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BuckWrestler141

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I attempted a search and failed; although I'm sure this thread exists. I just finished my undergrad last weekend, and have a job lined up that I haven't accepted (it's only 31K). During my graduation dinner, I was talking up Ohio State like usual and my mother was like 'you should just go there for grad school'. So I told her, hey if you're buying I'm going.' She told me to look into the costs and such.

1. I'm left torn between going to Ohio State for grad school, probably in administration or taking a fairly low paid teaching job for a district that doesn't even have a wrestling team. Which would you pick, if you can get someone to pay for your grad school is it worth doing right after college.

2. How difficult of a selection process would it be to land some TA position and receive the schooling for free without the use of my parents money?
 
I went straight to grad from undergrad mainly because I knew I could not get the job I wanted with only a BA. Also, I was still in the mindset of studying and used to being poor so I figured I might as well do it for another two years.

I cannot tell you about the school of education, but in my program TA's and fellowships were very competitive. I could have had a TA and decided to do an internship outside of the school to make myself more marketable upon graduation. I was one of a handful of students to have a job immediately after graduation.

Don't most states exempt teachers from continuing ed if you have a master's? I believe that is how it works in michigan.

Do the usual: write a list of pros and cons and where you want to be in 2, 5, 10 and more years. Figure which route will get you to that goal. If all else fails, toss a coin. :wink2:
 
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BuckWrestler141 said:
I attempted a search and failed; although I'm sure this thread exists. I just finished my undergrad last weekend, and have a job lined up that I haven't accepted (it's only 31K). During my graduation dinner, I was talking up Ohio State like usual and my mother was like 'you should just go there for grad school'. So I told her, hey if you're buying I'm going.' She told me to look into the costs and such.

1. I'm left torn between going to Ohio State for grad school, probably in administration or taking a fairly low paid teaching job for a district that doesn't even have a wrestling team. Which would you pick, if you can get someone to pay for your grad school is it worth doing right after college.

2. How difficult of a selection process would it be to land some TA position and receive the schooling for free without the use of my parents money?
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Couple of thoughts. As far as whether to go straight into grad school that depends a little bit on your own personal inclinations and a lot on the program that you're thinking of. An MBA program, for example, places a high value on a few years of experience before coming back for grad school. A Ph.D track position in a top humanities or sciences program generally wants you to move straight into grad school without missing a beat.

As far as TA positions go, that also depends on the school. Where I went to grad school masters level students were not allowed to TA--only doctoral candidates.

For all of these questions, your best source of info will be your undergrad advisor. He/she should have a good idea of your strength as a candidate as well as the in's and out's and what-have-you's about your specific field.
 
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Thanks for the advice, I'll most likely take the job.
Although a part of me is still depressed that I never attended the Ohio State University and can't help but wonder if it would be moronic to turn down a free masters program.
 
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Keep looking for the job you want...If you are looking for a job in PA or OH, good luck. My district has interviewed 20+ prospects from Ohio alone in the past month. Most of the 2006 BGSU graduating class has interviewed here. If money is a major concern for you, go into administration and give up the coaching.
 
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How did you get a job in education without getting a Master's already? From what I read the teacher's market is pretty bad right now. Waiting a couple years might not be a bad idea, especially if you're not footing the bill.
 
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CleveBucks said:
How did you get a job in education without getting a Master's already? From what I read the teacher's market is pretty bad right now. Waiting a couple years might not be a bad idea, especially if you're not footing the bill.
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It's not that much of a disadvantage to not have my master's yet for teaching in Illinois. Masters with teaching experience is preferred, although districts tend to avoid giving out jobs to teachers with masters and no experience; as they are a more expensive risk. Having coached a successful junior high program + being an academic all-american have probably been the two marks that have made my search a little easier then some of my classmates.

The most common route in Illinois is to take a job straight out of college and take night/summer classes and work your way up to your Masters in about 4 years.

I'm not sure about Ohio, but in Illinois the teachers market is pretty good, last year it was AMAZING because of the change in the law towards retirement causing a record number of teachers to retire out of fear they wouldn't be able to buy out their final years for retirement.

OSUGrad - I'd rather coach in the right type of community then make a lot of money, so the plans were to slowly work my way towards administration simply to keep options available for later. 20 is a lot of interviews; how many of the 20 interviews did you sit in on? I interviewed at 6 schools that all interviewed over or roughly 20 people, 4 of which I was called in for a second interview, failed 3 of the 4 second interviews, very humbling and time consuming process. I know that both places I student taught at, pulled in over 800 applications a piece.
 
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BuckWrestler141 said:
OSUGrad - I'd rather coach in the right type of community then make a lot of money, so the plans were to slowly work my way towards administration simply to keep options available for later. 20 is a lot of interviews; how many of the 20 interviews did you sit in on? I interviewed at 6 schools that all interviewed over or roughly 20 people, 4 of which I was called in for a second interview, failed 3 of the 4 second interviews, very humbling and time consuming process. I know that both places I student taught at, pulled in over 800 applications a piece.
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I didn't sit in on any interviews...the community approach is a good idea. Find the kind of kid you want to work with and go from there. I may go back for my administrative degree but right now I have a hard time picturing myself behind a desk for extended periods of time.
 
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FWIW, I hung out for two years at tOSU after undergrad on a PhD fellowship and I wouldn't trade that time for anything. The fellowship was based primarily on GRE scores (that was 13 years ago and I have no idea what the standards are now). I had my tuition paid and a stipend and had a blast teaching and hanging out. I'd urge anyone to consider such an opportunity at tOSU, if it exists, and to make the most of the time that you're there.
 
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