 average). Granted, much of Nebraska's success in the ground game came in the second half when the outcome had already been determined, including a 56-yard run by Adrian Martinez (the longest play allowed by Ohio State this season); but Nebraska did have 11 rushes for 58 yards (5.3 average) in the first quarter. If we eliminate the outlier (56 yard run) and the sacks (4 for -23 yards), then Nebraska had 151 yards on 35 carries (4.3 average). The Buckeye defense will need to tighten up a bit against Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Penn State.

7. Baron Browning (7 tackles, 2 TFL, .5 sack) is just so much better than Tuf Borland (1 tackle). The coaches know what they are doing, of course, so there must be some reason why Browning had seen so little action prior to this season. I hope that Browning's issues are now behind him and that he will continue to see major playing time at MLB (although Borland is still the nominal starter), because the kid flashes whenever he's on the field. A rising star.

8. Chase Young had (for him) a rather "meh" game, with three tackles and a strip sack. Nebraska only ran 21 pass plays all game (8 completions, 6 incompletions, 3 interceptions, 4 sacks), so Young didn't have many opportunities to make plays. Jashon Cornell continued his impressive senior campaign, with 3 tackles, 2 TFL, and .5 sacks; for the season, Cornell has 13 tackles, 5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, and a forced fumble. True freshman Zach Harrison had two tackles, both for losses. One of last year's whipping boys, linebacker Pete Werner, has been much improved under new coaching in 2019, and last night he had the hit of the game (and maybe the season):

 
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NEBRASKA HEAD COACH SCOTT FROST ON OHIO STATE: “THEY’RE A LOT BETTER FOOTBALL TEAM THAN THEY WERE A YEAR AGO”

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Nebraska head coach Scott Frost was complimentary of Ohio State all week leading up to Saturday night's game, and he had a similar gracious tune following the Buckeyes' 48-7 lopsided win over the Huskers.

Frost acknowledged Ohio State's recent dominance and suggested that this season's team is "a lot better" than the 2018 squad which beat Nebraska by just five points in Ohio Stadium last season.

"I give a ton of credit to them and their coaching staff because they’re a lot better football team than they were a year ago," Frost said. "Both teams are two of the blue blood, great programs in the history of college football, but those guys have been on top lately, and that’s where we’re trying to get and where we’re going to get.

"We’re just not there right now, and we have a lot of work to do to make sure that happens."

Though he knew Ohio State dominated every aspect of the game, Frost saw turnovers as a primary reason for the lopsided loss.

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...etter-football-team-than-they-were-a-year-ago
but what about JT's field vision as a passer 3 years ago? Did Scott consider that?
Defense needs a new coordinator. Never been enamored with Chinander.
Ms Chinander Bong?
 
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I wouldn't go so far as to say "suck", but it depends on your definition. Floor is 7-5, imho. 8-4 or 9-3 would not surprise me.

They'll be doing good if they can go better than .500 through Minnesota, Purdue, Indiana, and Maryland.
I predict Northwestern rebounds while Corn takes the virtually guaranteed post-Ohio-State loss. Wisconsin will rape them like they do every year. And probably Iowa after that.
5 wins is their middle point.
 
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2. Scott Frost is the Harbaugh of the West: a résumé with little real substance behind it. Frost will live off his one dubious accomplishment - a 13-0 season at some mid-major program - for several years, and he'll get several more for being a local Husker hero, but so far he has shown nothing that would place him anywhere near the coaching elite.

Picking anyone but Wisconsin to win the West is as foolish as picking anyone but Ohio State to win the East. You'll be right 1 year out of 4... but you'll mostly be wrong.
That said...to be fair, it's year 2 for Frost. But it does look like 3rd straight year they will not make bowl season. I do think Bo Pellini is their new ceiling, Nebraska's Glen Mason... and Frost should be able to hit that, but we'll see.

There were also reasons to think Corn turned a corner in the back stretch last year... as they finished 3-2 in-conference, with close losses to us and Iowa, convincing wins over the teams they should beat (Minny and UI), and a hard fought win against Sparty. That's the kind of performance over a season that would get them a respectable 9 wins and probably in Top25 off name recognition.

But journalists picking them to win division was silly.

... and that's now swiftly down the toilet after losing to CU again. Illinois is their level and no reason to think they won't struggle for every Conference game on the schedule.

Their defense is swiss cheese, and Martinez is the typical unpredictable dual threat with flashes of brilliance countered with periods of complete ineptitude.
 
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