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Game Thread Ohio State at Penn State, 10/22/16, 8:00pm ET ABC/WatchESPN

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After Beaver Avenue riot, police say several arrests are pending

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A crowd of approximately 5,000 to 10,000 college-aged men and women flocked to the 200 block of Beaver Avenue following Penn State’s 24-21 victory over Ohio State early Sunday morning.

While State College Police issued a number of citations during the riot, they said no one was taken into custody during the night. Rather, the majority of offenders will be receiving summons or fines in the mail related to criminal mischief.

Police said the difference between those receiving citations and those facing misdemeanor charges, is that the people facing charges were seen as “contributing to the ongoing disturbance.”
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One male attempted to light a couch on fire, while another was caught lighting a chair on fire — both will be receiving summons in the mail. As for the male who tore down the stop sign at Beaver Ave. and Locust Lane, he faces misdemeanor charges for disorderly conduct.

Entire article: http://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/crime_courts/article_9133c44e-9938-11e6-8445-fffe201625d2.html

Burn those couches!!!!

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Ok, I'm over this one. One thing this team is missing that a Naty contender needs is..... KILLER INSTINCT!!! Don't go into a game too survive, go into the game to destroy. We have the weapons but not the attitude. Hope this loss gets the killer instinct in the staff and team.
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
I can't say I have unequivocal confidence any more...
that game was unnerving.. especially after the last two
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Just curious, but what did you have unequivocal confidence of before? Just my IMO, but before the season I expected 2 losses. After Oklahoma I expected one loss. After this, I'm back to 2 losses, but considering the youth on this team and all the relatively new faces in staff, it always seemed like this was going to be a year with a bump or two.
 
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One thing that is interesting when comparing our offense against PSU and our loss against Va Tech, was the absolute over-dependence on deep shots while all together neglecting the flare pass against the Hokies. The following week against Kent State we came out and explicitly worked on getting the ball to our RB's out of the backfield. Against VT it was open all night, and even though we had guys in position to make that play, it just wasn't a focus. Barrett never even looked to put the ball on the edge vs having a singular focus down the field.

Progressions are a major issue in our offense. There are 1 maybe 2 reads and then it's a breakdown. And that's just the way Meyer runs his offenses for better or worse. Tebow was the same exact way as well. Having 5 wideouts on the field is largely window dressing and just spacing to exploit where they want the ball to go. They will identify play calling tendencies and mix it up better going forward....

Against PSU we got the RB flare passes consistently which in turn should open the middle field up. But our execution on deep routes (which we ran way too few of if for no other reason to back the safeties up a bit) is the exact opposite of what happened against Va Tech.

I'd like to see a better balance between hitting our RB's in passing game, and keeping defenses honest with deep shots. I believe you'll see a huge focus on deep routes next week as we look to not only get our passing game on track, but start going against own tendencies (self scouting). The loss to the Hokies was the best thing that happened to OSU that year because our offense became better able to exploit weaknesses in over aggressive defenses. Hopefully this loss has the same effect...
 
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Sorry Herbie, but this is not how legal pass defense works:



The defender isn't making some sort of incidental contact while he makes a play for the ball, it's a straight-up tomahawk chop to Clark's arm - and he doesn't even pretend to turn and look for the ball!
 
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Well I guess BayBuck's clip should put an end to PSU fan's constant complaint of B1G officiating bias against them :-)

In any event, disappointing loss for certain. While I remained optimistic, I was fearful that the loss of talent would cost us a game or 2 this season. Didn't see it coming at Happy Valley though. In fact, I should say that it's the loss of experience that worried me more than talent. After reading thru a good bit of the post game comments, I would simply say ... take a deep breath ... expect another game or 2 (win or lose) where the Bucks don't seem to be of championship caliber. If we are able to navigate the remaining schedule and get to the playoffs ... I fear many here will have to "endure" another season of a position coach you don't care for, or a player that isn't "good enough" for our needs.

Frankly, to pull off an undefeated run this year would have been amazing beyond belief. Not that I don't think the talent is there, but we lack practical experience. Don't care how good a coach you are, or how talented you are as a player, experience is always earned the hard way. Last years roster (2015 team) started with 79 total "letter winner years". Meaning the team accumulated that many varsity letters in their time at Ohio State before the season started. This year's team (2016) had 61 varsity letters to start the season. That's almost 25% less on field experience.

The senior class, the folks you lean on when Camp Randall is "jumping" or Happy Valley is "pom-pom pumping", are far less experienced too. The entire senior class of 2015 (regular SR, gray shirt, 5th year or 6th year) accounted for 33 varsity letters. This years class comes to the table with 17 ... 3 of those belong to the punter and kicker. Almost half the real, in-game experience gone. So these team leaders, if they were good enough, would have in-game experience at Happy Valley from their sophomore year. Juniors would have had to see the field as Freshmen to have any on-field experience. Please don't mis-interpret my sentiment either. Absolutely love the senior class. There is just so much less experience for the underclassmen to draw from.

Finally, the early departures for the NFL. 14 varsity letter years gone ... players that could have returned. Again, all my best to them and a great big thank you for the tremendous play at OSU. Just trying to point out WHY going undefeated is so hard and how important real experience is to a team.

Why is the experience so important? Our Bucks just found out … some players and probably some of the staff too. You don’t know what you don’t know. You hear the accolades, you’re highly rated, you (for the most part) comfortably and methodically won all your games. You find yourself up 21-7 in the 4th quarter and you figure … oh shit, what just happened?

In a strange way this could be a blessing for our young team. It’s very difficult to really identify the flaws and work to correct them when you’re having success despite them. Hard to be critical of teammates and yourself until your forced to face a failure and accept that it’s yours to own. So what are we left with?

The response. It’s always the response. Go Bucks!

"Defeats are the things that make men out of you." - WWH
 
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